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>> move back, move back. >> bill: you guessed it, another day, another american campus. two weeks of chaos police finally clearing out anti-israel protestors at george washington university only a few blocks from the white house. the d.c. mayor and police chief talked about their decision to go in now. the timing of the crackdown might be viewed from a political lens. i'm bill hemmer and hello to you. >> dana: good morning. great to see you. wednesday. i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." the encampment has been up for two weeks in d.c. mayor and police chief say the situation escalated over the past several days. >> bill: operation happened at 3:00 in the morning with riot gear and pepper spray. chanting and pushing, officers arrested at least 20. >> dana: it came hours before the mayor and police chief testify on capitol hill. lawmakers will expected to grill

them on their response to the anti-semitic protests and why they didn't act season. >> bill: the protestors projecting long live the student intifada among other things on the american flag as you see on your screen there less than a mile from the white house and president biden struggling to respond and had this to say. >> president biden: there is no place on any campus in america, any place in america for anti-semitism or hate speech or threats of violence of any kind. [applause] whether it's against jews or anyone else. violent attacks and destroying property is not peaceful protest. it's against the law. >> bill: mark meredith is back at g.w. this morning. what happened there? >> good morning to you. what a difference a few hours can make.

the headline at this hour 33 arrests made overnight after police decided to break up this encampment that stretched on for two weeks. show you what is happening at this hour. the university is clearing out what was left of the tents, setup that had been built up over those two weeks. i have seen officers as well as cleanup crew try to throw things away. multiple dump trucks out there. an indication they don't want to see any of this standing within the next few hours and removed some of the stuff that was covering, for instance, the statue of george washington. now he is completely covered up. an indication they want to clean it. the video from overnight as police decided the make arrests around 3:00 a.m. officers on bikes urging the crowd to leave the encampment giving them verbal warnings before moving in on bikes. those who refused to leave were eventually arrested, around 33 people. police decided to use pepper spray to break up the crowd and one of our photographers got hit a little bit. we have heard from the mayor as

well as police chief within the last 20 minutes or so talking about why they decided to go in last night as opposed to the last several days. here is what the police chief had to say moments ago. >> since the start of the encampment on the campus on april 25th the metropolitan police department has been supporting gw in monitoring the first amendment desmitis. they began peacefully. over the past few days there was an escalation in the volatility of the protests at g.w. >> george washington university had called this an illegal protest and urged d.c. leaders to step in to clean it up. the school said they didn't have the resources needed to essentially get these people out of here. pressure was building on d.c.'s mayor to act to force a change. several members of congress have been coming to tour the encampment. senator steve danes visited yesterday. mayor bowser expected to testify what was happening on capitol

hill later this afternoon. what comes next? protest organizers are now asking for jail support. they want those arrested released as soon as possible and have released a statement this morning on instagram writing a clear violation of their rights. an attempt to silence student voices. no amount of arrests willened student organizing. no indication that these students will be coming back out this morning. the police are still here and have the barricades off. press can't get in. they want to make sure it's completely cleaned up. whether we see it aloud back open to the public is a question. we ask the university for a update. we hope to get one later on today what they believe has happened and the mayor saying they felt they needed to go in now because things were only getting more aggressive. we saw students from other universities start to make their way to g.w. because this protest was still standing. >> bill: we'll see the statue of george washington in short order. nice to see you, mark meredith on campus at g.w.

>> dana: new developments on two fronts. former president trump's legal battles. the case over his misuse of classified documents. remember that case? a federal judge delayed that case indefinitely over a meier myriad of issues. the woman at the center of trump's criminal trial in new york supreme court offering up explicit testimony. alleged sexual encounter with the former president provoking his team to move for a mistrial. one that judge merchan denied pretty quickly. nate foye has an update for us this morning outside the courthouse. hi, nate. >> former president donald trump is in florida today but he will be back here at the courthouse in new york tomorrow for the resumption of testimony from adult film actress stormy daniels. she met trump back in 2006 and claimed she had sex with him soon after that. she explained that encounter in great detail on the witness stand yesterday. prosecutors said it was

