is the very old re global, know the intertwining of money and politics campaigner andrew fine state and photographer shock you do on, on active is on the crisis in concert. what is happening today is happening on our watch and years from now. they will be people asking, how did you let it happen? studio will be on the scripted part one on, on disease or the ties between greece and israel have strengthened and recently is spot a long history of supporting the palestinian cause. a relationship fuels in part by a share mistrust of another regional power to a kid. but in light of israel's war and. busy greece is now forced to play the role of critical friend was the same time of asking a full blown and confrontation with his old address re. i'm correct. join me need falk over the next. how often how i squeeze this for administer. your go square for

treatise talks to i, which is in the go square, patrice as welcome to talk to l, just so pleasant. a no, no, thank you for the invitation. name was dying of the precipice of a potential, full blown is rarely invasion of rough and southern gaza, causing huge concerns about the implications on the should be in this area and situation that the civilian population that so much so that even the united states, the storage i live as well as urged israel to show restraint as another ally of israel. what conversations are you having with your is there a counterpart specifically about rough or and the conflicts when you're in the library? i thing you will have to be very honest, very open, very from instance here. so our main point is the initials of invasion to rafa should be avoided and prevented at the moment. so there is a huge combination of the population in the roughly it's

a very overcrowded region. and any sort of invasion could close that dramatic humanitarian crisis, which we needs to avoid. so our advice is that these should be prevented by any possible means. what i really want to say is that at this moment, we're just not the very crucial johnstone, it's a difficult situation that we're encountering because of the, of a lot of on their own speech. feet spillover effects in the region, we have the situation 11 under the situation in syria, in the red sea. obviously we had things eventually they'd, on both of these very moments or pot. this needs to have a very high level of uh, set for say, talking about surface tray and this must be an incredibly difficult diplomatic position. the grease has been put in recently to quotes, permanent security echo. so let's, let's talk is back in november, said of israel, a quote, sometimes friends have to speak hard truths to friends that was 5 months ago. has

this sort of been listening to any of those truths? what i have to say is that in this position, you have to be very open, but you have to be a room based a lot. yeah, i think and from the very 1st day we had the opportunity to be very open but also very principals in our policy. we didn't take any side. what we said was that we need to the social shapes. the 3rd is the thoughts, the how most organization from the promising and people we said that the is ryan, is had the rights to defend themselves. but we think the boundaries of humanitarian law and all their all international law. we say it's costly, this should not be kept because this is the time it gets any sorts of international law. choosing people less human suits. and what we also said was that we need to minimize to the maximum, the civilian losses. obviously all of these,

we're not sure, but the, the international community has these lots of goods. the point here is it needs that we have to be as pressing as possible in order to implement the eventually the, the hold of the facilities at the moment. what we're claiming for is that on the students' needs to believe that there is a credible way out. and this is why we're fully supporting the 2 state solution ways, according to their distribution distribution shop there. i think we've come from of the united nations. we used your ocean, that mazda a competency to of the other side, state. and of course, with the pre, 1967 borders. this thing is now that the whole community, the whole international community, next to exercise the maximum pressure upon the parties in order to reach an agreement that they really appreciate. what cutoffs and egypt and other art up states are doing. and the efforts of the european union,

how convinced all those goals, partners, our states? i mean, obviously you were here in the region to speak to, to permanent figures. how convinced all those partners to you in the middle east and further feel that you are willing to push israel as far as you possibly can on this at the moment? is there a reason? i think a consensus within the european union partners that we need to have an immediate cease fire and we needs to further develop our humanitarian needs towards palestine . there is a consensus on uh, on this point and i don't think there is um, any divergence. what we need to do is to find the actual modes in order to exercise further pressure on the part these. and i'm speaking both for the mouse and uh for each right. um i seen each of us with some photos at the moment. news that we joined efforts because there are a lot of funding left which taking place the, the uh, there is the are we need to do. there is

a good opinion initiatives or as the american and you said, we didn't have to actually combine all of those part on the left for us in order to have a single efforts to be more effective and meaningful. i wonder if we kind of focused on that european initiative because speaking of the harvard center for your opinion studies last year, you said that quote, global governance needs to be based on principles, not just international standards of law, but coherent and consistent policy on a matter of consistent policy, the use dressing was speech, has greece being consistent in defending international, more and gaza. as you add the eu has been when it comes to the war and ukraine and russia's invasion. i take that to imply that we have dealt with standards, but the thing is that when it comes to breeze, we have a very strong principles for the policy. we have exactly the same standards when it comes to me, the least or to ukraine or to have such a hard and not freak out. any other sort of conflict. they both on thing is here

