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starts right now powerful dangerous storms swept through the midweek, shredding buildings. >> tearing homes apart today, tens of millions from texas all the way to main could be here good bye, more powerful storms. we will tell you where the biggest threat is a day off, maybe just what everyone needs after what became a blush induced singh day of testimony and explicit details and donald trump's criminal trial. >> stormy daniels testimony. and what both sides are doing today to prepare for her to head back to the standard model smoke seen over raffa after a new round of israeli bombing overnight, this morning, the biden administration has halted the shipment of certain bombs to israel commit appending new report on whether israel violated humanitarian law i'm john berman with kate bolduan and sarah sayyed. this is cnn new central right? thinking

this morning today, tens of millions of americans from texas to main could see severe storms. the strongest threat stretching across parts of midwest. we're talking possible donators, giant hail and powerful wind gust yesterday tornadoes, tore apart parts of michigan, one ripped apart a fedex facility in the city of porridge, temporarily trapping dozens of people in that building. officials, there are urging people to check on their neighbors after reports of gas leaks, which of course can cause explosions and there were some downed live power leinz, it was the 13th consecutive de of tornado reports across the united states. michigan governor gretchen whitmer has declared a state of emergency in four counties in her state. cnn's derek van dam is in porter's, michigan outside that damage fedex building. can you tell plus first of all what

happened to those folks who were inside trapped by this tornado sara, i am on the site of the heavily damaged fedex building where initially 50 people were trapped. >> fortunately, they were rescued and taken and cleared away with only minor injuries, but get this there were two tornadoes that move through this very location where i'm standing within only an hour and 20 minutes apart from each other and yesterday evening, michigan saw its first tornado emergency that the wolverine state, my home state, have has ever issued. i want to take you to a bird's-eye view of this fed-ex building that is so heavily damaged. this is the mass karam from our satellite truck that we have on site. and so we zoom in a little bit closer. you'll be able to see just how the roof collapsed them. of course, trapping anybody in died. it wasn't just this fed-ex building that was damaged. this is just a drop in the bucket in kalamazoo county

where i'm located. there was a mobile home park where 12 trees were reported, minor injuries. they were transported to local area hospitals. much of the county was without power as of last night look this is my home state, lake michigan typically acts as a buffer for these types of tornado super cells. not this time, it managed to see these storms move in from the south to the north, entering into southern portions of western michigan where we're located and it caused the destruction in both kalamazoo county where i am and also union county where it is just to ourself and he's were another tornado emergency was issued. look, i want to talk about the threats that are ongoing and here's a look at the current radar because it's still very active with another line of thunderstorms moving into nashville. this is the first round of storms. they will refi are today hey we're talking about over 100 million americans under the threat of severe storms. look at that

level four or five, that shading of red with a bulls-eye right over nashville paducah all the way into central missouri. this is an area where strong tornadoes could occur. once again, but don't focus on the red. it goes for long distances, stretching came from texas all the way to west virginia as well. but we've highlighted the areas where we believe the greatest chances of ef2 tornadoes that's 111 mile per hour hour winds capable of the damage that you see behind me, obviously very dangerous. that is the threat day. today, st. louis to nashville. and then of course, we've got the flash flood threat as well. look, sarah, this is a notoriously busy time of 20 tornado season, april head over 300 tornado reports the 13th consecutive day of tornadoes reported across the us it can't stop it won't stop in today is no different back to you. >> so the big warning right now, st. louis this nashville, those two big populated cities, right in that bullseye where there are potential tornadoes

the population there really needs to pay attention to the weather. thank you so much. i appreciate derek van dam reporting live there from your home state and seeing the damage from the tornadoes overnight, kate, as wild that damage to that is there also this morning, cord is dark for donald trump and he's also has no campaign events scheduled for his day off from testimony instead, today, america gets to sit and stew over all that was said in detail during the hush money trial yesterday, serwer daniel stormy daniels took the stand and things quickly real and really salacious. >> daniels testified for just under four hours recounting in explicit detail the alleged sexual encounter prosecutors say donald trump broke the law to cover up before the 2016 election. the adult film stars testimony clearly had an impact on the former presidents sitting in the courtroom through it all the judge at one point admonished donald trump for audibly cursing and visibly shaking his head. the defense argued that we're all went too far and ask the judge to order a miss trial. the judge denied

