in response to industry concerns, the department announced they will use -- enforcement discretion" when enforcing the role between july of 2024 and january of 2025 but there is no guarantee for schools that will be given the time that they need to get all the necessary approvals by state legislators and federal regulators. first, why the policy in the first place? why would the government mandate that schools can only offer a minimum of hours to students? >> thank you for that question. i think that we are on the same page. we want to make sure that we have opportunities for students to engage in industry connected fields. we want to make sure that while we are providing greater opportunities, we are also providing high-quality programming. what i'm hearing from you is that there are concerns and we want to make sure that we are listening and responsive to the concerns. >> i will ask one additional question, running out of time.

you mentioned discretionary enforcement. i do not know exactly what that means. can you simply delay the full implementation of the role until january 2025? >> we will take that into consideration and i wanted to follow-up with you. >> thank you. i yield back. >> think you. we do have members who are coming back after votes so were going to take a break helpful as -- >> thank you very much for coming back after our break for votes. i now recognize mr. comber for five minutes. >> thank you. thank you for being here today. you acknowledge that a budget is estate with values. i hope you will agree that the violence being spewed on college campuses are not in any way the values of the department of education. over the last several years, we

have seen university presidents begging for assistance from local law enforcement, including those like george washington university facing resistance from local elected officials several blocks away here in washington, d.c., and i know that because i met with the university president last week. president joe biden asserted that there is the right to protest, but not the right to cause chaos. do you share those values with the president? >> i do. >> do you condemn illegal activities of discriminatory speech we have seen over the last several weeks on college campuses? >> i do. >> have you been in contact with george washington university president regarding her request for assistance in clearing the unlawful engagement gimmick >> i have not spoken to the president. our staff is available to work with colleges. we have spoken to hundreds of presidents in the last several months and we will continue to

make ourselves available. >> have you spoken with mayor bowser regarding the request from george washington university to utilize law enforcement to clear the trespassers who have invaded the campus? >> i have not spoken to the mayor. >> the mayor will be in attendance here tomorrow on an emergency hearing to try to understand why the mayor has refused to assist with the request from george washington university. >> do you believe preventing law enforcement from providing security within their jurisdiction is a dereliction of the mayor's duty? >> i can tell you that hate has no place in our schools, and retake the role of enforcing title six seriously. we are committed not only to complaints, but to building capacity and providing resources so that university leaders and the public in general have tools on how to

keep campuses safe. there is too much hate on our campuses that we have to address, and we are adamant that we are providing more materials and compliance oversight given the resources that we have. i strongly suggest you support our budget, which will allow us to have more investigators to expeditiously move forward on these cases. >> let me ask you this. will you commit to supporting president greenberg and administrators in similar situations and other university administrators. they are removing illegal encampments from university grounds. >> it is my responsibility to make sure campuses are safe and students have a safe learning environment. >> will you commit to bank >> i can tell you because i have walked through the encampment. it is not a safe learning environment. we heard from several students

that george washington university who were threatened. they were being threatened while they were escorting us through the encampment. the university president was begging the city of washington, d.c. police to come in and remove the trespassers, and they are refusing to do so. i believe we are in the second week, it has almost been 14 days we are approaching the third week of this violation of the law, of trespassers, intimidation of jewish students, desecration of statues, the statute of george washington dressed as a hamas soldier, so i do think the department of education should bear some response ability. i think it is the role of the department of education to ensure that these students are being protected, that they are in a safe environment, and from what i saw firsthand george

washington university, i don't think that is the case, especially for jewish students. i guess my question is will you commit to working with these university presidents and administrators who are begging these local law-enforcement officials and i hate to say this, but cities who are refusing for whatever reason to go in and remove the trespassers. will you commit to working with the professors because they are reaching out asking for help from somewhere. the house oversight committee has jurisdiction over washington, d.c. we will do what we can. there are a lot of campuses where the evidence traders are begging for assistance. can they call the department of education and will you assist gimmick >> they can call the department of education. we will be available to support them and make sure students are safe on campus. >> thank you. >> thank you. mr. williams, you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you.

