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cnn newsroom. hi everyone. i'm just dean in washington and we begin with breaking new cnn, his warned the biden administration has paused a shipment all of us made ammunition to israel it appears to be the first time the us has stumped a weapon shipment to the israeli military since the october 7 hamas attacks and it comes amid growing tensions between the us and israel over the war in gaza. and during high-stakes negotiations to reach a potential ceasefire and hostage deal with let's get right over to cnn's priscilla alvarez, who's here with us percival, what more are you learning about all this? >> well, a source, it could not disclosed why the decision was made to pause this particular shipment. but two important points here, it is not linked to what is believed to israel's potential ground invasion of rafah. that's in the southern gaza strip were more than 1 million filling in palestinians have been sheltering and has been a concern for the us if israel were to move in and continue

that operation, or at least start at the second point that the source made is that it is not affecting other shipments that's to say that this is a shipment that was paused is unclear why. but the the expectation here is that other eye munition shipments will continue to israel. now, when i asked the white house about this national security council spokesperson gave me a statement that says the following quote, the united states has searched billions of dollars in security assistance to israel since the october 7 attacks. pass the largest ever supplemental appropriation for emergency assistance to israel led an unprecedented coalition to defend it. israel, against iranian attacks and will continue to do what is necessary to ensure israel can defend itself from the threats if phases. so from the statement, you can tell us officials maintained no policy change with israel. this pause and shipment does not signal that there will be a policy change. and we should note that that appropriations the statement refers to is that $26 billion at the us sent to israel to help with israel, hamas conflict. so while we

don't know all the details here, it is clear that the us is not changing its position in as far as we know, it is not linked to that potential rafah operation. they're concerned about. and while this is going on, there are these ongoing talks that have been happening in cairo to try to reach a ceasefire fire deal, a hostage deal that we know the biden administration would very much like to see you that's exactly right. and this deal would include that temporary ceasefire in exchange for hostages. of course, the administration, the biden administration has come under fire for that ceasefire to happen and we are seeing movement over the weekend. the cia director is in the middle east. he's going to stay in doha a continuation of those talks oftentimes he is deployed in intensive moments and he is part of this multi-party discussion that's happening with israel, hamas qatar, and egypt. so the fact that he is there is significant, but of course, these hostage talks are consistently fluids, so we don't know when a deal is reached until the very last

minute so of course, the white house has kept this as a top priority for them. they have continued to have these conversations. the president himself speaking with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu last weekend so all of this clearly an intensive phase with a cia director saying in the region. but of course unclear when or if they reach that deal. all right. priscilla alvarez with the very latest there. thanks so much for that reporting and joining us now, former state department middle east negotiator and senior fellow at the carnegie dominant aaron david miller also with us is cnn at military analysts, retired lieutenant general mark hertling. great to have you both here. aaron, first, i want to start with you and get your reaction to the brain thinking news that priscilla was just telling us about the vitamin a striation pausing this ammunition ammunition shipment to israel. what do you make of that it's really hard to read. >> it's hard to imagine that slow walking because that's what it is if it's anything slow walking one shipment of ammunition represents a fundamental change or perhaps

even a major signal that the biden administration believes it can actually do this and intended to do more unless the israelis comply with what the administration wants on any number of issues in march abc news reported that israeli officials, again raise the issue of the administration slow walking ammunition and the john kirby's response was essentially it's not going to comment on the timeline if munitions so hard to unpack, but i think you're going to stretch went to great lengths basically to try to reassure this is not as priscilla said, it's not represent represent a major policy shift. >> yeah, that's certainly the external message they're trying to communicate here. but mark from a military perspective, how do you react to this news? >> well, i see partly the same way or in dust, but i think it's also a signal. it's more than a slow walk to their has been repeated comments and repeated state department cia

officials trying to message the back that the biden administration is not happy with the way hey, the netanyahu government is conducting this conflict, especially the efforts of humanitarian aid. so it could be a signal saying, we can do this, even though it was priscilla mentioned that they went to great lengths to say that this is not having to do with potential operations and rapa i personally think it is because i think we are given the biden administration has given the warning on multiple occasions. this is something saying, you can't conduct operations that kill innocent citizens. and that's what the what this is in my view. >> yeah. >> and as we zoom out and just look at the broader picture right now, we have these negotiations that are ongoing and then we have this impending incursion into rafah. and now we have this breaking news as well. erin, i want to talk with you about the negotiations part of that. but on the deal, you

