gb news. >> it's 9 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. now this individual. this individual is just assaulted. a gb news cameraman. and it's going to be arrested by police as he , a arrested by police as he, a masked thug, attacked the gb news cameraman . someone over news cameraman. someone over here now who looks as though they're currently being arrested . get back! please massive tension as protesters block a migrant bus bound for the bibby stockholm news. >> oh ! gb news off. gb news off. >> oh! gb news off. gb news off. gb news off gb news. >> and the polls slam shot at 10 pm. tonight. we've got you p.m. tonight. we've got you covered as britain decides also .

covered as britain decides also. yeah, we're going all around the country for those local elections, mayoral elections and a by—election as well. but this left wing comedian sent death threats to someone and still gets work as well. remarkable. now celebrate black friday. >> yeah, which is not a bank houday >> yeah, which is not a bank holiday for my people. >> and, i've got all of tomorrow's papers today. and on my panel this evening, i've got top telegraph columnist allison pearson. and i'm also joined by ex—labour party adviser, matthew laza. get ready, britain. here we go. massive issues at a migrant protest . next. protest. next. >> very good evening to you. it's just gone 9:00. and the top story from the newsroom this

evening. more than 700 migrants arrived in the uk after crossing the channel in a single day. that's a new record for the year so far. the home office figures show 711 people made the journey in 14 boats on wednesday , in 14 boats on wednesday, suggesting an average of 51 people per boat . that brings the people per boat. that brings the total number who've made the crossing since january to nearly now 8300. and that's up 34% compared to the same time last year. compared to the same time last year . meanwhile, a compared to the same time last year. meanwhile, a third man has been charged today with assisting illegal immigration after five migrants, including a seven year old girl, died trying to cross the channel. the defendant, from sudan, was reported to be 23 years old, but dunng reported to be 23 years old, but during his court appearance earlier today, he claimed to be a minor. it comes after two other men were also charged. they too claimed they were 15 and 16 years old, but initial assessments by immigration officers placed them in their early 20s. police have arrested 45 people after a large group of protesters blocked a coach and

tried to stop it, leaving with migrants on board. footage earlier showed officers surrounding that bus and removing several protesters, while others joined the demonstration and sat in the road. the coach was supposed to take seven migrants to the bibby stockholm barge in dorset , but stockholm barge in dorset, but eventually left without them. downing street has called the protests unacceptable . well, protests unacceptable. well, we've heard tonight that a samurai sword attacker who appeared in court has been charged with the murder of a 14 year old schoolboy in north—east london. daniel anjorin was fatally stabbed on tuesday morning as he made his way to school. marcus monzo, a spanish brazilian dual national, is also charged with two counts of attempted murder and injuring four others when he broke into a house where a family was sleeping. the 36 year old has been remanded in custody and he's next due to appear at the old bailey . polls are open he's next due to appear at the old bailey. polls are open for just under an hour left in a series of local elections in many parts of england, and wales, seats are up for grabs on

107 local authorities, while there are also votes for mayors, some police commissioners and there's a by—election in blackpool south. voting is due to end at 10:00 this evening and there will, of course, be full coverage here on gb news throughout the night . meanwhile, throughout the night. meanwhile, the government has apologised to veterans after some were turned away from those polling stations today because their veteran card isn't on the list of official acceptable ids. veterans minister johnny mercer has vowed to do all he can to make sure veteran id cards are added to the list of valid identification. however, labour says the government has had years to make sure the card was included on the official list of valid ids. today's election are the first time that many voters in england and wales have had to present id to vote in the us. president joe biden has called for order on college campuses after violent clashes between police and protesters in california. hundreds of riot

police moved in on the pro—palestine protesters at the ucla campus in los angeles. police there have said that they have made hundreds of arrests overnight during crackdowns on demonstrations there, and meanwhile , here in the uk, meanwhile, here in the uk, students have also set up their own sit in camps in protest against israel's war with hamas students in sheffield, in leeds, newcastle and bristol set up tents outside campus buildings , tents outside campus buildings, with organisers suggesting those demonstrations could spread across the rest of the uk . and across the rest of the uk. and just a quick update before we hand back to patrick on the incident at burley community college in sheffield. we now know that a teenager has been charged with three counts of attempting to cause grievous bodily harm after three people were injured. the 17 year old boy, who can't be named for legal reasons, was arrested yesterday morning when officers were called to burley community college to women in their 20s and a child suffered injuries. but didn't require hospital

treatment . that's the latest treatment. that's the latest from the newsroom. plenty more still to come throughout the evening. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gb news. common shirts. >> welcome along. today, a group of activists decided to barricade a bus that was supposed to be transporting asylum seekers from a hotel in peckham in london to the bibby stockholm . they surrounded the stockholm. they surrounded the vehicle, slashed its tires and wedged bikes underneath. now i'm going to show you a series of clips from that scene. do want to warn you that there may well be some bad language here. the atmosphere was incredibly volatile, and as you'll see at times, it was violent. i'm here in peckham, where protesters have sat in front of a bus. they've slashed the tires of it and they're barricading themselves in front of it. now in an attempt to stop it. taking migrants from a hotel nearby on

board the bibby stockholm. as it currently stands, we understand that the home office have decided to reverse the decision to actually take people to the bibby stockholm . okay, as you bibby stockholm. okay, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, as you can see, it's an incredibly tense atmosphere here. okay and i just want to just go and, we're just going to go and try and see what people make of it, why they're here and what their main motivations are. so let's go and have a chat with them. >> so here, in solidarity with immigrants, i feel that this really is very much a political this is really political manoeuvring in time for the election. it's about grabbing headunes. election. it's about grabbing headlines . it's not really headlines. it's not really anything serious. and i think the government's idea of sending people to rwanda is really, really appalling . really appalling. >> is it specifically about the bibby stockholm or is it about the whole thing? >> well , gb the whole thing? >> well, gb news the whole thing? >> well , gb news off. >> well, gb news off. >> well, gb news off. >> gb news off. gb news off. gb news off. gb news off. gb news off. gb news i just want to know

why you're here. oh. gb news. oh, hello . is it possible to ask oh, hello. is it possible to ask you why you're here? >> oh, guys. okay. off. why strongly about that? >> no comment . >> no comment. >> no comment. >> okay. is it just about the rwanda plan or is it specifically about the bibby stockholm? >> don't speak to journalists . >> don't speak to journalists. okay? all right. fine. i just want to know. pretty straightforward question . okay. straightforward question. okay. >> have you had to take the day off work today ? have you had to off work today? have you had to take the day off work today? okay. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> hello. >> hello . that's why you're here >> hello. that's why you're here today. >> hello. that's why you're here today . gb news want to know why. today. gb news want to know why. >> oh , gb news. you hello, gb >> oh, gb news. you hello, gb views. why you . off. i'm not views. why you. off. i'm not touching it. all right, leave

the camera alone. we just want to chat to people about why they're here. >> one thing that you'll note is that despite the criminal damage that despite the criminal damage that had taken place, the aggressive environment and the massive disruption that this was causing, there didn't appear to be any police in riot gear, no horses , no real police action to horses, no real police action to speak of. but then things did escalate. there's someone over here now who looks as though they're currently being arrested i >> -- >> get back. please get back. >> get back. please get back. >> please. >> please. >> okay. are you okay? are you okay? >> are you okay? okay. >> are you okay? okay. >> ben, are you okay? >> ben, are you okay? >> are you okay? are you okay? shame on you. okay as you can see, this is an incredibly tense atmosphere here, that individual was pushed into the street . was pushed into the street. there's another man on the side. i saw it, i saw it, yeah, and it is on film. >> yes. is on film. >> yes . okay. and there's an >> yes. okay. and there's an individual on the street here. this has the potential to really

boil over. i think the protesters have been chanting there. let him go. let him go. the police at the moment, obviously it's not immediately clear to me if that man needs medical attention or if he's being arrested. i'm not 100% sure as individuals here. okay well, excuse me, you can't do that to the camera. now. do whatever i want. no you can't actually do whatever you want, sir. the police. so the police are taking people away now. so the police have just started taking some people away, as you can see. okay okay. now, my cameraman, my cameraman has just been assaulted. okay ben . okay, been assaulted. okay ben. okay, okay. now, this individual, been assaulted. okay ben. okay, okay. now, this individual , this okay. now, this individual, this individual is just assaulted. a gb news cameraman and is going to be arrested by police. as it currently stands , as you can currently stands, as you can see. oh, the police appear to have just let him walk off. keep rolling. ben. keep rolling. ben. okay this is a there's a really. they're trying to stop the. you