that motion. >> and there's so much more sita's bridging grasses. >> watch. i say that because there's no way i'm gonna go into detail as i've got to bring you in where do, where do you want to start? where should we pay me? listen dennis took the stam brynn word, i want to start is at it's not over yet. it's crazy. it's going to continue tomorrow, but yeah, this was an eventful day in court to say the least, the prosecution obviously, needing her to tell her story and she didn't look, this is a story she told reporters. she wrote about it in her book. and now jurors for the horse time or hearing it in open court where she right in front of donald trump himself and she went into great detail. i mean, at sometimes you know, it was so much detail that the judge even had to interject and basically say stay in line. she was talking so fast that the court reporter had to say slow down happened often often, and there was there's a lot of objections that the president tapping his defense attorneys basically asking to object to what she was saying, and the judge sustaining them right after one another. she was even laughing at her own jokes and they were not landing with a juror. so there were just so

much sort of ickiness and that's separate from the axis. >> so do laughed at her own jokes all the time and they land and the crew i understand that feeling, but i'm not inborn. >> yeah. so anyway, she she of course told the story of how she met donald trump, how he was interested in the porn industry, the business behind it, not necessarily the salacious in this. there were some enduring parts in there and then also getting into the encounter that they had and then also how she basically met michael cohen and how they this whole deal happen, which is what prosecutors needed her to do. but when the defense got up there, man, they just went after her credibility, right. they basically we're saying that she's lying at some points that she's told the story in all different ways that they questioned her motivations. >> shoeing is she's baez she's doing this to make money. >> she hates trump what she admitted on the stand that you'd actually like to see him in jail, which she admitted on the stand. let me read you one excerpt from the defense back-and-forth the nickels the defense attorney saying my question was, you've been making money by claiming to have had sex with president trump for more than a decade,

right? and she answered, i have been making money by telling my story about what happened to me and she said in that story in essence, is that you say you had sex with president trump, right? yes. & that story has made you a lot of money, right? >> it has also cost me a lot of money. so that was one of the exchanges where of course the defense is really trying to point out that i won't even saying you're extorting the president. and that came out also on the stand. so there was a lot there and then there was the request for a mistrial. yeah. so this happened i feel like there was two we had almost mostly prosecution before lunch and then mostly a defense after lunch in the middle before they came back after lunch and jurors were in the room. defense attorneys asked for a mistrial, essentially saying that you can't unring the bell with some of the stuff she was saying she was describing the present as a large man, almost insinuating in some ways that she wasn't this wasn't a consensual a counter. and the defense is saying, listen, this is a case about business records. why are we even insinuating some of this sort of detail that shouldn't be in the courtroom. the judge basically said, listen, i

don't think we're at the point of a mistrial, but certainly there were things that were said that could have been left unsaid really, the judge said that, but he said, listen, i give you permission defense to go after it, so it's going to continue. >> that is where they pick up. yeah. pick up with cross exemption use tomorrow. >> yeah. all right. all right. >> well done putting that together as i could never have summed it up myself. >> john. >> all right. delayed indefinitely. a huge win for donald trump and the criminal classified documents case. >> new reporting on what caused us to delay armed shipments to israel as we get new video of explosions and raffa it tiktok suh, the us government, the huge new effort to avoid a nationwide ban trump hush money trial gavel to gavel coverage, the weight only cnn can bring it to you. >> legal insight, expert analysis, and real-time updates live from the courtroom. follow the facts, follow the testimony

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play offs what do you see? >> my first step is to open easton saul's not winning a championship. >> this tries stay positive or positive. >> he didn't win a ring this morning, we have a new video of smoke over raffa in gaza after new strikes by israel, a us official says that bind administration has paused a shipment of certain bombs to israel over concerns that the bombs could be used in some kind of raffa incursion the vitamin is this ration is rushing to finish your report due to congress today on whether israel has violated international humanitarian law in gaza. >> and the findings could further inflamed divisions joined now by scene as kylie atwood and natasha bertrand, natasha first two you on these delayed arms shipments, what are you learning yeah, john, this is a pretty significant political message that the biden administration is sending to israel, according to us