have such history and being in these rooms and understanding all of the dynamics that are at play what is your sense of the direction of these current talks? let's that are ongoing you know, just a good negotiation succeed when there's urgency, when they're sufficient amounts of pain on one hand accompanied by sufficient amounts of gain on the other. and as i look at this and i look at the netanyahu government's motives, at least the prime minister's and hamas's motives. >> i don't see either of them in a hurry they both have to be pushed because i think they both understand that they preferred not to see this deal take place they're fundamentally different objectives. i think that the two sides have been remember the key palestinian decision-maker is making decisions ensconced in a tunnel somewhere meters below raffa khan newness, or maybe even in sinai together with hostages so it's a curious way, way to

negotiate defective bill burns is on his way to see the prime minister will be there on monday, i think is a good sign that fact, these there's still a possibility of closing this. but under these circumstances, really hard to imagine that both parties really want this and are prepared to pay the political price and costs for it. >> and then we're unsure, apparently, the cia director is plans are fluid, but he is remaining in the region. i remember you saying last week that once he got there that that was a signal that we should see that as things are serious, but it will see what can kind of come, come out of this and mark in terms of the rafah going into rafah, benjamin netanyahu has said that they want to go in whether or not there is a deal in place. regardless of if there is a deal in place, and the defense minister says troops that should expect intense action in rafah, are there it is one of the stickiest sticking point it's in these negotiations, of course, hamas wants the war should come to an end israel once a pause and

wants to go into rafah, the us has said again and again that it wants to see a plan that's going to protect if these over 1 million civilians that are there in that area. but sources have told cnn that they have swelled, they've seen some plans, nothing that the administration considers an executable plan so what does the us do with the raffa situation? what will israel likely due i'm going to piggyback on what aaron said because i think it's an important point in terms of the negotiation and how it affects of potential operation in rafah mr. netanyahu said from the very beginning that he wants to destroy hamas. >> the final objective is in rafah, because that's where the hamas headquarters are, where they have basically withdrawn two and continue to hold those areas. if he does not go into rafah, he will not be able to continue the efforts against hamas. the second thing is hamas wants him once netanyahu and the israeli defense forces to go into rafah because it

will continue the percent of israel on the world stage. and it caused them to increasingly be a pariah to include with their best friend, the united states has president biden has said, we want to see a plan and one hasn't been delivered yet so because of the breakdown in the communication over the hostages released, i think we're going to see the potential israeli operations sooner rather than later. i'm actually quite surprised. it hasn't happened in rafah yet from a military perspective, they are ready to do it. and i think they will do it, especially since the talks had broken down and hamas has basically played them once again saying that they would release some hostages and no hostages had been released. just purely from a military perspective, they have to go in aaron, how might that affect these discussions? these conversations that are having raffa as microcosm of this war if you look at it from 10,000

feet, what you see are all the contradictions and all the challenges that this war hi to prosecute a war against the terrorist organization which embeds its assets in and around and under civilian populations he israelis will be bumping against up against the treaty partner egyptians are extremely nervous and in third, the humanitarian situation he, israelis cannot possibly move 1 million point to humans into sanctuaries where they have access to potable water, shelter, medical care, and sanitation quickly. >> if the israelis wanted to do this, they wanted to cooperate with the egyptian than with various ngos, perhaps over a period of weeks and months that could be done, but i don't think that's what's on the prime minister's mind general hotan is absolutely correct. there are four brigades are battalions down there and hamas fighters. >> if mr. netanyahu i'm just going to continue to propagate the myth of total victory. >> he's going to have to destroy the organized structured military structure,