that we fully abide by international law. we fully abide by you the rules and more of a sofa, uh, international humanitarian law. and we have comments, thunder. it's the thing is, 1st that we need to actually condense any sort of aggression and the trustees that there is a lot of aggression coming from various a sort of stadium knocks us. secondly, what we need to stretch either is the human dignity is up to the top of our priority. again, i have to serve as a point that we cannot accept the loss of civilian people, but at the same time, we cannot accept in any way that keeping costs of disease or practice in order to get the leverage to have uh, introduction of benefits. what i'm saying is that we apply on international law standards. we have to be stronger, but also we have to be as pressing as possible. what we really like is the implementation of, of our basic beliefs,

because because the truth is the name that's international law in these respects and the international associates, we actually picture when it comes to me please, but also to ukraine cost fades in my eyes, there is not case of doubles thunder and sniff. um, what i have to say is, is that we are totally against any sort of aggression. so there is no aggressions that could be tolerable only when someone defense that it's uh ordered. when it comes with defense of state authority and integrity, it's silver in 3. when it's about the 2030 in law, only, then we have a principal policy. and they have to say that when it comes to they get appear in union. and especially when it comes to race, i think we have a very strong single stand those policy when it comes to ukraine, when it comes to um, the list from the very 1st time. and we said that there is a rights defense defense for his room about the same time. we cannot accept any sort of disproportionate reaction and according to just jumping in on the

disproportionate reaction that use like the, i mean house, for instance, germany, the powerhouse is economic powerhouse. a viewer has it's born, keeps support for israel over the years with huge amounts of ministry, supports the tickets, right. how about complicated your relations school aspirations for peace in the region? that's not complicated. greece is relationship with by that. um, exactly, because we have a very principles policy when it comes to the me listening. if we are able to talk to all interested parties up to this very moment, we can speak to the radio affiliate officials as well to the from the senior officials. we speak to uh, jordan, we speak to lebanon, we speak to egypt, we speak to obviously, to our uh, gulf partners. we speak to all parties here. we have us, uh, shopped in, so it should germany be showing with strange. i think that was the question. i'm trying to, i was just remodel view as we're talking when it comes to jim support for his rep,

billions of dollars in naval vessels. we're looking at some marines and vehicles. explosive device is not to mention tank, an aircraft pause. what does it mean to you? the e u. made weapons are being used in this theater of war in gaza with such a devastating consequences. no guns should be used in an offensive way. that's how did you, uh, guns are produced in order to prevent any sort of course the booth is in order to be used as a defensive mechanism. and in order to prevent the international security, many human rights groups say, those weapons being used in goals are to indiscriminately and disproportionate be killed. do you believe israel's war and gaza is indiscriminate to? i've seen that there has been a, a disproportionate defense here. i think that the best tool is huge is, should not have happened, but obviously when, when uh, the other party, you know,

who is using people last few months since it's very difficult to operate any sort of defense. on the other hand, what i'm saying is that we should prevent any sort of of, uh, cvd and mostly is what i'm suggesting is that by fueling the conflict by continuing this on hindu, unrestricted flow of weapon, re, i'm a form, a permanent e u member states surely is not going to lead to peace to pull the right lever in order to urge israel to step away from its current trajectory would surely mean doing something more affirmative. the clearly we need to do so the things of these of the is run. we need to be more pressing. we have discussed these during our, for the 1st comments in the, in luxembourg. and i think we would find ways to, to be more pressing the forthcoming for failure for right now, for a comes in, in,

in process square. we're going to invite the is ready for administer, and we're going to hear how the situation is from cesar point. the truth is, i, i think that there is a, you know, limited and our strengths. this point there's going to unlimited amount of the european union partners. thought this very moment, the war needs to stop or we should allow further space for diplomacy to prevent. and we needs to provide a vision to the front of thing and people swear to the states solution. in april 2021 is running grease. you signed your biggest defense procurement deal to you. i mean, the deal includes this $1650000000.00 contract to train the greek air force. 5 is where the defense contracts are really bid systems as over a 22 year period. that's a serious commitment between greece and israel. well, you will government be reviewing those military ties in light of what we're seeing in the, in the middle east, the israeli oregon. and to be honest, new, i don't think it's the time to actually to revisit our contracts in our strategic

partnerships. i think the moment is here to 2 minutes to 3 minutes what message does not send in terms of your commitment to piece. and the reason the commitment to peace is our principal auto duty to um, uh, to claim for, for a ceasefire to claim for fed that remaining 30 need to be a sincere mediation was because the truth is not do that uh, come through is like risk is more useful, never the same was cathartic because we aren't able to talk to both parties. nope. and countries come talk to both countries. and this is the outcome of our route based policy. obviously we, let's start digit partnership with caesar, and we'll call them carpet. there's a nice thing, it is important to have so that the dick alliances in uh, in the region. but these cars not prevented us from being very strong and very thoughtful with these. right. and how would you explain the growing closeness between greece and israel, and recent years off to rule previous greek governments?