official, last week, the biden administration decided to pause the transfer over 3,500 bombs to israel that had been pending shipment. >> and that is because they are still weighing whether or not to proceed with this shipment amid concerns over israel, israeli operations in raffa and how they're going to carry out a potential ground incursion into that area where over a million palestinian civilians are still sheltering. now, according to us official, the biden administration began a review of these kinds of weapons shipments to israel last month, as israel was weighing just how to proceed in raffa, because the administration is concerned that israel still does not have a plan for how to protect all of those civilians who are sheltering in that area korea and according to a us official, they still have not made a final determination on just how to proceed with that shipment, but a particular concern are those 2000 pound bombs that the us has been sending to israel over the last several months, and that israel has been using

in other areas of gaza to really devastating effect because of how densely populated those areas in gaza are. and so the us now saying that they're taking a beat, they're going to wait and see how israel decides to proceed with an operation inside raffa, but it's important to note here that the us has been sending, including as recently as last month, these very kinds of bombs to israel that israel has been using across what's the gaza strip. and so it's going to be interesting to see just whether the administration continues to send these kinds of shipments if israel does give them some kind of commitment that they're going to protect civilians, that their operations and raffa are in fact going to be limited but this is an important political message that the administration is sending really for the first time to israel using that leverage that the us has in terms of providing those really important weapons shipments. and military support to these really is that they have sought repeatedly since october 7th, john it's asha bertrand of the pentagon. thank you. it's asha

standby for a moment, so kylie, tell us about this report. the administration has to repair or prepare, and submit today what's it about? >> yeah, it's an incredibly high stakes report, john, it's due to congress today from the administration, though congressional sources have told us that the administration says it might be slightly delayed, so we'll see when it actually gets up there, but it's looking at two main things. the first of which is if israel is you're using us weaponry in accordance with international law if to get assurances from israel that they are using those weapons in accordance with international law. then the secretary of state has to make a determination as to if those assurances are credible and reliable. the other thing that the report is going to be looking at is if israel has impeded the assistance of humanitarian delivery into gods so of course that's a significant one because the us has consistently said that israel can be doing more on that front and it comes at a particularly sensitive intense

moment. we have these protests happening across college campuses here in the united states. you have these ongoing efforts to try and secure a ceasefire, and then you also you'll have congressional pressure from the biden administration, own party democrats who want to make sure that this is a report that's legitimate report. we've heard from senator van hollen, who has been one of the folks pushing for this report, saying that the us qantas take the assurances that israel has given them on face value. they have to make sure that there's evidenced they have to make sure there's explanations. and we also know in the backdrop here, of course, that israel's watching this report incredibly closely because while it doesn't trigger a requirement for a change in policy, it definitely could lead to one john all right kylie, i would at the state department of torture, bertrand at the pentagon are thanks to both of you. >> a lot of developments to watch today. sarah. all right. still ahead. why tick tock things that can stop the us government from banning the wildly popular app and how likely it is to succeed. >> and an american woman

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>> it's a tiktok is claiming that this law violates the first amendment rights of tiktok. & of its 170 million american users this law of course, does give take up the option to find a new owner to spin off from a chinese parent company, but tiktok says that that's not possible. and therefore, this is effectively just a ban. the company is saying that it's not possible technically legally, or commercially, and sites. the fact that the chinese parent, the chinese government, rather has said that wouldn't allow tiktok to be sold with its recommendation algorithm, which is really the thing that makes the app so valuable. so stakes for tiktok are huge, tear it doesn't surprise me that they've come out swinging because this is one of their biggest markets. >> yeah. i mean, there's so much money at stake here which can always mean big lawsuits what is there any sense yet? >> i mean, this is just kind of coming out, but is there any sense yet of how strong of a case tiktok may have, legal experts have told us that tiktok could have a fairly strong case here that these first amendment arguments are fairly compelling. legal experts have also told us that the us government, in order to

provide to prevail in this case, i should say is going to have to bring more evidence of these national security concerns. >> we haven't actually seen that much sort of specific evidence of what their worries are. and if they're going to prevail over these constitutionality arguments, they're going to have to show up with more specific evidence that they're not national security concern very interesting and much more to calm. >> it's good to see you, claire. thank you so much. thanks. jump. >> all right. stunning. and frankly, a little strange health news about a presidential candidate in a new report, robert kennedy opens up about health issues from a quote worm that got into my brain and eight portion of it. and then die that's a direct quote from this new report. in new efforts to oust house speaker mike johnson marjorie taylor greene has been holding secret meetings with him so what's the upshot cnn business