of hamas down there. >> so i think unless there's a deal, i suspect that the israelis will go in and conduct some kind of operation in rafah and mark the un and various other human rights groups have condemned israel's closure of al-jazeera, the television network, the journalistic network inside the country. >> these really communications ministry close their bureau, even see some their equipment. the israeli government has said that they're reporting harmed israel security al-jazeera said, this is a suppression of free press and denied those allegations. what do you think about this move of shutting down al-jazeera first, jessica, we certainly had warning about it because the knesset passed by a vote of 71 to ten on the 1st of april, that they were looking to shut down news agencies and journalists that they didn't feel were favorable to the israeli cause netanyahu has accused al-jazeera being quote, a

mouthpiece of hamas he has done that for quite some time. >> that's not just something that's happened over this weekend so this will only bring more scorn against the israeli government, especially prime minister netanyahu i who the united nations has already condemn this move by saying, it's an affront to journalist and free press everywhere it is one of those kind of things where netanyahu has always had basically bad feelings about al-jazeera. and it is continued to grow oh, is this war has gone on? he feels that they are part of the hamas organization, or at least supporting it the fact that the debate or the discussions in qatar contributed to this might be a factor, but it's interesting that he's pulled the plug today and it also tells me hey, again, i'll go back to the point i made earlier that there is a potential real quick

action about to occur in rafah. >> we will wait and see aaron, david miller, and mark hertling as always, thanks so much for that analysis. >> thank you. quite well it is exactly six months until the election de and a new cnn poll, poll shows just how tight the races between president and biden and former president trump. plus trump is sharpening his attacks, telling a room full of supporters that democrats are running a gestapo administration. i'll talk about it ahead. urine, cnn newsroom a florida man is hospitalized, infected with anthrax. >> tonight. >> this became the bureau's number one crying to solve how really happen with jesse l. martin tonight at nine on cnn to advance the future of golf the pga of america chose t-mobile for business with a 5g powered innovation of the analyzed player performance and expand coaching tools.

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new york and this is cnn tonight. we are exactly six months out from election day and just hours from now, former president donald trump will be back in a new york courtroom for his hush money trial. >> at a donor event at mar-a-lago trump attacks special counsel, jack smith and other attorneys prosecuting him. >> he said this about his democratic opponent, joe biden, quote, these people are running a gestapo administration. it's the only thing they have and it's the only way they're going to win in their opinion president biden for his part, finally addressed growing unrest unfolding on college campuses thursday after remaining largely silent on the issue for about a week-and-a-half. biden now set to give a speech on antisemitism tuesday, holocaust remembrance day, joining us now a cnn political commentator van jones and olivia troy, a former adviser in the trump white house. great to see the both of you. olivia, let's start first with you in the same week that

trump could not, again, bring himself to accept the results of the 2024 election. he's now comparing biden and his administration. to the nazi secret police. >> well, first off, i think that comparison is completely a warrant. i think there should be no room for that and political rhetoric, there's no comparing to what he's referring to. and i would say that having worked in the trump administration, the projection runs deep because i think that when he's talking about things like that it's sort of how he would like to run things and he's already talked about taking revenge on his opponents. he's already talked about taking revenge against those in the media that don't follow his narratives and support him it makes me wonder what happens to people like me who have become critics of hint. because i've his damaging rhetoric and i also think because dangerous rhetoric, that's divisor for the country. and i also think the damage that he's done to the republican brand, there were projection runs, deep, van. we mentioned in an

interview, trump said he would not commit to accepting the results of this election. i want to let everyone listened to how a potential running mate for him, senator tim scott, respondent, when he was pressed on the same issue here's what he said you voted does certified the election results of 2020? >> it's the exact opposite of what you said and did after 2020, why would you want to be able to ticket with someone where they're such a fundamental difference. >> this is an issue that is not an issue. so i'm not going to make it an issue. well said, will you commit to accepting the election results? >> it's of 2024, bottom line at the end of the day the 47th president united states will be first it donald shop. >> and i'm excited to get back to low inflation, low unemployment senator, yes or no? yes or no. will you accept the election results of 2024, no matter who wins? >> that is my statement van that's just not a hard question. >> but apparently it is. if you want to be trump's vice