necessary to establish the conduct that trump would later allegedly try to hide but trump's lawyers argued daniels provided prejudicial testimony and asked for a mistrial. the judge said i agree it would have been better if some of the things were left unsaid and later said i don't believe we're at a point where a mistrial is warranted. daniels testified she met trump several times after their encounter. back then she thought he could help her career. now she says she hates trump and admitted to saying or posting online that she would dance down the street if he went to jail. trump denies an affair with daniels calling the case a quote false ancient history and said this after court. >> this was a very big day. a very revealing day, as you see their case is totally falling apart. they have nothing on books and records and even something that

should bear very little relationship to the case. >> meanwhile, the trial for trump's federal classified documents case with special counsel jack smith is delayed. a new date hasn't been provided yet. the judge says there are too many outstanding pre-trial motions and classified issues that need to be resolved. the timing of that case and this trial, of course, will be closely watched with the november election approaching. former president trump says in this case he believes that manhattan prosecutors are elongating making their case. he thinks it is an effort to keep him off the campaign trail. >> dana: understand they've asked for more time as well. thank you so much. >> bill: jonathan turley with us now. hasn't gone to bed all night. good morning to you and thank you for your time. we have 100 questions. i hope we can get to 50 of them, okay? here is what the judge said yesterday, all right? i think the jury was out of the room at this time but maybe they weren't. the judge said i agree that it would have been better if some of these things had been left

unsaid. now to you, sir. is that common for a judge to say? and if he does say that, what follows? does a mistrial follow or not necessarily? >> no, he is suggesting now he will ask the jury to pretend that they didn't hear it so they can just unhear it rather than hoping that it was unsaid. of course that's not going to work. what was baffling is that the judge created this dumpster fire that went off in his courtroom. it was the defense that said there is no reason for this witness. she is not material to the case. the details of their alleged tryst doesn't have any bearing on the crime. the nda is not being contested. the question is how it was denoted as a legal expense. so the testimony was entirely irrelevant and the judge refused to narrow this testimony the way

that the defense suggested, if not disallowing it. then he expressed surprise when this porn star went lurid detail. keep in mind she said she was coached by the prosecutors. they wanted this to happen. this was not just to humiliate the president they wanted to poison the well with the jury. they know the likely penalty from the court will tell this jury pretend you didn't hear all that stuff which is impossible obviously. >> dana: the defense attorney had this exchange with stormy daniels. seems relevant. she says am i correct that you hate president trump? yes, daniels said. you want him to go to jail? she asked? >> i want him to be held accountable. the jury definitely heard that. and what do you think of that? should -- i guess there are some people saying, some legal scholars, one here, as a criminal defense attorney they would be objecting more if they were trump's legal team.

what do you make of that? >> i'm not too sure that's fair. they had a standing objection to her testimony. they tried to narrow it further and this judge has previously chastised them for making too many objections. and so i'm -- i really don't agree that they were clearly ineffective because they didn't raise more objections. would i have objected more? probably. that's my style. but i can't cast judgment on them. you know, her statement about hating him and wanting him in jail virtually everyone in that courtroom could make the same statement from the prosecutors and possibly the judge. this is an unbelievably hostile environment. to some degree she is the perfect -- some degree she is the -- to some degree she is the perfect witness. it is all legal burlesque.

>> bill: i see why you did not stop there. i have been listening to you, and andy mccarthy and all the great legal minds around here. you all agree that this should not have happened. but it did. there is no court today. we reconvene tomorrow. what is the chance the judge says, you know what? this should not have happened? it will never stand up upon appeal and therefore a mistrial happens? what's the chance that happens? >> well,, as you might expect the chance the judge will have an epiphany looking in the mirror in the morning is unlikely. we said all along we don't know what the crime being alleged here is. this trial is so bizarre because you still have a debate going on two weeks into the trial of what exactly trump was trying to cover up as a crime. that puts aside all of the weird ways that they use two dead