mr. secretary, you have made it this far, are you a hockey fan? >> i am a big football fan. >> that is a good lead into my question. you probably heard of wayne gretzky. famous hockey player, he used to say what made him great was that he would skate to where the puck was going to be and everything i have observed, you have done an extra every drop of skating to where the puck is not going to be. i would call it your greatest skill because you are a football fan. i think the efforts you go to to avoid answering questions seem to be antithetical to the purpose of these hearings. are you -- is your department going to have all the kinks worked out on fafsa enrollment by the beginning of the 2024

deadline gimmick >> we recognize how important that is. >> i am glad it is important. will you be ready? this is the executive branch. right? you are in charge? >> so october 1st 2024, what should parents expect gimmick >> my expectation is we will be ready to go and they will have information -- >> are you committing to october 1st 2024? i'm sorry, but it is going to work? >> as i said and i will repeat, i am making sure that the staff knows this is the highest priority and it is my expectation that we will be ready. >> do you have the authority to make things happen in your department? >> yes. >> you are certain? >> the answer was yes. >> thank you. one of the things that we have seen is that we have campuses

that are essentially being burned down on title nine issues, and, i'm sorry, title six issues if you are spending a lot of time on rewriting title nine issues. we have jewish students afraid to go to classes, we have disruptions, classes being canceled, commencement's being canceled. which of these accomplishments are you most proud of? >> we issued letter for college leaders on friday. i submitted a letter to 5000 leaders. we are committed to ensuring title six is adhered to. we have more investigations and shared ancestry and we are working diligently for those investigations. your support of the budget would be helpful. we are committed to providing resources to universities out of compliance with title six.

>> a little late. >> this is our third set of guidance. i would ask you to visit the resource page that we put together with input from parents, students, jewish leaders -- >> you mentioned in your budget that you are asking for an increase of $3 billion. is that right? >> are using for student aid? >> i thought it was for the whole thing. >> you are cutting charter goals by $40 million. >> know. we are proposing a reduction of $40 million to the charter schools. >> what is the difference between cutting by 40 million and proposing? this is where the puck is and it is opposite of the use of the english language. >> so we are proposing a $40

million decrease to the budget that we had before. >> students in my district and some of the poor neighborhoods, there is a waiting list to get into charter schools and they depend on this. i understand from your previous testimony that it won't cut any services to charter schools. that was your representation today. >> it is so largest competitive grant that we have. we would not see a reduction. >> i encourage you to stick with football because hockey is not your sport. thank you. i yield back. >> thank you mr. williams. miss omar, do you have a closing statement you would like to make? >> our education system must break down barriers and not

create them. we must ensure that every student, regardless of as a code has access to equitable and high-quality education. yet, as we near the 70th anniversary of brown v board of education, it is disheartening to see racial and economic segregation persist in american schools. secretary cardona, a good quality education should be afforded to every student. thank you to the biden and harris at ministration. we have seen great strides in our k-12 and higher education system. while democrats continue to push for progress, our efforts have been stamford by republicans extreme culture war fueled agenda. we must prioritize meaningful solutions ever harmful and divisive rhetoric. we must put people over politics. as we move forward, democrats are committed to supporting the

department to reflect our commitment for equitable education. thank you. >> thank you. i now recognize myself for closing statement. mr. secretary, you admitted here today that college graduates are earning over $1 million more than those who don't go to college. me repeat that. in your own words, college graduates are wealthier. so why should americans who have chosen a less expensive path to a career pay the student loan bill of their wealthier peers? from their aggressive and inflationary repayment pause, you continued for over three years to blanket bail out for borrowers making over $300,000

through your so-called safe plan that ensures lawyers and those with advanced degrees pay back a fraction of what they owe. your department is simply transferring wealth from disadvantaged families you claim to care about to your political younger class you need. it is shocking how much the debt cancellation agenda has steered your ship and despite all of this, you're the part men's fy 2025 budget request shows that under your leadership, students will default at greater rate going forward than those who borrowed at the peak of the covid pandemic. is that truly -- if that truly

is the case, i don't know how to characterize your tenure other than earlier. now i want to turn to anti- semitism. you unequivocally condemned anyone saying to kill all muslims. good for you. we all should condemn not. yet, when given multiple opportunities, you would not condemn from the river to the sea, nor would you condemn calls for campuses to eliminate -- how can the jewish community in this country trust you to address anti-semitism on campuses if you have such double standards about anti- semitism? americans are waking up to the radicalism on campus and the radical progressive agenda that has consumed the department of education and thank god they are.

with that, i adjourn the committee. i think the secretary for being here. >> thank you.