president yeah, is unfortunately, tim scott is i think one of the truly great people in the republican party in general. >> and he's been there on opportunity zones. it's been around black colleges. he's been there on on some issues and he has a history of standing up to our president trump after charlottesville. another thing. so what you're seeing now is the is the surfboard beginning to deal with the wave pushing people in a direction that makes no sense obviously, you shouldn't even run for office if you're not going to accept the results of it but that shows you how far down the rabbit hole the republican party has been drug by a donald trump's refusal to the face reality and e, but he wants to be associated with donald trump has to bend to that reality. i know tim scott, i know he's he's got a better head on his shoulders and he showed that interview and olivia, it's interesting because look, you have vice president mike pence who did everything he was supposed to do to show his loyalty to

donald trump except break the law, right to he was going to certify the election results and that put him in danger when the secret service had to run him out of the capitol on january 6, why do you think these vp candidates think that they could get a different outcome here if they're just perfect enough i think it comes down to political craziness for power and it won't be a different outcome. i think that we have seen this for all of trump's inner circle and those that have worked closely with them, especially in the example of former vice president mike pence. and so i think the litmus test right now when he's trying to choose isn't next vp candidate is who is not going to exhibit the moral courage to take a stand on that day and certified an election when i'm trying to turn them over to trying to tell someone to overturn it. i mean, he is looking for a yes, man. he's looking for someone to be in its shadow and not overshadow him. and i think that he's

looking for someone that will go along with the demise of our democracy with whatever move he makes van, i want to talk about president biden and the ongoing protests that we're seeing in college campuses all across the country. he's set to deliver this keynote address at a ceremony, commander commemorating the holocaust next week, he's going to talk about anti-semitism. what do you think the president's goal is going to be speaking at this event, considering all of these protests that have been ongoing, considering the fact that he's trying to strike this balance among younger voters who are part of the coalition that helped elect him in 2020. but also his steadfast support of israel, but also fighting back against anti-semitism. how does he do all of them? bad well, i hope he does a better job. >> he did earlier this week. i think he missed a real opportunity. was he eats sounded like he was trying to be on the one hand, on the other hand in checking a box. i think that he needs to praise the good intentions of these young people it is a righteous

cause if you don't want to see innocent women and children well, during and doctors and journalists killed. that's a righteous cause. and at the same time, you can be for a righteous cause. and the person standing right next, you can have sinister motives, sinister intentions, and sinister desires when it comes to jewish people, when it comes to the state of israel. and so i think you should praise the positive motivations the young people, but warn them. and i think what he hasn't done an enough is to explain to people what hamas is. i remember after nine 11 george w bush came 40, explain what al-qaeda was. i didn't like what he did afterwards, but he explained it of what is hamas, what is the islamic republic of iran, not iran? ulama republic. what are they trying to do? what are their stated objectives? and you can support for a righteous cause, but still be used by people with sinister motives. he's got to clarify that and then he's got to reassure jewish americans that we are not going to abandon them. i think that they are, they see these protests and they see a lot of silence and appalling level of silence from people in the

present nine 60 to make sure that american jews are re, comforted, that we hear their pain, we understand their frustration, and they're not going to be left alone and the presidency has with them, has it surprised you how much of a wedge this is driven through the democratic party. is that an overstatement? >> it hasn't surprised me because you have a younger generation that their main sympathies are with the muslim community after nine, 11 after trump's muslim ban. you gotta remember you got young people who are on these campuses. they weren't even born when barack obama gave his famous speech in 2004 they are very young people and what they're all they know is that muslims are vulnerable and they're seeing these images. and so they're, they're not, they're not read in on a hezbollah and the who ties and hamas, the alignment republic of iran, and the taliban and that whole thing. and the precious importance of israel and the fact that there are 1 billion chinese people of billion africans, 1 billion

indians, and only 15 million jewish people left on planet earth. half of them live in israel, and half of them are people of color. nobody has told these young people that and strong enough terms. and so of course, that doors left open for good people to step forward, but also for bad people to step forward. and use those kids and sinister ways. and he's got to be a leader now and be very clear about what's good and what's bad about this movement will be trying van jones always great to see you both. thanks so much for making time. >> still ahead widespread floods, devastating much of texas. we are aligned with what's happening on the ground. there. you're in the cnn newsroom so it's the playoffs, great teammates trust each other. we're gonna do a trust falls stand up, trust what you sent me up doc i've told you he was a dummy millions of people have lost weight with personalized plans from num, like stephanie, who