can have your colleague okay. they're trying they're trying to stop that man being arrested at the moment . okay. people will the moment. okay. people will obviously do. sorry. now, please don't gb news gb news. yeah. okay okay. yes you are. >> yes. you're building on ben . >> yes. you're building on ben. >> yes. you're building on ben. >> they want to talk to you. they want to talk to you. okay. so what's happening now? keep rolling. ben. keep rolling. ben, what's happening now? is that a police officer is just talking to my cameraman. so okay. yes. so as we were filming there , a so as we were filming there, a man came up behind my cameraman and slapped him on the back of the head, knocking his glasses off as well. the police did not arrest that man. it appears that he got away . thankfully, my he got away. thankfully, my cameraman is fine and he was able to carry on filming as more activists arrived and more police attended that scene as well . so, as police attended that scene as well. so, as you might have seen in the melee, there , in the melee, there, unfortunately our cameraman here was assaulted, was punched in the back of the head, the individual who did that ran over to this way. the police have done their best to try to get hold of him initially, but then

the protesters have come in, and so we're just waiting to see what happens there. but, yeah, the atmosphere here is incredibly tense as police have started making arrests of some of the people here. what you'll be able to see now is that there is an increased police presence in front of that bus. like i said, they've started to make some arrests. the crowd .are shouting, shame on you! mostly at the police and it appears as though they're not going away any time soon. we'll just keep you updated. but there's an individual being carried into a police van here. shouts of shame on you ! okay, there we go. there on you! okay, there we go. there are people that have formed a human chain around an individual here. >> khalife foxtrot, oscar ! go away! >> who is it that you want them to go off? >> do you not understand? >> do you not understand? >> okay, so i think there's people in this van that they obviously don't want to leave. so they're trying their best. they're trying their best. here we go. they're trying their best to block to block the police van. so nobody who's been

arrested would be able to leave . arrested would be able to leave. that's what the point of this is. we can see there's more and more and more police coming every single minute. now there's a big cordon here in front of the bus. these vans have all turned up okay. and there's , turned up okay. and there's, okay. all right. there's quite a strong feelings here, vans now all blocking the road . and all blocking the road. and there's some people in these vans who have been arrested . vans who have been arrested. again, the crowd are desperate to try to not let them go away to try to not let them go away to detention. but all the people who were by the side of the bus have now been moved. i would imagine that they're probably in some of those vans that we saw before. so the police are trying to clear the way so that this bus can then leave. okay. sorry. shout. so shouts of nick gibb sorry. it says we're the free press free from free from . all

press free from free from. all right, now, look, i appreciate the strength of feeling, but we are here to report on it, okay? we are here to report for the wrong reasons. >> yeah. on this narrative and the oppression of police . the oppression of police. >> continue on. ostree very straight street. pretty straight through straight . through straight. >> so the home secretary tweeted this whilst i was on the scene. actually saying housing markets and hotels cost the british taxpayer millions. we will not allow this small group of students posing for social media to deter us from doing what's right for the british public. unfortunately for mr cleverly though, the fact is that that small group of students did deter him from doing what's right for this country. deter him from doing what's right for this country . and the right for this country. and the fact is that this incident was policed completely differently from the way that the saint george's day event was recently. it's mob rule, isn't it? now i've been surprised by some of the reporting on this. the london evening standard said. video taken on thursday morning showed an apparently peaceful protest , with activists protest, with activists surrounding the coach with unked surrounding the coach with linked arms chanting say it loud, say it clear. refugees are

welcome here. yeah, it also showed a lot of the stuff that i've just shown you there, didn't it, there was a reporter that from the guardian who came over and said that he'd witnessed the assault on my cameraman and said that he thought it was awful. that incident has yet to make it into any guardian articles that i've seen. anyway, the cameraman in question managed to get footage of the man who actually did assault him, and here he is . and assault him, and here he is. and we have . we have. the. yep. so there we go. hopefully he can be identified and actually brought to justice. that footage was just by coincidence. taken a little bit before the incident itself actually happened. now, in case you are wondering, the bus has now left the scene without any asylum seekers on board, and i think it's fair to suggest that maybe the mob won. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening . i am joined by daily evening. i am joined by daily telegraph columnist allison

pearson and ex labour party adviser matthew laza allison. i mean, look , let's be honest, the mean, look, let's be honest, the mob did win there, didn't they? they've managed to completely affect government policy and the way everything was conducted in terms of getting margaret onto the bibby stockholm. >> yeah. look those kids, they're mainly young, aren't they? >> they're turkeys voting for christmas . yes. you talk to any christmas. yes. you talk to any young person in london, patrick, and they'll say there's no housing. they can't afford extortionate rents. they can't find a place to live. and the reason they can't is because, hundreds of thousands of migrants and immigrants are taking the available accommodation and driving up the prices. just got interesting stat. here in london, immigrant households account for nearly two thirds of all private rented accommodation in the capital and 50% of social housing. now that's some legal and some illegal. but as you said, the vast majority of the british people, they want the migrants out. they don't think they belong in this country. out. they don't think they belong in this country . they've belong in this country. they've entered illegally. they're

criminals. they're not asylum seekers. they had a safe place in france to come to . and they in france to come to. and they also want the rwanda plan to work. so i think what we are seeing and we've also seen, haven't we, with the civil service saying, oh no, we can't be party to be this dreadful thing. and i think it's going to become a tremendous kind of moral, political tussle as we approach the election, because sunak needs to make this, you know, seem to be taking a hard line, seem to be deporting the migrants just to finish the chanting, no borders, no nations, no deportations. do they know what a country would be like with no borders? do they understand that they wouldn't have any public services that worked ? they wouldn't have any worked? they wouldn't have any accommodation. so these people are totally delusional, and they do not represent what the bulk of british people want. >> now, look, i don't want to too be harsh on the rank and file police officers here. they do have a difficult job. i don't think any of them wanted to be there. okay. and i do certainly

think as well, when it came to the issue with my cameraman, i think that the officer that we saw in that clip trying to grab the guy and let him go, i don't think he'd seen the incident himself. so there. but obviously other police officers did and all of that stuff. so i really don't want to seem like i'm coming down like a ton of bricks here. but what i will say is that that incident was policed completely differently to some other incidents that we've seen, like what was going on at saint george's day and that that really, from what i could tell, was more violent , caused more was more violent, caused more criminal damage and was having a much wider impact on the community around it. >> well, they were caught on the hop, which is a bit surprising as it's all been pre—planned, pre advertised and pre—spun by the home secretary that these, you know, they're going to move people around. and so i mean you don't have to be a genius to see the posts on instagram and on twitter telling people, you know the sort of hard left mob rule where to go. look, i don't believe in mob rule. whoever the mob is, i believe in democracy. i mean, there are some ironies about that footage, i live about two miles up the road. i know that area. well, i've been in that area. well, i've been in that corner shop that you were outside and that. and peckham is about 70, black is

afro—caribbean community. absolutely beating heart of peckham. i don't think i saw one afro—caribbean face in that crowd, which is not representative of the community in peckham, that i know it was a rental mob, but the concern for me is that when i turned up, there , initially there were more there, initially there were more protesters than police, but there was a decent enough balance where if the police had really taken swift, decisive action initially , there was no action initially, there was no way that needed to end up becoming as big a deal as it actually was. >> but they spent a lot of time standing around, and this is why i blame people higher up. >> why weren't they right up there? >> why weren't they there? >> why weren't they there? >> because they're at risk. >> because they're at risk. >> because the issue is now that sends a message, doesn't it? you can you can stop any people on one of these migrant buses. >> but as matthew said, it was clearly very well planned because they came on these lime bikes. they put the bikes under the tyres of the bus, they slashed the tires of the bus. it was it was a planned operation. >> i hope lime are finding them for the damage to the bikes. i know somebody in lime. i get on to them. >> but it was, it was obviously very well planned. and as you

say, patrick, what was the what was the sort of hierarchy of the of the met doing? they managed, as you said, for the saint george's day rally. they managed to have to be there in great force with horses and using to my mind unsuitable force for what had not been was a was a celebration of england's patron saint. and so on, and i we constantly worry , i think about constantly worry, i think about this two tier policing, don't we. going soft on certain elements here. these that we people want. those migrants moved as james cleverly said in his in his statement, it's costing 6 million a day. it is people like that in a better. >> but i think james covid needs to take responsibility for this shambles today because it's clearly it was a home office operation. and i mean, you know , operation. and i mean, you know, so the government has to take responsibility for not doing this in a more effective way. the protesters need to take responsibility for their outrageous actions, but it is a fundamental embarrassment that a group of people who are for the vast majority of them, i think, probably were students, there's definitely a cross, a few

retirees mixed in. >> yeah, yeah, there's definitely a crossover in the venn diagram between the people who are part of just stop oil and people who are part of the, palestine . i mean, absolutely. palestine. i mean, absolutely. you can tell by the badges that were there as well. >> i mean, those of us on the left, we get it all the time because we get the hard left attacking us. so. >> but but my point is, it's embarrassing that those people can actually grind a government operation to a halt in the way they did and make it go on all day after the break. we'll be back to that shocking incident in peckham. but still to come, we're also going to be discussing double standards in comedy, and ann widdecombe joins before we start that countdown now to the local and the mayoral elections and the big by—election in blackpool as well. keep your