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well, sarah, look, i mean, i think this may 20th trial date we've all considered it to be written in visible a inke because we, none of us really believed that this trial was going to happen in may. >> and now the judge has officially conceded that that is not happening. she's also scheduled a number of hearings that mean this these these pretrial proceedings at least could go well into july, which makes it virtually impossible at this point for us to really think of a trial happening before the november election, which is always donald trump's is goal, right? it, his goal was always to push this off, make sure that this didn't happen before the november before the november vote, the judge cited a number of matters. motions, eight of them in all that she says need to be tackled before she can even consider setting a trial there. she also said a couple of of hearings for late june on things that frankly were looked look to us as as long shots.

right. there was an effort by trump to get records from inside the administration to try to prove that this was a malicious prosecution also a motion for consider whether jack smith was even legally appointed. these are all all motions that don't really normally have very good chances, but this judge, eileen canon has decided that she wants to hold hearings on those later in june. >> sara i have a question for you. i mean, what is jack smith, if anything, saying about this? he has been pretty pointed about some of the decisions that judge has made in filing things before, right right. >> i think you might expect that the tensions that have been already long simmering in this case are going to just going to be exacerbated by this. there's a lot of frustration on the part of the justice department that this case should not be moving along. so plotting li slow. every time we go to a court hearing down down four peers, sara, we wonder whether this is the day we're going to hear the judge said a new trial date,

and then she doesn't do it. and one of the reasons why there's so much frustration is a lot of speculation has been that the government could ask for her to be removed, but the problem is, she doesn't have a lot of record for them to use against her. she doesn't make any rulings. she just kinda kicks the can down the road and that's again what donald trump wants out of this case. >> all right. and it has to be said that she was appointed by donald trump and you will probably see some kind of reaction coming up. thank you so much, evan, for all that reporting. kate, jonny is now a scene and legal commentator, former trump white house leuser, jim shultz and cnn legal analyst or my, son. >> it's good to have you guys here in studio. thank you so much. >> let's start with what evan was just talking about. >> what do you think jim, of this move by the judge in florida. this case should have never been brought in florida. jack smith made a huge error in bringing us in florida, should have brought it in dc there they are. they deal with the classified information procedures act issues all the time. there, you're going to have this judge is taking on

every issue and you have spoliation issues made by the defense. you're gonna they're gonna try to bring as much classified information as possible to the table to say that they need it for the case. and when they need it for the case, then they have to fight over with the government. what is, what is so classified that it can't be used in the trial. and the judge has to do a balancing test on that. and you have a judge that's inexperienced in this kind of thing and hadn't been in dc where we have a rocket docket in dc. this case probably in trial today. >> you're going to later explained spoliation to me what do you see this as a necessary or unnecessary delay in this calendar? it's a completely unnecessary delay when you're dealing the classified documents is sticky stuff. >> we do this all the time in the district of columbia, this sepah procedures that are slowing the judge down. she has a whole order full of sepah deadlines the courts in dc are very experienced in handling

those i agree with jim jack smith should have never brought this case in florida. he had the option of bringing it in dc. there was a pending supreme court case that was holding him up that if you guessed wrong, the case could have been thrown out altogether. it was decided at just a few days after he filed, he should have waited. it's one of his biggest mistakes in his record of prosecuting trump. there's no excuse for what this judge has done. i do think it's a mix of incompetence and bias she was reversed twice phi be extremely conservative. 11th circuit for interfering with the investigation when it was get-go, getting going with very harsh words. but as evan said, there's not enough to remove her from the case here. this case is not going to trial in 2024 it makes the alvin bragg prosecution of trump all the more important because that may be the only criminal case we