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thousands of people have been forced out of their homes due to flooding and southeast texas and the danger is not over yet. more than 200 people and dozens of pets have been rescued with some evacuations and flood watches still in effect for the greater houston area? covering this for us, we have meteorologist chad myers, who's in our weather center, rosa flores is on the ground. there in harris county, texas. rosa let's start first with you i know you've been there for the last couple of days watching all of this unfold, give us an idea of what first responders are dealing with today as they continue to try and reach people who are stranded you know jessica first responders are risking their lives to try to save the lives of others. and you know, they told me that one of the most difficult part some of job is when they're in a water rising situation in a life-threatening situation and they extend their arm to save someone to write rescue them, take them to higher ground and that

individual decides not to be rescued. well, that's exactly what has happened in the neighborhood that you see behind me. take a walk, you can see that water has swallowed this road. what's beyond this road is a restaurant in a neighborhood with multiple people still living there despite the rise high-z waters, there is no access to this area by car. that's why we hopped on an air boat with the harris county sheriff's office. we have video of this. take a look. you can see that the water is very high. it has receded in the past few hours, just a little bit. but what the water as you can see, is still high. and the first responders tell us that they went house to house, knocking on doors, letting people know that they could hop on the boat and get to safety. and they indeed rescued children. their parents, elderly, and even their pets, take a listen they did one rescue and the guy handed as a box with a litter

of puppies in it, and then ice cooler that was full of kittens and, you know, i mean, i guess there there will not i guess i know that they're pets are like family members there's two of them. this is a multip county weather event, but let me start here in harris county, we have a map of the evacuations now that is in north east part of harris county. but as i was saying, there are multiple counties that are impacted and the thing is is that water heads towards where we are towards the gulf of mexico. now i want us to walk in this direction because the banks of the san jacinto river are supposed to be seen right beyond this tree line. and all you see back there is water and here's the thing. jessica, the water from lake khan row, which is north west of where we are and late livingston in the eastern west works of the san jacinto river, which then feed into lake

houston. they all hello. in this direction and that is what's so devastating for the people in this community. it's not just the rain that falls in his community. the water that's expected to flow down through here as the water flows into the gulf of mexico could take several days and that is what people are hunkering down for. >> yeah. >> yeah, that's scary. all right. rosa flores for its inherence county taxes. thanks so much for that update. let's go now to chad can residents expect any relief? >> because i know they keep they keep having more rain, heavy rain, more threats of severe weather. >> what's it's looking like as we look forward for them? there's still a chance of a shower, but nothing like a deluge, no big thunderstorms coming tonight and by tomorrow morning it it's completely gone. >> one thing i wanted to note is how slowly the water was moving behind rosa, how slowly the water it looks like it's moving here. it's because the land is so flat, it will take a lot long time for all of these

rivers here, eastern northeast of houston to get all the way down there to the gulf of mexico, something i heard earlier this week though, about how this water is worse than we had in harvey? >> well yes, in places maybe one or two rivers here, but harveys rain was back out here. >> so hard to compare those apples to oranges comparison. one more thing i want you to notice is the big whether they're no tornadoes so far today, but there will be some severe weather across parts of south texas. now, earlier in the week, we had 12 gauges that were in major flood stage. now we have eight, which means at least the water's going down a little bit still has to go up some ford gets into these lower rivers because even though it's going down to the north, it's still has to get somewhere else. it has to get into the gulf of mexico there's the chance of severe weather later on today. and then for tomorrow, we have a chance of tornadoes. again, we have had tornadoes. jessica one or more for the last ten days in a row for a total of 224. and this is the area of

potential tornadoes tomorrow. don't focus on the bull's-eye focus on any color, because that will be a big event for tomorrow and the potential for tornadoes and severe weather just spreads over. >> so i'm looking there at so many different states, just a huge swaths of land. all right. chad myers for us and weather center. thanks so much. >> still ahead. another police crackdown on large campus protests in southern california. what we're learning after officials temporary closed the university of southern california campus, you're on the cnn newsroom the trump hush money trial, gavel to gavel coverage. the weight only cnn can bring it to you. legal insight, expert for analysis and real-time updates live from the courtroom follow the facts follow the testimony, follows cnn tie alluded to an ard the lotto singular di at