misdemeanor and zapped them back into life under this theory. if he lets that go forward he'll let this go forward. the judge had to know what was going to happen with stormy daniels on the stand. he was warned. he overruled objections and now he says i really regret that. i'm shocked that i had a porn star in my courtroom. that's not going to work. now has he committed reversible error? in my view he has even before stormy daniels took the stand. can he rescue the trial through instructions? probably not. but, you know, when the prosecution rests, the defense will stand up and ask for the dismissal of this case. that will be the next major opportunity for him to do the right thing. >> dana: jonathan turley, thank you. great to have you on "the five" last night. appreciate you getting up early for us this morning as well. we have another lawyer who will be on with us this hour, donald trump's legal spokesperson,

alina habba. >> bill: talk about the documents case in florida. punted yet again. president biden flying to a campaign stop in a state that is razor tight, wisconsin. we'll see whether or not he takes questions in front of marine one, your favorite thing, dana marie. stay tuned for that. plus this, check it out. >> how the hell am i going to get out of here now? you see the chaos. you start hearing them and what they are doing and you are like this is a movie. >> dana: custodians at columbia university talking about the angry mob that trapped them inside a campus building. why one says he is afraid to return to work. >> bill: anti-semitic protests prompting a democratic senator to break with his far left colleagues. >> it is a very much an american value to protest and free speech but what you have manifested on the campuses now is not that. my be even more uncomfortable.

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>> bill: 19 past the hour. news from capitol hill. that hearing we talked about a moment ago that was scheduled for this afternoon on anti-semitism, it has been canceled. james comer says he spoke with the mayor, got a good relationship with her. the only disagreement he has with her is her inability to crack down on crime in the district. that would be a big thing complicating her saying they did their job in clearing out the encampment at george washington university. a few blocks from the white house. that hearing has been canceled for today but we do expect it to happen at some time and we'll wait for the rescheduling memo very soon. that's your update. >> dana: she really didn't want to testify. >> bill: apparently. 20 past. here we go. >> you've always been outspoken on the college campus protests.

>> yeah. >> what do you feel about them when you see them? >> i'm not sure what they are protesting about. if you ask them they aren't really sure. it is working against peace in gaza. hamas is convinced they have won the p.r. war and they keep seeing all these kinds of protests across the nation on these campuses and it's not helpful but actually works against peace, i think. >> dana: democratic senator john fetterman with bret baier hammering demonstrators on college campuses but demonstrate against hamas. he has been outspoken in support for israel and its war against the iranian-backed terror group putting him at odds with the far left wing of the democratic party. >> bill: every interview he has is interesting. the most interesting man in washington. no one predicted that when he

won his race in pennsylvania coming off that stroke. amazing stuff. see where he takes his arguments within the party. meanwhile, dana, you have hamas propaganda showing up on college campuses suggesting some protestors are not merely supporting the palestinian cause but rather backing the terror group's message of armed struggle against israel. william la jeunesse is following that and the story live from los angeles. william, what did you find out? >> school officials found these documents after police broke up an encampment at the university of texas in april. the materials experts say are recruiting tool using students' sympathy for the palestinians to introduce more extreme views. the hand-outs you are about to see are held together by clips, rubber bands and binders celebrate the death of innocent jews and elimination of israel. in glory to gaza, one document says, armed struggles enshrined-in-law. the struggle for liberation they celebrate rocket attacks on

zionist settlements with over 2300 rockets launched last year and also reject peace or a two-state solution saying we aren't satisfied with co-existence, we must liberate the land from the river to the sea. another quotes the martyrs brigade, known terrorist group that targets israeli civilians saying we'll emerge upon you from where you least expect it. >> repetively calls for the absolute elimination of israel and israelis through violence. that's as extreme as it gets. >> some materials sourced resistance news network, telegram channel that promotes hamas and islamic jihad. officials found weapons, chains, steel cables to barricade doors and buckets of rocks and bricks to assault police. >> from the hamas perspective they want to normalize themselves and make themselves look reasonable and that they

are a good organization. >> so uc san diego found metal stakes, spray cans and a sword. 35% of those arrested were not students. half at texas. >> bill: imagine that. good reporting there and we'll continue to stay on that aspect of the story. william la jeunesse, thanks. >> dana: custodian at columbia breaking his silence following a terrifying night last week when an anti-israeli mob invaded the university's hamilton hall and swarmed the custodian as he was working. describing the terror in an interview with the free press. >> they came from both sides of the staircases, they came through the elevators and they were just rushing. it was just like they had a plan and it was like what the hell is going on? >> dana: the custodian has not been back to work since saying he no longer feels safe there. there was an interview and the