i think it's fair to say have been very sympathetic to the posting cause i mean the back of 1982. it was greek ships that was sent to bring the p l. o leader. yes, a higher fats to athens. what's happened over the years? nothing. we still have a excellent relationship with the big states and especially with the palestinian authority from the very 1st time what we said was that we should prevent any sort of the legend, my thirty's ation awful. for the 1st thing in the 421 of the major problems now is that we do not have a credible interrupt from the public opinion side. because in the course of the will, there has been a demoralization of the policy and i'll forward it to you from the very 1st day we said that we would like to see the policy you know, forwarded to being a credible discuss once we think that the palestinian authority represents the policy in young people. and this is why i myself visited my line and i hosted the

for the minnesota and i have 2 laptops with the high level of the political leadership in palestine. we have an excellent relationship. we fully support them. we have provided you with some extra money tied in support and we intend to be again, i am saying this, we intend to be very honest with the tours. in this total mind, i ask about the garden closeness between greece and israel because the p is too many out of this looking in from the inside. that's that relationship is based upon a shed, mistrust off to you and correct. it's no secret. of course, he remained at all just over the territory of the status of cyprus. the list goes on. so 1st of all, i'd like to say that agrees voltage, things say well are all for for the cease fire and they will the further they for many, $30.00 and $8.00 during the, during how somebody or for, for the united nations. and we've produced together, we produce with the allies, the resolution to stop facilities and provide further humanitarian aid. now,

when it comes to international politics, i have to tend to go very frankly, needs that we do not follow any sort of transaction. i'm going to say what we imply is that we have some joint interest with is really because we, we go against 2 key. this is not the case. i have to tell you this on 2 grounds. first, as a matter of principle, because what we do has nothing to do with getting any collateral benefits. from my 1st day in the for the ministry, i said that i would follow it very well, base policy, a very principal policy, and i have for the abided by this. so i do not expect to have any gains from my country's policy. the 2nd, the thing is that, that now we are in the state of improving our relationship with duty. we have done that lots of significant steps in order to meet together with the insurance. the

truth is that in the last year we have made it to actually reduce tension in the broad the region. we haven't made it to develop a positive agenda, never, never less turkey. it has continually accused you of minutes rising. the june present, the other ones where it is not happening. so when we have to say that, uh, the uh, restrict key relationship is based on international law. it's not something that is determined by the voluntary is to do the venue of, of those states or international law explicitly proclaims that uh, the, the, the islands, the g and the islands belong to greece. there is a line of i lets um that uh, protects it fully protected by international law. reese is exercising the full legitimate provides to defense the island central defense of the country. it's obviously when you have a huge army just by crossing them in a couple of minds,

these funds, you need to be very well prepared. having said that, i need to say that to we are working for peace and i think we have strong explicit evidence that we uh, 150 to be close to us. indeed, our prime minister mutual talk is who's going to run cut on the 13th of may, we're going to have a very productive bought dialogue. this is coming in after months of full spreads, and they're the ones visit to athens on the side of this. on the 7th of december, last year, we signed and varying points on the boat from, from the point of view of the symbolic of nature as well. as from the practical viewpoints and political probation indicating good for neighbor realizations and friendly supplemental funds for you. if you could definitely cool this in your eyes . very much our, our approach mom. but still as i mentioned, underlying tensions remain when a recent days took. you describe the decision to designate parts of the gmc on iron . you can see as greek nature pox. they say you'll simply exporting issues to push

your geo political agenda, namely to assert control over the entire region. it's all cases during that. no, because as i said, we're not doing any transaction, i'm totally fixed the soft with what we're doing it just to preserves our environments and in nature's environments. last week we had the very successful reunion. the 9 please. we have the nines, our ocean conference, it's a huge conference about the preservation of both as an ocean worldwide. we have $125.00 delegations from around the world. it was very important. catherine, we had about 400 commitments amounting to about 11000000000 euros bureau is about among our commitments as well as the establishment of dropbox in greece. running the on the into on, in the a gmc, what we're saying is that the most bach, we'd be devoid of insurance of finance. and actually they show the note that exactly to preserve the sustainability of the water environments in that age. and

this is clearly within the shop runs and children, right? so for a race that has all those get being dom up. so please allow me to consider that there was another reaction concerning this declaration from, from us. but we have here to agree on something which is important when it comes to environment of sustainability. we cannot to jump on the text. environmental sustainability is a need for they can monitor if these are global challenge and to take some, some brave decisions. and we're going to make those rate is in the interest of smoothing tension. so easing tensions with your large, historical neighbour. of course, you've had many tension so many years. would it be prudent to, would use your military presence in the likes of the island of costs, for instance, according to, to k, a. m. you know, under the 1947 peace treaty, there shouldn't be any greek troops there in the 1st place. not in my eyes,