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when the disbursement orders were in place, people did not listen. people got arrested, things got extremely greenleaf, violent, and authorities had to deal with the chaos and the violence. then this time around it appears that all of these students listened. they were able to still can and still be very passionate, but disbursed last time on april 24th, 93 people were arrested 51 of them were students, three faculty, three staff members. but it's reflective of what we're seeing around the country. where not everyone is a student, not everyone gets arrested, is affiliated with the school. and so usc saying they already started a disciplinary process for the people that are involved in this. and god detained and our party so the school and so again, it's what you're seeing around the nation because there are some repercussions for the people who are involved in these encampments. the university is back open, but only if you have an id, are you

allowed to go inside of the school? they're also saying that no one with any camping gear is allowed inside of the school, so they are trying to prevent this from happening again, just all right. >> camila bernal for us there at usc and los angeles. thanks so much also new today, the university of mississippi scipy opening a student conduct investigation citing what officials call offensive and hurtful language and actions of hostility and racist overtones. this coming after a protest involving pro-palestinian and anti protest demonstrators we're about to show you some of that confrontation and a warning. you might find it disturbing adding to the outrage that video was shared on social media by georgia

republican congressman mike collins, who posted quote, ole miss taking care of business cnn's rafael romo has been looking into all of this and raphael cnn actually spoke with the woman that we saw being taunted in that video. what did she say? >> well, jessica, we wanted to first confirm her identity and wanted to also hear what she had to say. and one of the things that she told us is that she yelled back consulting words at the counter. protesters and their are multiple videos circulating online showing the protest at the university of mississippi and oxford. but there's one video, the one we showed a video in particular that has gone viral. and it's at the center of the controversy before i show you the video, we need to again warn our viewers that it may be offensive to many people and as you can see, jessica, the video shows a

group of mostly young white men in the counterprotest yelling at a black woman, at least one counter is seen on video and appears to be making gestures at the woman. we now know who the woman in the video is. her name is jaylin r. smith. >> she's 24 years old. she confirmed to my colleague, dianne gallagher that she is the woman seen in the videos meets smith said that during the protest, pro-palestinian demonstrators were kept in an enclosure, which police said was for their safety. she also said that she briefly stepped out of the enclosure to go live on social media, and that was when the confrontation took place cnn has made efforts, but has night identified any of the counter-protests are seen in the video we have also learned that the university of mississippi has opened an investigation into student conduct, but didn't say who or what they were specifically investigating in the letter. chancellor glenn boyce says, university officials are aware that some statements made were offensive, hurtful, and

unacceptable, including actions that conveyed hostility and racist overtones. smith's tells cnn that she said some insults back to the counter-protestors, but adds the following here, i quote, people calling me fat or lizzo didn't hurt my feelings because i know what i am. i am so confident in my blackness. i'm so confident in my size, in the way that i wear my hair and who i am they do not bother me if anything, i felt pity for them for how stupidly they acted. and jessica, the controversy took another turn when you as representative mike collins, a republican representing parts of georgia, shared the viral video on x the following day saying ole miss taking care of business cnn has reached out to collins office, but there hasn't been an answer, so forth. >> and then yesterday, congressman collins tweet prompted the end of lacp to send a letter to congressional leadership asking for an investigation into collins conduct in part, the letter says the following these

actions conducted by a member of the house of representatives, regardless of intent, legitimize and propagate racism and undermine the principles of equality and justice that our government is sworn to uphold. >> some of our viewers may remember that the university of mississippi has had a long history of racial incidents including the deadly riots that broke out there in 1962. when james meredith, meredith became the first black student to enroll there at the school, jessica, back to you. >> all right. rafael, thanks for that reporting. we'll be right back. >> how it really happened tonight at nine on cnn, right now, you get a free foot locker subway just by nf foot login to app to get one free. geoff scan a qr code indiana promo code, fal fogbow. it only works. i'm not a sato's scream buddy. >> you still got a landline or your house, or a nauta subway out good day to cough. oh, no

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