reporter joins us now. thank you for tracking him down to track him down and tell you what went on. how is he doing now? >> dana, he is really a little bit overwhelmed to be honest. a lot of attention on a subject he is a guy that wants to have a good job and provide for his family and never expected to be in the spotlight like this but really heartened by a lot of the support he has gotten after telling his story and speaking out. he is grateful for that. >> bill: a couple of things. let's go back to this. he is worried his job. a father, worried for his family and afraid of retribution. >> is columbia going to retaliate and find a reason to fire me? is someone going to come after me? we are taking a big risk, you know, doing this. but i think that they failed. they failed us. and i think that's the bigger story. they failed us. they should have done more to protect us and they didn't.

>> bill: can you report today that the school will take care of him? sxwloo i did get a comment from the university yesterday that said they cannot retaliate against people for speaking out in good faith. they said mario was a valued member of their community. with that being said, obviously, you know, he is still on edge. his fellow colleagues are still on edge trying to figure out what is going to happen next. >> bill: a shame if he loses his job. >> dana: that better not happen. lester wilson was also held in columbia. were they held against their will? >> they told me essentially yes. >> dana: why are there not kidnapping charges? >> a great question. i don't know the answer to that. if you like those people they say they had no way out of the building. they were at the will of the protestors who barricaded them in. >> dana: lester building said the building is next to the encampment. why not just one guard? why not a police presence? they should have known. it felt like they didn't even care. they were worried about the

protestors. don't hurt the protestors. what about the safety and security of the workers in the building under these conditions? and so there is some frustration. the union they belong to is helping them. >> right now the union that they belong to at columbia is suing on behalf of the workers saying essentially the university didn't do enough to protect them in that moment. >> bill: we have a photo here. we had it on screen a moment ago. become iconic for this story. the protestor held up against the wall is 40 years old described in your article as a trust fund kid by the name of james carlson owning a townhouse in brooklyn worth 2.3 million and his family owns another unit that is more than $3 million. what do you think we're learning about those from the outside who are contributing to this? >> i've been reporting for months now essentially on the infiltration of what i call multi-millionaire marxists into this movement. another example is the people's

forum which is a group based in new york city funded by multi-millionaire marxist who lives in china. a lot of outside influences who have really deep pockets and are most likely behind some of the funding to make these movements possible. >> dana: where do you think it goes from here? do you think the summer quiets down? i'm curious how they feel about columbia's graduation being canceled? >> i think where we go from here is the school year is coming to an end. i don't know if students will pick up and leave. i think many of them will at some point. but i do think we're starting to see universities getting pretty fed up with this starting to crack down bringing in police and saying you can't camp out on our campuses. this goes against our rules and now you are trespassing. >> bill: great reporting and thank you for sharing with us and our viewers today. >> you can find me at the free press.com. >> dana: thanks for being here. >> we need to go to the

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town of -- in racine county. he will be at the gateway technical college announcing a microsoft a.i. data center investment, a project that could bring 2300 construction jobs and 2,000 permanent jobs. the president trying to do damage control on his economy which features 19% higher prices than when he got into office. >> the election is going to be about the economy, inflation is back and they are ignoring it. it will be about the border. >> president biden's campaign battleground states director told reporters that while former president trump is stuck in new york, in may president biden plans to be on the campaign trail in battleground states and this is why. even with democratic prosecutors tying up the former president in court he is tied in wisconsin according to fox news polling and wherever the president goes, president biden, that is, protestors follow because of his handling of the hamas attacks on israel and israel's response.