gb news. welcome back. now before the break, i showed you the protests today in peckham . this was as a today in peckham. this was as a group of activists decided that they wanted to stop a bus full of asylum seekers being taken from a migrant hotel there to the bibby stockholm. let's have a little refresher , shall we? of a little refresher, shall we? of some of the things that happened. there's someone over here now who looks as though they're currently being arrested . please, if that. >> please. >> please. >> okay. are you okay? are you okay? are you okay? okay. ben, are you okay? are you okay? are you okay? shame on you. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> yes. okay. so that was just,

one of the incidents will be reminding you some of those clips throughout the course of the show, but. but it ties in with what i'm going to be talking about now, because that really was a small renter mob that managed to grind a government policy to a whole. but what about the civil servants? because they are threatening to scupper the rwanda plan from actually within that echelon of governments, aren't they? with an unprecedented judicial review , unprecedented judicial review, they claim that they could be in breach of international law if they implement the prime minister's safety on rwanda act? well, crazy , but hardly exactly well, crazy, but hardly exactly unexpected stuff from our whitehall mandarins. it's just ridiculous. labour, meanwhile, appears to be open to giving 50,000 rwanda bound asylum seekers the chance to remain in the uk, now under a new law brought in by the tories last yeah brought in by the tories last year. those that arrive illegally in britain are blocked from submitting asylum claims. but according to reports that emerged yesterday, labour might scrap that law and blow the hinges clean off the immigration floodgates that are already wide open and flapping in the gale . open and flapping in the gale. here to discuss this again is my top team. tonight is daily

telegraph columnist allison pearson and former labour party adviser matthew laza . allison. adviser matthew laza. allison. i'll start with you. first of all, on the civil service side of things, if that's okay, because, you know, i look at what that was there, which was when i was in peckham, which is, you know, this, this, this rental group of activists there who were able to find i just wonder what hang on a minute, if we're also getting that kind of stuff from within our civil service just in a slightly more official capacity. >> yeah, well, you do wonder what's what's going on behind the scenes, don't you? i mean, look, there's a huge concern really, that's been going on for quite a long time that a lot of the civil service are just leftie activists, basically. and we've seen successive conservative home secretaries from priti patel to suella braverman, basically any attempt to get to grips with immigration is undermined by these people squealing , is undermined by these people squealing, you is undermined by these people squealing , you know, we had squealing, you know, we had dominic raab trying to trying to do something about the equalities act. they got him thrown out for throwing a tomato noisily. you know, these people, they just come up with vexatious claims and they won't stop at anything. patrick. and the basis of our system, the civil

service, is they are scrupulously impartial and they clearly are not. and now this attempt to say, oh, we won't be party to this horrible plan to send people to rwanda , which has send people to rwanda, which has the support of the majority of the support of the majority of the british people . they want to the british people. they want to make it make it work. and it's just it's just frankly, this is really it's very it's extremely wrong. and i, you know, but it's out of control now . they are out of control now. they are they are out of control today. >> what we saw there was a fringe group of very hardline people able to stop a bus to commit criminal damage on a bus to do all sorts of stuff, honestly, and stop what was a government policy from happening. and i think that that is also taking place within the civil service. what chance have we got if a government enacts a policy that is popular, that is voted through the house of commons eventually gets through the lords, and then it still can't happen? >> well, the key thing is they're not saying they won't implement it. what they want is the courts to clarify if they will be breaking the law if they do. and i think that's fair

enough because, you know, as civil servants, they have to abide by the civil service code, which is the bible of, you know, they have to abide by and they want to make sure that the government's opting out of the echr with the rwanda bill isn't going to put them at loggerheads with the civil service code. so what we must hope is if the courts decide that it's okay and that they can go ahead, that they then don't try and block their first loyalty should be to their first loyalty should be to the british legal system. >> and the rwanda act has just gone. has just been passed. >> well, it's the human rights act that's in british law that they'll be worried about. yeah, but i mean, it is on the edge. >> one of the things that gets me is, well, when you see these protests and you know, why aren't they all at work? i mean, we know why they're not all at work, don't we? there was one chap who we didn't have time to put it in that edit there, but i mean, it is absolutely cracking footage. hopefully i'll play it tomorrow. who was sat in front of the bus, who was one of the older people there and said to him, you can i why aren't you at work? and he said, well, i was working from home today and i saw that this protest was taking place and i thought i'd just

come and sit in the bus. this was probably about 1 or 2 pm, so he's not doing that much working from home. but i did ask 1 or 2 of them what they were up to. >> no comment. >> no comment. >> okay, is it just about the rwanda plan or is it specifically about the bibby stockholm? don't speak to journalists. >> okay. >> okay. >> all right. fine. i just want to know pretty straightforward question. okay. have you had to take the day off work today? have you had to take the day off work today , it turns out he work today, it turns out he hadnt work today, it turns out he hadn't really. no, but, but i'm more focused now, though on on the potential for labour to really throw those floodgates open. when i spoke to robert jenrick former immigration minister, he said he was advised by the civil service that he could just clear the backlog by giving asylum seeker amnesty to everyone. he warned me that that would also be advised to whoever his version in the labour party is, if and when that happens , i is, if and when that happens, i wonder if they'll do it. alison. >> well, they've just said that, rishi said last week. oh, we have cleared the historical backlog of about 100,000, and various senior people have told

me that essentially, they've upped the rate of acceptance hugely in a very short space of time , which is not safe because time, which is not safe because there's no monitoring of those people. it's literally like, you want to come in tick, tick, tick. yeah, i've always thought late labour would come in and effectively have have a, you know, have an amnesty. essentially the only thing, patrick, i do think is that a lot they've got to be careful because a lot of the labour red wall voters that they're likely to get back. we're going to see this tonight with the local elections. a lot of the of these places, they are very, very concerned somewhere like blackpool. blackpool south, which is obviously a by—election. people, there are migrants, the local asylum centre. this is a big issue. so i think starmer will have to be tread a very fine line because if he is seen to be to, you know, let them all stay, then they will immediately start a lot of ructions. i think . lot of ructions. i think. >> yeah, i mean, these reports essentially coming out yesterday that appear to suggest that labour might be open to giving

50,000 rwanda bound asylum seekers the chance to remain in britain. matthew, would you like to respond to that? >> yeah, well, it's not the key thing is it's not saying the 50,000 people can stay in britain. it's saying that they're going to be properly processed first. and if they shouldn't be here, that they are going to be removed . one of the going to be removed. one of the problems is that alison has absolutely said is at the moment the tories are doing two things. either they can't find the asylum seekers every week we see another cohort of several thousand have literally been lost, or they're just sitting in hotels at the expense of the british taxpayer while they're not processed the claims. so labour will get 1000 more people in to get the backlog down. it doesn't mean an amnesty. it doesn't mean an amnesty. it doesn't mean an amnesty. it doesn't mean doing what the tories are doing, which is just they would be allowed to submit asylum claims. >> this is the thing they would be at the moment. they wouldn't be. >> they would be. they would be a change. but no, it is a change. but it doesn't mean necessarily that more people will stay. ultimately more people could actually be sent home. so yes. but because because i mean, some of the, you know, a few of them will have some of them will have genuine claims. but we and therefore it's very important that we

don't miss out those people who do. but we need a system that works, patrick, not a system that leaves people in hotels. >> okay. all right. i mean, the key change for me there is that conceivably then 50,000 more people would be able to apply for asylum when they wouldn't currently be, but they're not going to leave the country at the moment anyway, because the tories have got no way of getting rid of them. and someone will. students might turn up and stop it from happening. so we're all against them and we are all against them. no. not really. now coming up, is there a double standard when it comes to comedy and what does get you cancelled these days as well? so two comedians are going to be going head to head on that, because one comedian thought he'd make a death threat against someone and he was still booked that night. i mean, the mind boggles and french president emmanuel macron has called all european nationalists hidden brexiteers. former conservative minister ann widdecombe will give her usual no nonsense analysis. that's coming your way. and as you were heanng coming your way. and as you were hearing at 10 pm. right here, the countdown, the clocks on your screen there, we're not far off now at 10 pm, the polls snapshot, and we will be giving you a whizz through of the local elections, the mayoral elections and that by—election as well. so keep it

gb news. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight we're on gb news. and it's time for the head to head. not long now until the polls shut . but before that, we polls shut. but before that, we thought we'd squeeze this in because comedian dane baptiste . because comedian dane baptiste. he made death threats on social media towards what appears to be a jewish woman. he said a quick