get against trump. this yes, it is. okay. okay. let's talk about let's talk about the case in new york. you guys have been watching it very closely. norm, you've been incurred. stormy daniels is back on stand again tomorrow all after all that, she said during direct examination and the beginning of cross-examination, what jim, do you think prosecutors hope the jury left the de thinking about most and then what do you think the defense is thinking one, they want to think they want them to think that prosecutors went too far. >> that's what living some of that that's what the defense that's what sense once that's what he was once. they want they want them the jury to come away with the prosecution went too far, then they wanted to come away with she had a vendetta against trump& that came out in cross-examination. you're going to see more of that come thursday, but those are the two things they want them to come away with. there is the prosecution did have a bait. their argument is that this salacious testimony is

important to show how important it was to cover this up by trump. they might have gone a little too far. there might be some appellate issues. their norm. you were in court. >> we know that the judge complained at one point, the donald trump was audibly cursing, visibly, shaking his head. what did you sum up kind what you saw in court? >> well before we got the transcript and we understood what that was about the judge when he came back from the break, said to todd, blanche, have you talked to your client? and i tweeted i was sitting there in that third row. i tweeted. that must have been trumping chastise. we could see trump getting more and more agitated with her testimony, particularly when stormy revealed some details which i agree with jim and the judge was unnecessary. it's not an appellate issue. it's not going to be a mistrial. you

cure it on cross-examination and with a limiting instruction that the judge will give to the jury. that's being negotiated now, we'll get that instruction when we go back tomorrow morning. but it was too much. trump got agitated. you can't do that. the judge got he got a little upset with stormy in the prosecution at moments when they got into the salacious details, but he got far more upset with trump. and rightly so and trump did stop after he was chests let me ask about about there. there were lots of moments, but one moment i've heard a lot of people saying that it was really bad for the prosecution when stormy when stormy daniels when the defense got stormy, daniels to admit that she hated donald trump during cross examination with put the exchange up on the screen for everybody, because a lot of people are saying this shows very clearly that the stormy daniels has bias. am i correct that you hate donald trump? yes and you want him to go to jail, right? i'm not going to read the whole thing, but it goes on and on about tweets that she would dance if you wanted to jail and it goes on and on non but essentially,

it got her to admit which is people say is a big deal that she hated donald trump and she would like to see him in jail why is that surprising to people that stormy daniels doesn't like donald trump? i think that's maybe the least surprising thing. >> there she's not going to go up there and say she likes the man after everything that went down. why is it a big deal? >> it's the same thing as saying that on the first part of the testimony that donald trump didn't want the affair with sterile stormy daniels to come out publicly, right? to come out to the general public. it's the same thing, but what they're doing is as lawyers creating a record in the case. so like they made the prosecution made the record in the first half and the testimony that making records to the jury in here. >> what do you think what is she supposed to say, kate, i wrote that i hate him, but now i love them. >> of course not. right. the only thing i've been the court thousands of times. i've been doing it for over 30 years. >> do you only thing a jury

will not forgive, the only thing is a witness who lies she has to be honest about that i've had cases where mobsters testify, hit men, testify, the jury, sometimes they you believe him, sometimes they disbelieve him. >> but if they're honest particularly if you have a witness like stormy, really i thought showed her still in pushing back she came across as credible if that's if you're i was there. >> i thought on the whole, the jury reaction was i was watching the jury they were interested. we will not know until the verdict was i think she was credible. i thought she was a messy witness, a difficult witness, a complicated witness, but a believable witness. >> agree. i think he's probably right. i wasn't in the courtroom, but i think he's probably right standby for more because she's back on the san tomorrow. thanks, guys. it's great to see you, john all right. >> this morning, marjorie

taylor greene appears to be cooling but not calling off for move to oust how speaker might johnson. she's cell two meetings with johnson this week though, johnson insists this is not a negotiation seen as lauren fox in washington with the latest. so where do things stand this morning? lauren? >> yeah. johnson saying it's not a negotiation, but look, thomas massey and marjorie taylor greene are asking for things they want a series of demands to be met, including they say a promise that all bills moving to the floor coming forward are going to only come to the floor if they have a majority doherty of the house republican conferences support this is known as the so-called hasta rule in the house. now, leadership argues that many of the bills that have come to the floor do have the majority of the majority support. they also are demanding that old 12 appropriations bills have republican support that they move them individually if you remember, last year though, john, this became a major lift