>> you see the president do this all the time. doesn't matter where he is or speaking or commencement or one of his events, he will welcomes peaceful protests and you have seen the president engage in that process. >> this building is locked down. hard for protestors to get inside there. the president, this is his fourth trip coming to wisconsin. president trump held a rally last week in this general area. president biden's campaign said they'll spend $14 million in the month of may alone in battleground states on campaign ads. game on, dana. >> dana: thank you so much, edward lawrence. >> bill: karl rove, good morning in austin. southeastern wisconsin, racine is a county that trump won by four points. north of there you have milwaukee and milwaukee is how trump loses wisconsin with biden getting 70% of the vote in that county and city of milwaukee. here is what we find as of today in fox polling in wisconsin the

number one issue -- sorry, let's do this first. dead cinch tie 48-48. issues what is most important in wisconsin is the economy 33%, by a long shot. karl, what do you see? >> i see that wisconsin is going to be tight, tight, tight, tight, tight. look at this. 2016, 2.9 million people turned out to vote and trump wins it by 7/ten. just under 8/ten of 1%. 22,748 votes. in 2020, 300,000 more people turned out to vote. 3.2 million people and joe biden wins it by 0.63% or 20,682 votes. it will be close. look, i have a slight disagreement with you. it is not milwaukee. milwaukee actually, i think, in the county of milwaukee, the city of milwaukee, donald trump did slightly better in 2020 than he did in 2016.

his problem in the so-called wild counties. washington, ozaukee and waukesha. in those counties and the fox river valley near green bay there are 60,000 republicans who voted for a republican candidate for state legislature or congress but didn't vote for president trump and he loses the state by 20,000 votes. >> dana: i have a question then. can a trip like the one president biden is about to embark upon, we're watching air force one taking off, can that be a big difference maker in an election in a state with such a tight race? >> well, we do know that one of the things it does have an impact on the actual outcome is how many times and how good the visits are of a candidate. better to go there and to say something of substance than not to go there or to go there and not say anything of substance. yes, it is important to go there a lot and we'll see these guys

in both of them in wisconsin a lot and the question gets to be how powerful is their message? and what we do know is the number one issue in wisconsin is the economy and people are sour on it. the number two issue in wisconsin is, as i believe the poll shows, is immigration. they may be nestled in the northern part of the united states closer to canada than mexico but every state is a border state. >> bill: everything you said plays in trump's favor on paper that's a fact. on the issue of who you trust more on the economy, trump has a nine-point lead. yet he is in a courtroom in new york and how can you figure out, karl, how can you figure out how these trials are playing among people in america? >> well, i think it's hard to say because i think the trials are -- they energize both sides. they energy size the trump

supporters and why he has had a big jump up in cash flow into his campaign the last several months. and they energize the opposition because they say look how bad he is. the question is going to be the people up for grabs in this election are people not excited about either donald trump or joe biden. they really would like a third alternative but they don't see one. the question is how does the trial, win or lose, play out among those people and we don't know. this is why this election is a coin toss. at the end of the day it will decided by a handful of votes in a handful of states in all likelihood. >> dana: thank you for being with us today. here we go again. thank you. >> here we go. >> dana: fox news alert. this just in. the georgia court of appeals has granted the defense's application for an appeal after you remember back -- go back to georgia, fani willis and nathan wade, remember them?

and she has said that they did absolutely nothing wrong. trump's side is saying we want an appeal and the judge mcphee had ruled the special prosecutor nathan wade resign from the case. he had given the fulton county d.a.'s office a choice. willis didn't remove herself from the case. going forward the court will hear defense arguments on why they think fani willis should have been removed from the case. there is no date on this yet and this news about this willingness to grant trump's fani willis appeal is just coming into us. >> bill: a trump lawyer tweeted this. he writes the georgia court of appeals has granted president trump's application for appeal from the trial court's order refusing to disqualify fani willis. it would seem he is injecting optimism into that x message.

>> dana: we are very fortunate. we have ms. habba, one of mr. trump's lawyers coming on. you'll get to hear her first reaction. >> bill: governor desantis is speaking up about the campus riots and how they aren't happening in his state of florida. house republicans, meanwhile, outlining the rising cost of the border policies of president biden as millions of migrants pour into the country illegally. this will be a major issue come november. we'll see how it plays. [shouting] balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪) choice hotels is a family of brands with a hotel for any traveler you want to be...