message to the zionist comedian stalking my family's page. i want you to sit down with your husband and kids and imagine what their lives will be without you, because north london is a quick trip to make and a think tank will have to be an actual tank will have to be an actual tank to keep you safe from me . tank to keep you safe from me. ask about and comedians will tell you i will be at your literal doorstep. your agent won't keep you safe, and i'll sit in prison while your family sits in the cemetery. first and last warning your act is dumb, but don't be a dumb woman for your own safety. well, i mean, there was a little bit of consternation about this. josh, harry was tweeting about it as well. yeah, i mean, making the point really , that dane was point really, that dane was threatening to murder a jewish colleague and, was allowed to carry on performing. he wasn't cancelled when we are against cancelled when we are against cancel culture here @gbnews, but it does seem like there was quite an extreme threat. he hasn't appeared to face any backlash. really whatsoever. so i want to know, is there a double standard when it comes to comedy, and whether or not you

can get cancelled if you're only on the left or you're on the right? i'm joined now by comedians. josh howie and dave chaunen comedians. josh howie and dave chauner. shapps. thank you very much. look, josh , i'll start much. look, josh, i'll start with you there because you've already been quoted in this piece. do you think there is a double standard when it comes to comedy and who gets cancelled and who doesn't? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> frankly, it's a shame that this kind of tribalism exists, and i'm not a fan of cancel culture at all. but this is, you know, threats of murder and that takes it to a whole new level. so there has been tribalism on the left. and if i'm honest, within comedy and as a traditional lefty in the comedy world, i've been perfectly happy being as smug as everybody else . being as smug as everybody else. but then when my eyes were kind of awoken to , corbynism and of awoken to, corbynism and suddenly that tribalism worked against me. it was it was, yeah, it was eye opening and disturbing. >> yeah. dave, i mean, your views on this, i wonder if there was, you know, for right wing comedian and tweeted actual death threats to someone. i'm

not convinced they'd be working again, would they? >> you see, i'm not going to specifically talk about dane at all. but what i would say is i think i don't think there is any sort of , underhandedness. sort of, underhandedness. i mean, i'll be honest, patrick, i've been trying to get cancelled for years, but, like, nobody knows who i am, so it's hard to do that. i don't think there is a double standard when it comes to right and left, and you know what? i actually think most people don't really fit into right and left. actually, i think most people have different views. whether you're basing on it like socially or whether you're talking about gender. i don't think people are just right and just left. >> yeah, i agree, i mean, i agree with you, dave. >> sorry. i in that sense , and i >> sorry. i in that sense, and i think a lot of the issues we talked about on gb news and the wider public aren't actually left or right issues at all, but there's no doubt that the stand up comedy world is very much overwhelmingly left wing and is dominated by, you know, thinking

the right things, doing the right things, saying the right things, and we've seen that over the last years. and i didn't think it was that way until, until i sort of evidenced that for myself, where certain issues would come up and you'd see people just not being brave, not speaking out about it, not joking about it. >> i mean , just this guy, dane >> i mean, just this guy, dane baptiste, has been on the telly a lot. he's got quite a big profile, really often commenting on political views, often from the left, some might say far left. yeah. and you see this message here about i want you to sit down with your husband and kids, imagine what their lives would be like without you saying he's essentially going to turn up on their doorstep. the agent won't keep you safe. i mean, thatis won't keep you safe. i mean, that is that is vile, dave. no as i say, i'm not commenting on dane, but to speak to josh's point about, sort of people don't talk about certain things. >> i literally did a gig yesterday and someone was

talking about how they were mocking someone who was disabled, but they were doing it in a kind of inclusive way because they would mock anyone else. i saw people who were talking like jewish acts, talking like jewish acts, talking about palestine very openly . i talking about palestine very openly. i don't think there is a double standard. i genuinely don't. >> okay. but yet. >> okay. but yet. >> yet we see jerry sadowitz being cancelled from his show in edinburgh . we've seen other edinburgh. we've seen other comics, receiving abuse for their material in the past. and also you've seen very sad self—censorship. i will say. i think it's weird. dave that you won't comment about dane when you can't just say, look , it's you can't just say, look, it's disgusting. it's mental, i will also say dane has been on gb news. he's been on headliners a couple of times , but this is couple of times, but this is beyond his , his rhetoric. and, beyond his, his rhetoric. and, you know, those are real threats. it's unhinged . threats. it's unhinged. >> i also think there's something to be said as well in a social media age, whatever you look at, whatever makes you angry ' look at, whatever makes you angry , your feed serves up more. angry, your feed serves up more. so i think that actually a lot

of right wing comics get away with a hell of a lot more than left wing comics. but for someone who probably has the opposite inclination, they probably think that left wing comics get hit with so much more than right wing comics. i think it's because of the news that is being served to you is now. it's not. >> but we've had comedians. yeah. josh josh, we've had comedians cancel because they believe in biological fact. we've had ricky gervais copping a load of stuff because he made a load of stuff because he made a joke about how it's mostly lads coming across the english channel. i mean, you've got a guy there. that guy will be back on the bbc probably soon. he'll be back working. working. >> i, i might disagree with you there, patrick. i think it's terrible that he was gigging that night at, you know, there was half a day that happened and he should never have been on stage that night, he should never have been on stage that night , the police stage that night, the police should have been directly involved. i have to say the met police still haven't been around to the woman concerned and interviewed her yet, which is more than 24 hours later. but his agents have dropped him, but what i've not seen on the circuit , and what i've not seen on the circuit, and i think that's it's

addresses the point that you're raising is condemnation from my colleagues to protect a woman , a colleagues to protect a woman, a jewish woman who has received a death threat from one of her colleagues. and in a in a in an era of microaggressions and comics, stepping up and to make a brave stand on so many issues. yeah, but compared to this, they're they're nothing yet they, they're still silent or they, they're still silent or the majority. a few have said something, but a lot have been silent. >> all right, look, both of you, we are we are going to have to leave it there. i'm afraid, because we're massively pressed for time. that clock in the bottom corner of the screen is ticking away as we close in on the polls being shut. but both of you look. thank you, thank you, thank you. so, look, i want to know, okay? is there a double standard when it comes to comedy? what do you reckon about all of this? are we going to your views shortly. but i will just read out dane baptiste's latest post, which is in the recent past, which was two days ago. but anyway, in the recent past, i've received a number of

threatening and abusive messages from accounts accusing me of anti—semitism and having pro—palestinian views. i have a new family , and my partner made new family, and my partner made me aware that some of the same people were monitoring our instagram account. in a massive error of judgement, i posted an excessive and impulsive response, hoping to dissuade anybody monitoring my family, i made a point to say zionist and not jewish, but i appreciate how disturbing, threatening and incendiary that language is. i would categorically state i have no ill intention towards the jewish community, and never have ihave jewish community, and never have i have a loving family, of which i'm massively protective of. i reacted poorly and emotionally to a perceived threat , with no to a perceived threat, with no considered thought to the consequences . coming up. the consequences. coming up. the poles are about to snap shut for local elections across the country and the blackpool by—election as well . we'll be by—election as well. we'll be looking into all of that. but next, french president emmanuel macron has called all european nationalist hidden brexiteers former conservative minister ann widdecombe will be giving her hot take and that

next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news now, french president emmanuel macron has spoken out, saying that brexit has impoverished the uk and failed to solve our immigration problems. he didn't stop there and went on to say that all european nationalists were actually hidden brexiteers. ahead of the european elections in june this year. was that all? no. apparently these hidden brexiteers have also distorted the european debate and have glossed over the risks of leaving. joining me now is former conservative minister ann widdecombe. ann, thank you very much. and what do you make of this from emmanuel macron casting shade on britain and brexiteers? >> well, i like the way he says hidden brexiteers. i would rather hope that if there really was a movement in any country to leave the eu, that it would be anything but hidden. but i would also say to any country considering leaving the eu, do not do it the way that britain did it. have a clean break and negotiate from scratch, because otherwise you end up as we have

ended up, which is still under the eu thumb . the eu thumb. >> okay. is emmanuel macron got any right to talk to us about how brexit hasn't allowed to control immigration? i mean, isn't his government responsible for half the people coming across the channel? >> he's allowed to express a view. but i mean it is farcical. where now the fourth largest exporter before brexit, we were the seventh largest. you can point to all the trade deals that we've done. so to suggest that we've done. so to suggest that brexit has impoverished britain is a nonsense. and as for blaming brexit for the migration levels, the fact is that before brexit we were hardly sending anybody. i think it was about 30 people, back to the safe country that they'd come from, so no, he's completely wrong. he knows it. why is he so defensive about brexit? if he thinks that brexit hasn't actually worked, why is he so defensive? >> absolutely. great point . i >> absolutely. great point. i think he's previously said he wouldn't give them a referendum

because the french would vote to leave as well. so that kind of reveals all. can i just nip nip us north of the border? and if that's all right, and just have a little chat about what's going on with the snp? so john swinney looks set to become scotland's next first minister after kate forbes confirmed she would not challenge him for the snp leadership . it's the former leadership. it's the former deputy first minister and party leader. he announced his intention to succeed humza yousaf. what's your take on this? i mean, kate forbes seems to be someone who's eminently more electable. no >> well, there isn't exactly a rush to become the leader of the snp, is there? and i think that speaks volumes. i mean, why would you rush to lead a lost cause, so i'm not surprised that the competition isn't, you know, exciting , for the leadership. exciting, for the leadership. but whoever gets it , it will be but whoever gets it, it will be the same old snp which has left scotland in a very bad state, no , indeed. i'm hoping that i might be able to play you a couple of clips in a minute or two from an event that i was at