in part because conservatives were the ones blocking the advancement of the series of bills that came to the floor. they are also asking for a defunding of jack smith special counsel cool. >> office. >> that is something that they are asking for as part of those appropriations bills. >> and i mean, look, the reality is that marjorie taylor greene continues to dangle the threat of a motion to vacate against speaker johnson, but i talked to a number of republicans who said that they really don't think johnson should make any concessions, make any promises make any compromises with thomas massey and marjorie taylor greene because they argue that the goalpost could move in the future. >> they also say that it empowers just a small number of members, win the majority of the conference does not have the list of demands that marchal hello, green and thomas massey have. what this is really doing over the course of the last several days is just further revealing how divided the republican party is. and despite the fact that there are

so many members in the conference who are united, who are standing behind my johnson, who really want this whole episode to go away. they also are arguing playing that. this is a moment where speaker johnson, they have his back, but they believe that marjorie taylor greene needs to move out. now, speaker johnson for his part, is making the case that this isn't a negotiation here. he was having thoughtful conversations with those two members and others about how we continue to improve the processes and steam together and move in st. >> harrison. we're going to process these ideas just like we do all ideas and all input freedom. this is not negotiated. doing my job one of the part of the job is taken suggestions and thoughtful ideas from members. and that's what we're doing i talked to majority leader steve scully yesterday a little bit about whether this was or wasn't a negotiation. >> he said, look, when you have such a narrow majority, every single member matters john. >> so this feedback, it's a

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former president trump said. making this comparison with january 6, we're starting to hear this more and more and more. >> well, i mean, it's a talking point and you have that doing political season, aka silly season. i think the best thing you can say about it is that it's asinine. i think that it's intellectually dishonest, but those are two words that really go hand in hand with the former president when he's making these arguments. these protests that you see are no equivalent to trying to overturn an election. there no equivalent to storming the capital. there are no equivalent to trying too harm or united states members of congress or the senate, or threatened to hang them or running with confederate flags are stilling laptops or stealing lectern. i mean, this is just not that we've had protest in this country as long as this as long as this country has actually been in existence, and you're seeing that with young people today on college campuses around the country. now you can disagree with what they're protesting for, but you have to understand that these protests are actually healthy for our country. we have seen student protests

throughout time, really that has been part of the american way, jason, i just want to get your reaction. >> is this just simply red meat for the base for donald trump? i mean, what's he trying to do here using this language? yeah. well, first off, i don't see the equivalents january 6, then in these protests, but yeah, it is. i think red meat the sense that when you're looking at some of these protests and some of the interviews, they don't even know what they're protesting against for the most part, right. and so that i think becomes part of the trump message, which is these folks are just out there protesting for nothing other than to get attention. and then they're now having to face consequences on it. and so i do think that trump is going to heighten it as it continues on. i think he hopes that quite frankly, i think he hopes these protests continue because then it gets him more attention on that as opposed to some of the trials and stuff but i do want to say i have talked to some of the students and they do know what they're protesting they sometimes don't know the nuances though of what what has happened in the region and that has been an issue. i do want to

get to what president biden has said. he he made a speech about anti-semitism as the world marc holocaust remembrance day. and here's a little of what he said. he i didn't touch that much on the campus protests, which has been a problem for him politically. here's what he said but there's no place on any campus on america, any place in america for anti-semitism or hate speech or threats of violence of any kind. rather against jews or anyone else while it's a tax, destroying property there's not peaceful protest. >> it's against the law and my commitment to the safety the jewish people, the security of israel, and its right to exist as an independent jewish state is ironclad even when we disagree just question for you, because how do you think biden has handled this? because he is under enormous pressure from young people in particular who really do not like the way that he is handled, the way i

actually think that i can be critical of the president on this particular issue. i think that the speech he gave yesterday was pitch perfect. i think you are seeing a rise of anti-semitism in these places. i think it's one thing to protest the fact that you have a reaction, a very visceral reaction to what you've viewed to be a disproportionate use of force and gaza, too many men, women, and children that's in lives being taken. that's one thing, but also understanding that israel has a fundamental right to exist, that she has a right to protect herself that october 7 was one of the most grave despicable today's we've ever seen in this country. well, in that country's history. and so i think the president has a balance and what his goal is to have a cessation of fire that's goal that's his overarching goal. he understands that if he focuses on that goal and he's able to bring peace to the region while you can have for the discussions, if he's able to bring hostages back home and stop firing and bombing and gaza. then the protest here would quell and that will be a political win. but it also be a win of just pure humanity. and so he's really focused on the goal and the hard part for us