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>> dana: in moments house budget gammopathyy will hold a hearing on how much the border criers is is costing taxpayers. the u.s. spent $150 billion on migrants last year, over $8 thousand per migrant. that's mind blowing. the chairman of the house budget committee joins us, jody arrington. the cost to taxpayers, california, texas, arizona, new mexico, california $30.9 billion, jody?

>> yes, it is $1 hundred billion for all the states. they bear the disproportionate burden. they can't, as you know, dana, borrow forever or print money. they're either cutting services to their citizens or having to reach into their pocket books and raise taxes. so this is an unsustainable proposition for state and local governments. but that 8,000 plus amount that we are spending as taxpayers as a whole for each illegal immigrant is more than we pay for our most vulnerable citizens in medicaid and more than we pay for our veterans with respect to military retirement. it is unacceptable but also an unsustainable consequence of biden's open border policies. >> dana: you look at kinney county. texas criminal charges, 2020, 134. for a county to come up with an additional 10.5 million is a lot to ask. what are you trying to accomplish today?

>> well, i think most americans at this point understand that the greatest security threat to the american people is our wide open borders. i think they also understand that we have never seen such an epic humanitarian crisis. there is a fiscal impact and we'll highlight that. it is a big burden in addition to the debt that we are carrying, which is at the highest levels in history surpassing world war ii and it is unsustainable and it is a big waste. i put it at the top of the list of wasteful and unnecessary spending and we need to highlight one more element of the border chaos that ensued every since president biden took office. >> dana: money talks and in this case it shouts. thank you for joining us. >> bill: we have fast moving legal developments for donald trump. you got jack smith, stormy daniels and breaking news on fani willis all in one morning.

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tsa never saw the bullets. you are leaving the island with your wife and two kids. they find it in your bag and say you cannot leave. what happened next? >> yeah. i was -- it was found in my checked luggage after a random search and my family was essentially just whisked away without having a chance to say goodbye or explain what was going on. we were completely unaware of what was to follow. >> bill: so the rules for the tsa say you must be in a checked bag, must be securely boxed or in a hard sided case and firearms must be unloaded. you never had a firearm. in fact, from what i read you don't even deny the stuff. you admit you were wrong. you admit your guilt. should that be punished with 12 years in jail? >> i'm a human. we are all humans. i made a very honest mistake. i had no intention, i had no

knowledge that ammunition was in my checked baggage and i don't see where the punishment fits the crime here. >> bill: you are not alone. you have other americans charged with the same crime. it has been going on for a while now. we have three on screen. michael and tyler and ryan. watson changed the game for this law because the strategy had been to soft pedal it and lay back but now you are going on offense. how come? >> well, you know, if you look back at 2023, now into 2024, there have been at least eight americans that we're aware of, potentially more, and we have to take matters into our own hands to fight for our freedoms. i have two young children and a wife at home. i'm a father and provider and for me to not be there for potentially 12 years, i have to

take every measure, every step possible to be there for my wife and my kids. >> bill: you almost reach the point of desperation. from what i understand this law is unique to the turks and caicos. no other island nation in the caribbean has something similar, is that right? >> certainly it's a very strict law. they are trying to combat violence, guns, gun trafficking, etc. , which i have the utmost respect for but when you have a law that takes a one size fits all approach, there are unintended consequences. the four of us, unfortunately, fall into that category that we were not a threat to the island. we are not a threat to the people. we are good, loving, human beings that simply made a mistake. >> bill: i hope the judge goes easy on you. do you have a message for the people in turks and caicos or maybe for the judge? you know they will pick up on this interview.

>> well again, i'm a man of faith, i'm a man of family. just not to let one mistake define myself for the next 12 years. >> bill: well said. brian, good luck. we'll keep track of this and bring you home soon, i hope, okay? thank you, brian. thank you for your time. >> dana reads sports. >> dana: double overtime thriller at madison square garden, the rangers win. >> they score! >> dana: almost midnight and with that goal he became the first rangers player since 1933 to score in five straight playoff games. new york leads the series two games to none. peter was there last night and came home after the first overtime. >> bill: they missed that,