earlier on in peckham, but i'll just stick with the snp stuff for now because kate forbes is big barrier in the last round of elections that appeared to be the fact that she was actually a christian who had conservative christian who had conservative christian beliefs. okay. do you do you not find that slightly bizarre that, you know, in, in a christian country that that could be a barrier to someone? >> i find it extremely disappointing, but i don't find it remotely surprising , we know it remotely surprising, we know from what happened, for example, to tim farron when he was leading the liberals. yes, we know that it is very hard, to be an outspoken christian and to actually stand stand up for what you believe. and to be, you know, elected to high political office. so it doesn't surprise me. it does disappoint me . me. it does disappoint me. >> okay, let's just, i'm just going to play, like, some images, basically, of this protest that i was at earlier on.andi protest that i was at earlier on. and i want your view on it, anne. right. so i think you sat and watched what went on earlier on in the show of, yeah . people on in the show of, yeah. people blocking a bus that was supposed

to be taking asylum seekers , to be taking asylum seekers, illegal immigrants to the bibby stockholm barge and, and mob rule one today. >> well, that again , even though >> well, that again, even though it's disappointing, is not surprising either, because the police have been very, very, very, very weak about the way that they've dealt with those protests. now, if that bus is on a lawful occasion , then then a lawful occasion, then then they are obstructing the law, and therefore they really ought to be arrested. >> i mean, the police say that they've arrested 45, people, but, i mean, i was there for a couple of hours. the whole thing went on for hours, and they'd already slashed the tires, put the lime bikes underneath the bus, and blockaded it and done absolutely everything else for hours. by the time that 45 people were arrested, what would you have done differently? quick, decisive action. and where are the police horses? where's the riot gear? or are they just protesting about the wrong thing? patrick.

>> patrick, where is the water cannon which boris installed in london and was then, vetoed by theresa may, what we actually needis theresa may, what we actually need is some pretty drastic action to get the message over. you do not violently obstruct, any lawful thing that has happened. >> i'm widdicombe. where's the water cannon? that fantastic note to leave. leave on there. and matt , as ever, note to leave. leave on there. and matt, as ever, as former conservative minister ann widdecombe . now, as you will be widdecombe. now, as you will be seeing in that clock in the corner of your screen , there we corner of your screen, there we are ticking over to the polls closing. thank you very much , closing. thank you very much, ann. but next. yes, the polls are about to close for local elections right across the country, the blackpool by—election. we're going to be looking into all of that, the mayoral election as well. will sadiq khan's days in office finally be over? we're not quite sure. but but in all about 5.5 minutes time now, we'll be nipping you around the country. i've got politicians, i've got

pollsters, i've got everything for you . it's going to be an for you. it's going to be an absolutely electric final hour to this show, so make sure you stay tuned. i'll see you in just a couple of minutes . a couple of minutes. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. it's time for your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there's going to be quite a bit of rain around tomorrow, but before then, the risk of some heavy thundery downpours overnight in association with a front that's still lingering across central parts at the moment, and we do still have some blustery conditions because of an area of low pressure over the near continent. but i think it's the thundery downpours across central parts of england into wales, where we're most likely to see any issues. there's some of the showery rain will continue as we go overnight, and we'll likely see a few bursts pushing in from the north sea further north as well. but many areas towards the north—west of the uk staying dry. some clear skies but for most are

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gb news. >> it's just over. one minute to go until the polls slam shut. and what is said to be a bumper day of local elections? a by—election and mayoral elections. it really is all to play elections. it really is all to play for because britain is about to decide. did you vote? who did you vote for? make sure that you let us know over the course of this next hour, i'm going to be having it stacked full of pollsters, politicians and mps. we're going to hear from labour voices, tory voices, reform voices as well. i think the big question is going to be frankly , over the course of the frankly, over the course of the next six, seven hours, right here on gb news. at the end of it is rishi sunak still going to actually have a job? that clock is ticking away now. we are just a few seconds away from it actually being 10 pm. and the voting, the polling will close andifs voting, the polling will close and it's getting there now, isn't it ? yes. all right. look,

isn't it? yes. all right. look, it is very, very, very close to 10 pm, which means voting will be closing in britain. and you , be closing in britain. and you, the people will have decided . the people will have decided. well, let's look at where the opinion polls are saying that we are nationally. yougov has labour on 44. there we go. the polls have just slammed shut. yougov has labour on 44. okay, the conservatives they are down on 13. reform are holding firm on 13. reform are holding firm on 15% and the lib dems are at 10. the greens they're on about eight. but tonight is about this. the election is taking place in 107 local authorities right across the country, with 2636 seats up for grabs. voters will also choose the mayor of london, the london assembly members and ten other mayors outside the capital. so here are

some of the predictions again from yougov. so we're expecting labour to be making significant gains across the country. labour are likely to take control of milton keynes and hyndburn apparently, and coming close in each of tamworth, thurrock and walsall. north east lincolnshire is moving significantly towards labour as well, we're hearing, and we expect labour to advance in rugby. it is not out of the question actually, that labour might take control of rugby, but it isn't all bad news for the conservatives, though. no, we expect them to retain control of solihull council and potentially make gains in reigate and banstead. elsewhere, though, we expect little to change in each of colchester as well, which could make that a tory hole. but tonight is also about the mayoral elections, isn't it? yes, and we've picked out some of the key ones for you. let's start in the west midlands. here we are. so we've got andy street who's the conservative candidate, richard parker is for labour sunny virk the liberal

democrats for vaughan, harpenden as the greens and reform uk's elaine ruth williams, as well as ahmed yaqoob there, who is an independent. so that's where we are in the west midlands. bit about andy street. okay, so he was first elected as mayor for the west midlands back in 2017. he was re—elected for a second term in 2021, and the mayor of west midlands represents around 2.8 million people, so it is seriously quite a big role actually. across seven local council areas, constituent members of the west midlands combined authority are birmingham, coventry, dudley , birmingham, coventry, dudley, sandwell, solihull, walsall, wolverhampton. so big parts of the country. let's go over now to have a look at tees valley, shall we. so the candidates are conservatives ben houchen. we've also got labour's chris mcewan and liberal democrats simon thorley. so those are the people who have been pounding the stump, as it were, that ben houchen was first elected as mayor for tees valley in 2017. he was re—elected for a second term in 2021, in a landslide victory. so this really is going to be one to watch tonight,

isn't it? now the mayor leads the tees valley combined authority, which covers the five boroughs of darlington , boroughs of darlington, hartlepool, middlesbrough, redcar and cleveland and stockton on tees as well. these are going to be great bellwether areas for how a general election could go. some quite big brexit backing areas there. but here's the big one. isn't it. yes, the mayor of london well, it's pretty much a straight shooter between sadiq khan and the conservative susan hall. it is expected that sadiq khan will win another term as the mayor of london, but labour are obviously slightly rattled. wes streeting went viral for tweeting this tweet last night. a win for susan hall and the conservatives is a win for racists , white is a win for racists, white supremacists and islamophobes. the world over. probably a bit of an exaggeration. that's isn't it? susan hall's campaign has been fought from the gutter with dangerous and divisive politics. london. we cannot let her win. vote sadiq khan . he absolutely vote sadiq khan. he absolutely copped it for putting that out there . but what will the results

there. but what will the results be? well, we'll tell you. weren't we a little bit later on.and weren't we a little bit later on. and also tonight there is a by—election in blackpool south. so their previous mp, conservative scott benton , conservative scott benton, resigned, some facts here about scott benton. he was elected as blackpool south conservative mp in 2019 with a majority of 3690. that was part of that boris wave , wasn't it, that we saw there. he was suspended, though, last year after being embroiled in a lobbying scandal. now mps approved benton suspension in february 2024 without a vote and then he announced his resignation in march this year, which has triggered the by—election. so this is one to watch, though , because reform watch, though, because reform have thrown the kitchen sink at blackpool south. what share of the vote will they get out? well, that is how everything is shaping up for you this evening . shaping up for you this evening. the scene is set for a very busy night here on gb news because we are your election channel and we go live now to blackpool south with our north west reporter sophie reaper sophie, thank you

very, very much. so you are at the count there. what's going on? where you are. >> well, as you say, patrick, the polls have now closed and the polls have now closed and the count has begun here in blackpool south behind me. now, our viewers may be forgiven for thinking that this may be the typical labour red wall seat. but actually, for much of his existence throughout the 20th century, it was actually a conservative seat. it wasn't until 1997 that labour took hold of it for a couple of decades . of it for a couple of decades. but as you mentioned there in 2019, the general election, scott benton took it back for the conservative party now, again, as you mentioned, this by—election was triggered due to the lobbying scandal involving scott benton , which meant the scott benton, which meant the this constituency will need to replace him. and that is why we are here tonight for this by—election. now as a constituency, it's electorate as of last year was around 56,000. so that should be quite a turnout. however, it has notoriously quite a low turnout. so we'll be bringing you all the