this is a thought on this freedom of the truth is it allows, you know, i'm, i'm on that lawyer and then they're making, they can read, treat this the trophies that we preserve the necessary military in order to defend ourselves. and i think there is not a single person that would consume the lease without any sort of, uh, offense investigations against the to with you. um we are relatively small nation, but um, you know, that we have to defend ourselves. we have to exercise a fully fledged policy or for, for a national defense. and this is what we're going to do in an idea of words. i would say that obviously we would need to have in the army. but given the fact that there is an army side on the nose from various neighborhoods, i think that it's necessary to have a strong, okay, and just have an army also spend perhaps more than any of the country on many,

many countries. i mean, back in 2022, greece was spending more in defense than any other country as a portion of g d p. well, those are the 2 percent special required as a, as a native member in your opinion, continued to be money well spent given recent economic tumble increase. of course the country is recovering well, but never the less is this money well spent fuel focus? there are 2 questions here, whether we're doing when and whether we should do any nation, i'm the different spending. so i wouldn't take a lot to, to start with. what i suggest is yes or having a national defense expenditure, which is above the average. and i have to tell you that this is a totally explicable if someone reach history. unfortunately, we're not the luxembourg, and we're not living in a very peaceful neighborhood. and the trustees that we have to be very well

prepared, crease is a country with the greatest seesaw in europe. we have a very loud c, so we have to defend our islands. we have to defend our region. so obviously we need to do some addition. i'm not strong defense spending of whether this is well deserved. i will tell you that this is a democratic summons if the electron says that it's money well spent, they need these website and then these governments has for the 2nd consecutive time, a huge extra victory over 41 percent of the electorate have voted in favor of our program, so i will tell you that there is a total respects of our program now on the other side of the core and i would say so the flux that's research doing extremely well in the economic sector, allow us to just invest not only obviously, a national defense, but don't need another aspect and associates the state and also in investments.

greece is expected to have the growth rate of 3 percent next in these kind of year 2024 was bigger ego, but it's going to be 0.8. so you can see that we have a 3 time, a greater duty fees, and bruce is on other states. so we are allowed to do some spending. and indeed the maximum of our spending close to social needs and investments. what, what does it, what does it mean to you? to no longer be perceived as the economic sick mind of your, to this a good sort of self confidence to start with that process that we had the huge start buildings. we have the 10 years of full file stated the policies we have, we had we, we were very close to actually get out of the google p. and you know, because of our fiscal situation. um and we have to go through a series of, of a very unfortunate incidence, including the persistence of population we increase population gathering,

a very difficult situation. one step away from the european union. we model survive . the nice thing breaks people's folds up and high level of maturity too. and when it came to the crucial 2019 elections, the people voted for the government that would bring box res into normality and bring back pres into the european family. and now were very proud to say that we have a significantly reduced dial depths that we have significantly increase our 2 to be and we have a book, a move on. we have a very sustainable environment for investments. we have a 35 percent increase on the exports and we have a 30 percent increase on direct for any investments. and i'm probably going to show you that some can know some companies have come to reason the last 5 years, including the pfizer will be almost in meta the only invest in

greece because they think that rese provides a very strongly foundation for investments. and i would like to actually quoting for through your um, trying them to potential investors to check out the grease because this is going to be the economic meet our goal in terms of investments for the future. probably briefly as a last question, i want to put this to you because you seem very, very aware of the need for diplomacy. the need to ease tensions that as far as a difficult time. how optimistic all you of the europe that we know remaining stable that we have a problem is. and the problem is that, um, there is unusual for, for the way we take decisions with decision making. mechanisms and international organizations seems to be quite obsolete at the moment. what happened was, in the afternoon of the 2nd world war, we had an international id not where we have to get together. but

we had to develop also a national voyage with international organizations. and that led to the victor rights policy and the security council of the united nations and choose a european union. victor right? possibly has been a huge snag in order to gets to where to adoption of decision. and i think this is going to be the problem for the years to come. the fact that we have in a, an international decision making quits, prohibits the states are international uh, organization from taking decisions that are resolved. so we ended at cookchildrens russian and we have 3 visits that way we take decisions and above all, we have to put the, the, the global above the, the states we have to seeing more of the future. we have to think more about the generations to come. we have to sing about share challenges such as the climate

crisis, the food and security. and we have to think about the children of, of, on your guys' kind of for treat this. thank you for talking to how just if people have funding. thank you so much. i in depth analysis of the days headlines that is the failure to free the captive still being held by him. i asked how difficult a moment to space for 5 minutes with nothing yahoo is trying to stay in definitely is 5 minutes to know that to stay possibly out of j. frank assessments, how to relations decline between media and the united states of america. the crux of the matter is new jersey choice of ministry partners, and specifically russia inside story. on al jazeera cities with santa, when he's one of the world's most expensive tibits in the black box, and try his best and nice and foreign. one on one asian investigates the spot to

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