having this discussion is, i can't really tell you what the cia director's doing. i can't tell you what jake solomson doing. i can't tell you what tony blinken is doing i just know they're working towards a goal, but it's very difficult to understand what they're doing in egypt, what they're doing in khader. and that lack of, of a line of sight means that you have to have faith in this president understanding that he values the relationship with israel how difficult is this when you look at this and how are republicans exploiting this? because the ceasefire is a problem, it is not happening yet, and they're still discussing this. but talks have broken down once again yeah. >> and i know this is going to sound controversial and i don't mean it's not necessarily what i believe in, but to your point about what the trump message should be on some of this is that i do think that biden is running the risk of sounding a little bit like trump did in charlottesville where there's people, good people on both sides. and i think you're probably going to see the trump folks start to push that a little bit more that message like you can't have it both ways here. then you get to the issue of what is it that the israelis want and

what is it that the trump and the base one? and of course they want the fighting to stop, but they also tend to see that hamas and some of these other folks are actually not wanting a cease fire. a true when they fire rockets in to israel and they've got all these other allies that are coming in. it makes it very hard. i think for trump's base to actually come over to the biden mentality or messaging let's have a ceasefire and then all this endless suffering because you have netanyahu and all these other folks saying, if we stop, they're going to continue doing what they're doing and they're not helping themselves and helping, quite frankly, the biden message. i mean, it's a thin line. i think that he has to walk here. >> can i just ask you guys one more thing? the new york times, and this has nothing to do with well, it has to do with the presidential election has just come out with this extraordinary bizarre article on rfk and they're reporting that doctors in a deposition that rfk's had doctors found a

worm in his brain that had eaten part of his brain and then died. there i mean, you laugh, but i mean what jason, what might this mean what might this mean to an election to hearing that he said that one of the things that i tell my clients all the time, it's trying not to go into depth position's high. >> that's usually what i would suggest and i would say that would be my my my words of wisdom i, you know, i have political issues with rfk, but this is just a little bit behind my pellet expertise i don't even know what to say his brain. >> yeah. which is mind-blowing on so many levels i mean, everybody's talking about the cognitive capabilities of biden. the cognitive capabilities of the warrants get there. >> i just have a lot of questions. right. i mean, that's one of those times where as a toms person, you kind of deflect and say, how about them, rangers black, announce, right? >> i don't even know had to,

bring it out because it is just so mind-blowing jason osborne, bucaram sellers. thank you so much. thanks for putting him on that one. how about them, rangers over to you, john? >> all right. this morning, eight republican members of congress want answers from the defense secretary lloyd austin. they are urging him to explain discrepancies between cnn reporting about the isis k attack during the evacuation of the kabul airport that attack led to the deaths of 13 us service members and 170 others and the occlusions of the discrepancy was between the pentagon report or the cnn report, and they conclusions of two pentagon investigations and the center of that reporting new marine gopro camera video obtained by cnn, which revealed many more episodes of guns on fire than the pentagon has ever admitted this long burst is about 17 shots, bringing us a total of 20 we're tallying shots fired and episodes of fire based on two forensic

analyses on screen cannot see who is still firing here. >> and we never see marines or anyone firing in this video mother hey with us now seen in chief, international security correspondent nick paton walsh, nic talk to us about what these us members of congress are after it's warning yeah, i'm wanting answers from secretary defence lloyd austin as the discrepancies between the video you saw there that form part of our reporting a couple of weeks ago. and what they'd been briefed by the pentagon on number of occasions. now, most recently in the past weeks when the pencil it's gone finished their second investigation into this wine back to august 2021, taliban are taking cobble the us are evacuating, taking afghan civilians to help them out with them. and isis bomb detonates. and it kills over 170 afghans and those 13 us servicemen it was a very high toll.