latest on that of course, as the evening goes on, as this count comes in. now, i actually got to spend some time here in blackpool south earlier on this week and got to speak to some of the local residents and constituents about exactly what it was that they want from their new mp. there are, of course, nine candidates standing in this by—election now, rather interestingly, quite a few people who i spoke to in blackpool south this week told me that, first of all, quite a few people didn't actually know there was a by—election taking place, which i think speaks volumes about the political situation up in the various parts of the country. for example, the north west, where poverty and deprivation are really quite rife. a lot of people also saying that they wouldn't be voting simply because they don't have a valid form of id now, of course , as we form of id now, of course, as we head into this general election yean head into this general election year, that's really rather an interesting point that people feel that it's not worth getting a voter id, and that could really have an impact as we head

into that general election . but into that general election. but one real thing that stood out to me when i was speaking to constituents is the is the level of poverty , whomever that new mp of poverty, whomever that new mp is, which we expect to find out in around in a few hours time. they've said between 2 and 5 am. whomever it is that's a.m. whomever it is that's successful, they want to really tackle the issue of deprivation that blackpool south really does suffer with. >> absolutely. look, sophie, thank you very, very much. that's sophie reaper there from blackpool south. we're going to be seeing a lot of sophie tonight. we're also going to be going back there a little bit later on as well, because i believe that the leader of reform uk, richard tice, is currently positioned there. but i'm going to get the views of my panel now. top daily telegraph columnist allison pearson. we've got former labour party adviser matthew laza as well. can i also just remind our viewers that very shortly we're going to be heanng very shortly we're going to be hearing from shaun bailey, a man who sadly been missing from this show for quite a while because he's been standing as an assembly member in london. so we haven't been able to use him, but he will be on this show soon

and we're going to be hearing from pollsters as well. right, allison? too early to say yet, but we've seen the national election result, polling there . election result, polling there. the tories 26 points behind laboun the tories 26 points behind labour. well we're going to be giving you all of the up to the minute coverage right here on gb news. how bad could things be for rishi sunak tonight, do you think? >> well, that yougov poll is absolutely. >> i mean, the tories are polling at 18, which is sort of lord bucket territory, isn't it really . there. the gap now with really. there. the gap now with reform is three points. i mean it's absolutely it's absolutely dreadful. yeah i you know, i think it could be absolutely terrible. they're probably on course to lose 400 seats if they lose many more than that then you know rish should be out the doorin you know rish should be out the door in 48 hours, i think. do you think? well, i know a lot of conservative mps are have been waiting to see these results. they'll be looking very closely at how reform is performing in various areas . they'll be various areas. they'll be looking at the vote share. it's interesting. patrick matthew will back me up on this because

i've been doing a lot of swotting you the local election results don't map on exactly to the national election results, but it's a good predictor of 80% of voters preferences. all right. so this this is a pretty good pretty good prediction. my strong prediction will be low turnout . people are massively turnout. people are massively disillusioned. the key thing is going to be can labour now convert its huge lead into people turning out for it. but we'll have a lot of tory mps tonight and tomorrow looking to see are they going to move against him? and if they do , by against him? and if they do, by this time next week it'll all be kicking off. >> well. what do you recommend? over the course of the next hour we're going to be dissecting different individual bits of these elections. there's a big picture stuff for now. yeah. what do you make of rishi sunak's future if some of these polls are to be believed? >> so i think that rishi sunak's future depends on the two mayoral elections that you looked at, in particular the tees valley and the west midlands. i think they're very tough fights for labour. people have been assuming labour is going to win, but they're very

tough fights because both of the candidates have huge local followings and they've both run without mentioning the conservative party. if you look at their literature online, you know, it's not even in tory colours, can i just say that andy's andy street in west midlands sent out a sent out a letter with a quote from boris johnson saying forget the government. >> yeah, absolutely. so i and so i think those i think oddly, some of the journalists think that those are going to be the big, the big sort of deciders for rishi. i actually think as alison says, it's down in the council results that we're going to get first. actually we're going to get some of them overnight tonight. and crucially in blackpool, as we were hearing there, blackpool is an absolutely vital seat. it was a seat that labour won under tony blair for the first time, and then lost in the depths of the corbyn years. it's exactly the sort of seat that keir starmer needs to win a government. so i look at blackpool and the council results. i think the mayoral elections may skew the picture a little bit because it's so personality driven. >> yeah. okay. so just talk to me a little bit about these by—election results. and so we've got blackpool south. we've just heard from that reformer

have thrown the kitchen sink at blackpool. so they don't really care. i don't think too much about the local elections reform from what they don't have that many candidates because they have the infrastructure. >> know something that's very key is ben houchen in tees valley reform. are not standing against. >> that's one of the reasons that labour that gives him that gives him a very good shot. >> whereas andy street is up against reform. matthew and i were talking earlier . the reform were talking earlier. the reform candidate in blackpool south is a lovely local fellow, mark butcher, who is a christian organiser of a soup kitchen. he's a campaigner against homelessness . so he's not your homelessness. so he's not your sort of typical reform type. i think he he could potentially do very well. and if we now see reform in some seats coming second and displacing the conservatives into third, then that's going to be again, major ructions really. >> and we didn't mention greater manchester mayor, which is up with andy burnham leading labour figure. but there the conservative candidate defected to reform. so it looks pretty clear the reform is going to come second in one form or another. either the conservative or the reform labour label. so i

think absolutely watching what reform are doing , in, in the reform are doing, in, in the nonhis reform are doing, in, in the north is, is, is a really key thing to watch , particularly in blackpool. >> and what we have to watch as well is the conservatives possibly losing more than 400 seats. can we just say there's up and down the country? there are men and women councillors that do a fantastic job, you know, don't get much credit . know, don't get much credit. they work hard with the streets and the playgrounds. some of them, many , many hundreds of them, many, many hundreds of conservative councillors, some of whom are friends of mine , are of whom are friends of mine, are going to lose their seats tonight. and god bless you because you do a fantastic job. and it's not your fault that the government has been so bad, do you think they'll turn their fire on rishi? i mean, you know, this is this is the danger, isn't it? well, it bubbles up from those people, you know, and all the local people supporting them. >> but if it gets. okay. so this is the this is the other thing. and again i'm going to stress over the course of the next what 45 minutes? i'm going to be bringing you hopefully exit polls. i've certainly got, good pollster on i'm going to be heanng pollster on i'm going to be hearing from, reform. i'm going to be hearing from jonathan gullace, who's the deputy leader of the conservative party from within westminster. i'm going to

be going back to blackpool south. so we have got it all in the next 45 minutes. this is going to be drip feeding through to us, but if it is as bad as you suggest, it might be. alison, what do we get? a replacement tory leader or a general election? >> well , it's general election? >> well, it's going to be very, very difficult , >> well, it's going to be very, very difficult, isn't it, how rishi will react. >> i mean, i think that there's a certain tranche of people, quite senior people. i know who say, let's, let's go for it. because really things are so bad if they are on the if yougov is right and they are on 18, i mean, all bets are off. that would be one of the potentially a rout at the at the general election, would he call no , he election, would he call no, he wouldn't call a general at that stage. >> you're actually looking like the canadian when the canadian tories were famously reduced to whatever it was, one seat or three seats. i can never get it. get it right. but i mean, you know, at 18% is the tipping point. once you basically get below 25, you're really tipping into trouble. and then once you get below 20, you're talking absolute catastrophe . neither

absolute catastrophe. neither the tories or labour have polled, you know, anything like that basically since the end of the first world war. >> and can we just say as well that, yes, labour's got this stupefying lead and has been doing tremendously well in all the by elections. by the way, if the by elections. by the way, if the conservatives lose this by—election that'll be the 11th by—election. they've lost this parliament. but what is happening, patrick, matthew might like to demur on this is keir starmer is still not that popular. so what we are seeing is an undecided guided tories, millions of undecided tories and the reason labour is winning is tories staying home. so i'm very interested tonight to see if that's the case. and by the way, viewers should look out for harlow, harlow is the bellwether seat. it has got the general election result right for the past 25 years. and if labour is winning harlow labour is very likely to form. >> and that's gonna be one of the early councils to declare i know we don't like to mention,

you know, because they're not always the most fun subject, but the lib dems, they're only on there are 10, which the tories are on. 18% isn't terrible. the key thing with them is they are ruthlessly targeting, the councils because they're going to be targeting the constituencies in the posh commuter belt, sort of, you know, basically the thames water area, as it were, which is why they talk about sewage a lot. but in those posh seats, the blue wall falling. >> so what we've done here is we've set the scene. i've shown you the latest opinion polls from yougov. i'll just remind you again that they had the, the tory party on on 18% reform were on 15% as well. so that's really going to be a key battle to watch there. the labour party up about 46, which is remarkable stuff when you think about it . stuff when you think about it. so those really are where we are. when i come back, we're going to be talking to sean bailey, who has kind of done it all, really hasn't he? because he's still he's still as a as a mayoral candidate. that's a big, big, big mayoral election that we've not touched on at the top of the show there. sadiq khan versus susan hall . of the show there. sadiq khan versus susan hall. i wonder which way that's going to go. it always amazes me as well when it comes to these local elections.

the reporting restrictions on television compared to resourcing restrictions in print and you see on social media, there are so many things that you see online, you're unleashed. >> now, patrick, it's 10:00. >> now, patrick, it's 10:00. >> you're not allowed to talk about on telly until right now. so we're going to be doing all of that when we come back. don't miss it.

welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news.

and, yes, the polls have just slammed shut. how did you vote? did you vote? we've got a night of by elections, local elections, mayoral elections coming your way. and the very first. this is all essentially it's guesswork. from what? polling companies do. however, i have now seen the first predicted results that have come my way and it does make for quite damning reading. i'll run you through them. the net change for council seats at local councils . apparently the tories councils. apparently the tories might have lost 478. labour could have gained 273, the lib dems might have gained 129, and the greens could have gained 52. but there's lots to talk about tonight and i'm very pleased to say i am with someone who can cover all of those different by elections. it's a former conservative london mayoral candidate, shaun bailey. shaun, how are you? i am good, it's great to be back. itching to get back. we've missed you. we've obviously not been allowed to have you on because you've been doing your day job and i've been campaigning hard. right. how's it gone? it's funny in outer london in particular pockets the tory presence is really powerful

because of the ulez and because of crime . of crime. >> as you come in a bit a bit closer to the centre, it starts to weaken a bit, but then housing becomes an issue. and the mayor's poor record on that has kept the tory vote going. i'm fairly sure we'll get a respectable result beating sadiq khan was still going to be an uphill challenge. it always was going to be. but but, but in a respectable i don't think we're going to get wiped out. a little word on susan hall. i think she's absolutely worked their socks off. she's run around and around around and met everybody she could wear. the mainstay team press were sort of treating her a bit a bit rough in my opinion. what she then did was just sort of run a guerrilla campaign. she went to the doorstep and i think that's going to pay dividends for her. >> i believe that when you were running to be london mayor, i don't want to put words in your mouth. i don't know how well supported by number 10, you were in that susan hall had the correct amount of support here. do you think i would just say this? >> i think susan could have had more. i i'd argued that she had even less support than i did. quite frankly, she , she could quite frankly, she, she could have done with more support. but look what susan had is the same thing i had is tory activists.

they absolutely got behind her. they've delivered her leaflets, they've kept her up and they've spread the word. >> but why do you think the conservative party doesn't appear to care that much about getting rid of sadiq khan? >> i think they do. but i think our mechanism in london needs some work. the professionals who are responsible for it now are very activated and work it hard, but i think they need a bigger footprint on, on the, on the, on the sort of , footprint on, on the, on the, on the sort of, national footprint on, on the, on the, on the sort of , national stage. the sort of, national stage. they, we need to make our london professionals more important to the entire tory party. >> so your early view, your prediction, as it were, is that is that sadiq khan will still be the mayor of london, but it is not going to be a landslide victory. >> yes. that's what i say. the numbers are looking at where i speak to my colleagues. i speak to activists. they say we're doing all right. they wish we were doing better. i mean, really, nobody knows. but that's what it looks like. >> okay, let's zoom out a bit from london. now. let's talk nationally if that's okay. look, i read out again these are just some of the these this is a forecast okay. sometimes a spectacularly wrong. so i want to caveat it with that. sometimes they're bang on the money what this says from britain alex, is that

potentially the conservatives might have lost 478 council seats. there we go. we've got the graphic up on the screen now. so there we are. and that would mean a labour gain of 273, a lib dem gain of 129, a green gain of 52 and 24 others as well. how how devastating is that for rishi sunak? if true? >> if true, let's be clear. i hope to high heaven that that is wrong. that would be a horrific result. and i'll tell you why. one of the most important mechanisms to all political parties, particularly the conservative party is local councillors. they they they generate , they are the heart of generate, they are the heart of the party. and every one you lose is a real blow. so i hope that figure is wrong. i think attacking the prime minister now internally as a party, trying to remove him would be ridiculous. i think the damage was done when we removed boris. that's i think the damage was done when we removed boris . that's why we removed boris. that's why we're in this situation now. but let's be clear , if that result let's be clear, if that result is correct, that will put rishi in a very vulnerable position. and if people are of a mind to cause him trouble , they'd have

cause him trouble, they'd have what they could what would be considered very strong evidence , considered very strong evidence, if that is accurate. >> are we in, are we in for a general election or no confidence territory with the prime minister there? >> i don't know, and i would say no. why now? would any tory leadership, have an election now? what are we going to have to have one in fairly short order anyway? doing it now would just make that result live. what i would say to rishi is you still have time to turn this around. labour. the gap is closing. they will implode. this morning when they talked about, giving all all illegal boat arrivals the right to enter the asylum system is just one huge example of how ridiculous the labour party is and will become. so if i was rishi, i would stick to my guns. i'd assure everybody that there is a fight to be had. >> okay, we've got a local, election, a by—election tonight, i should say, as well, in blackpool south, said scott benson's former seat. he's resigned. reform have thrown the kitchen sink at that. and this is, i think, going to be

interesting. one again, just to emphasise we're going to be taking the results of this live here on gb news. we've got overnight coverage of it. we're going to be nipping in and out of blackpool south a little bit, like many hindus do every single yean like many hindus do every single year, and when it comes to this reform are on 15% nationally at the moment, roughly according to yougov, the tories are on 18. how much of a threat are they for you now? >> this seat is an exemplar of the power that reform have. so let's be clear. the reforms major power is to disrupt the tories. the reform will never do anything to damage labour at this point. they are not about to replace the tories and take labour down, but what they are potentially going to do in this seat would be a huge indication. that is, remove the tories out of labour's way. they have the power to do that. they will be a kingmaker or a pauper maker that reforms power . what i wish the reforms power. what i wish the tory party had done is absorbed the reform view much earlier on absorbed it strongly represented it for our for our mps. i'd argue many mps are tory mps are

much closer to reform than people would know, but we haven't absorbed them because if we don't , if we let reform grow, we don't, if we let reform grow, it'll be at our own peril. >> just one more with you. well, i've got you. please, sean, if that's okay. and actually, it is just returning to the london mayoral elections, where streeting tweeted out that a vote for susan hall would be a victory for islamophobes for people on the far right and all of that right across the world. and for me, i thought that was quite concerning to hear that from a bloke who might be in government in whenever the next election. is that his view of anyone who really kind of has conservative views, or who has maybe praised donald trump in the past, is seen as a far right islamophobe. i just wonder whether or not that meant that labour was a bit rattled. >> i was so deeply offended by that. i was born and raised in london. i spent much of my youth running away from the national front to have wes streeting tweet something so divisive, so untrue and just and just just offensive was a real shock to me. that's what's wrong with

politics. people attack people on the right just because they're not on the left, which is strange for some reason. sadiq khan has echoed these words as well. if you don't agree with them, they say you're extreme right? you're far right, which is wrong that is a real problem in people's homes and particularly in ethnic communities, because what they're basically saying is, if you're ethnic, you can't vote tory. if you're ethnic, you can't you can't be conservative, big or small. see if they knew anything about ethnic communities in this country, almost all ethnic communities are small c conservative, and thatis are small c conservative, and that is scary to them . i think that is scary to them. i think wes streeting should think very hard about how we use this twitter . twitter. >> you know, there was something quite funny that happened to me today, which was i went to peckham and people who've been watching the show will have seen some of the issues that were there when it came to the bus that was being stopped by a load of like basically white middle class students . right. but on class students. right. but on the walk from peckham station to there , i was getting stopped in there, i was getting stopped in there, i was getting stopped in the streets. people were chatting to me. a lot of members of the black community over there, big gb news fans, and that's great. and if you listen to wes streeting, you just wouldn't think any of that, any

of that existed. but look, sean, thank you very much. great to have you back on the show. i think this channel, and possibly over the course of next 24 hours is going to be rinsing you dry because we've missed you a lot here. but it's great to have you back. great we can hear now from a labour mp and the party's national campaign coordinator, mr pat mcfadden. >> well, we've got a lot of counts taking place over the coming few days. we're proud of the positive campaign that we've run in these elections . and when run in these elections. and when all the ballots are counted, we are confident that across the country it will show people voting for change and show real progress and momentum behind the labour party that keir starmer leads. well, the first result we will look for is the blackpool by—election which is the only result where rishi sunak and the government are really on the ballot paper and if we can gain that, that will show real progress on the way to the coming general election. we want to review this system so that it's fair to everybody and every genuine voter who wants to vote

is able to do so. genuine voter who wants to vote is able to do so . when we go is able to do so. when we go into the count, what we'll be looking for is the results themselves and the progress that we've been making in recent years. well, these are tough contests for us. i don't want to predict the results. i do know that if the incumbent tories hang on, it will only be because they put as much distance as possible between themselves and rishi sunak and the conservative party brand. that's not an opfion party brand. that's not an option available to conservative parliamentary candidates. come the general election. >> so that's pat mcfadden's view there, the labour mp, former labour minister as well. but what is going to happen as the results will be coming in thick and fast over the course of this evening and make sure that you keep it gb news, because from 12 pm. all the way through until p.m. all the way through until the early hours of the morning, about 6 am, we are going to be giving you those results live here am. did i say pm? it's late for me as well. anyway, here to tell us about this is the founder and ceo of technique uk. it is michaela. maurizio. look

thank you very much. you are one of the country's top pollsters. it's fantastic to have you on, to digest all this data in a way that i to digest all this data in a way that! can to digest all this data in a way that i can only dream of. so where shall we start? because you have the national result, i believe. yes, different to yougov . it's a bit better for yougov. it's a bit better for the tories. >> for you, yes, a bit different. but we this is our weekly tracker. we delivered it tonight, so we have to consider that the effects of the elections will be. will appear in our tracker next week. because, of course , we polled because, of course, we polled yesterday and today this morning. and so of course people were voting. so we don't see the effects at the national level of the local elections. first of all. second, in any case, conservatives , this week for us conservatives, this week for us are minus one percentage point to 22. and a labour 44 reform uk plus one percentage point. so 13% lib dems ten, greens 6% and

snp 2. another 3. >> so that that is interesting what you're saying there is that okay, this is this is as it is now. but when we get the results through that will trickle through. so for example, let's say labour do better than expected . would you expect that expected. would you expect that to dent the conservatives even more in the polls if the tories did better than expected, would that hurt reform? how are how are tonight's results going to impact going forward ? impact going forward? >> yes, well, i can give you my thoughts because of course we do not have data yet with this regard. but first of all, the key point, the first key point, i think will be the turnout to know how many people have voted. first of all, just to try and fair the effects at the national level, people are disenchanted and disillusioned and i'm very cunous and disillusioned and i'm very curious and looking forward to see if they have decided to stay at home or to vote as protest .

at home or to vote as protest. but, so perhaps the turnout is low, but only protest votes have been. >> i have been done. >> i have been done. >> so , so. and, because in this >> so, so. and, because in this tncky >> so, so. and, because in this tricky times, people, don't think too much about ideology or ideology. they are not linked too much to the ideology of conservatives or labour or reform of any political party. they do think about the economic crisis, about the inflation rate, about the cost of living . rate, about the cost of living. and of course, they fear their future. and so when people are disillusioned, they vote less. >> well, that's interesting because another graphic here that you've given me is how confident are you in the government's ability to deal with any of those priorities that you've just mentioned? there and i'm just going to go along this track here. well, i'll let you talk me through it. basically but it's not it's not particularly good. is this at

the moment not at the moment. >> not very good, but yes, about the country's priorities in the next 12 months. so, what do we see here starting from january the 20th 23 we started with 35% in terms of confidence . it's not in terms of confidence. it's not so high, but it's fine . you see so high, but it's fine. you see that between may and june, end of may we have 45. we >> so in may 2023, exactly 45% of people very high were confident in this government's ability to deal with the country. >> exactly . but why, if we look >> exactly. but why, if we look back to this period , may 2023, back to this period, may 2023, it's been an interesting month because, we had the coronation of king charles. right. and so these are moments six months after, rishi sunak was named new prime minister after liz truss . prime minister after liz truss. and so it's something like a honeymoon this period where people are confident and just

hope that things may change and better . and now it appears that better. and now it appears that now appears, yes, we have reached 33. an interesting thing is that when we see from our experience that the trust in government goes below 31, it's very difficult for a government to leave off. >> so you're quivering on the edge of that? >> yes, we are quivering on the edge. some. >> it's like a turning point, okay? because it's the time people are, you know. >> well, let me let me now just get your take. so we're fascinating stuff. this so we are potentially anyway right at the turning point there for rishi sunak's premiership . many rishi sunak's premiership. many people might feel that that turning point happened a while ago. but there we go. here is the first exit poll that we've seen here @gbnews so i'm going to i'm going to stick you with this sorry. first forecast i should say first forecast. important distinction. net change in council seats. so —478 for the conservatives is what

this forecast not an exit poll forecast says labour are on plus 273. the lib dems on plus 129. would you be surprised if that turns out to be true or not, considering the overall situation of british politics at the moment , situation of british politics at the moment, on one side i would not be so surprised. but, i was analysing all the, all the, all the results in terms of local elections and if they reach these 478 seats lost , this would these 478 seats lost, this would be the worst ever local election performance since 1995. >> wow. >> wow. >> for the conservative party. >> for the conservative party. >> and then, of course, what happenedin >> and then, of course, what happened in 97. >> exactly, exactly. and we know all the history. so this would mean protest vote, who do you think they are going to end up voting for though? well, i mean,

obviously in this case literally laboun obviously in this case literally labour, right. but when you say protest vote, i mean does that is people who are back in reform, their ears might be pricking up there may be some liberal democrats as well, maybe some some independents. do you think reform i suppose it's difficult to say. they're going to have a good night in the local elections. i mean they're not really standing people everywhere are they are a general election. we have got a by—election tonight and that's in blackpool south. yeah. do you think the reform could do well there. is that a good indicator of where they might be nationally? we have not polled blackpool itself, but , overall blackpool itself, but, overall considered, i've been talking about that and the, the reform uk with, with many people here in the uk and because you have to know your enemy the moment you campaign and we have to consider that of course labour and conservatives have never been one against the other. >> but you have somebody who is picking you up a big part of

your votes. yeah, with respect to 2019 and it's in the right side of politics. so the same topics , the same the same topics, the same the same issues, the same issues . issues, the same issues. exactly. so it's very difficult. >> could i ask you to stay with me please. because we're going to get some more information coming in thick and fast. i would love to have you here to digest it. and that is, of course, michaela. marisa there, who is the founder and the ceo of tetany uk. but what i do have now is the very first newspaper front pages to bring you so let's do it. we've got the i labour was team trump as starmer prepares for power keir starmer and the shadow foreign secretary david lammy are to step up meetings with donald trump's inner circle. let's go to the daily mirror for talks over cup crisis under fire. footie chiefs emergency meeting. apparently the football association will take part in top level talks this week, to save the magic of

the fa cup, let's go to the fft. the financial times veteran sweeney to lead the scottish government as rival forbes steps aside, that's what they're going with the metro . i'm in it to win with the metro. i'm in it to win it. tories claim stitch up as former snp leader gets set for a return. let's go to the daily star. fake tan friday. yes britain turns orange as 52% of us reach for the sun to pay before bank holiday. despite exactly the noises that i'm getting in my ear from my producer now, would like to emphasise to everybody that my tan is real and i went on a real houday tan is real and i went on a real holiday and stood on a real sunbed. holiday and stood on a real sunbed . but there we go. the sunbed. but there we go. the guardian pm to allow oil and gas exploration. yeah all right. fine. whatever. right. okay. so, now , earlier on, we did hear now, earlier on, we did hear from, labour. mp pat mcfadden. shall we just remind ourselves a little bit of what he had to say? and then i'm going to go back to my panel because alison and matthew have just joined us back on the sofa. so here's a little bit of pat proud of the positive campaign that we've run

, we're going to have lots of results over the next few days . results over the next few days. but we believe when all accounting is finished that we will have shown real progress and real momentum in the years since keir starmer became leader. the first result we will look for is the blackpool by—election, which is the only result where rishi sunak and the government are really on the ballot paper. and if we can gain that, that will show real progress , on the way to the progress, on the way to the coming general election, if the incumbent tories hang on, it will only be because they put as much distance as possible between themselves and rishi sunak and the conservative party brand. that's not an option available to conservative parliamentary candidates. come the general election. >> right. pat mcfadden there. yes. my wonderful panel are back with me on the sofa. alison pearson is here. the star columnist at the daily telegraph we're going to be, we're going to be going to you first on this. alison so look, a couple of points that happened today . of points that happened today. bofis

of points that happened today. boris johnson apparently turned up at a polling centre and didn't bring his id and so got rejected. absolutely >> you couldn't make it up. yeah. >> despite him being responsible for the entirely his idea. >> yeah, and then also johnny mercer, who i've got a huge amount of time for a huge amount of time for , one forgot to or of time for, one forgot to or didn't get the veterans id cards over the line as they recognise form of voting identification. so conceivably a load of veterans who. i don't want to generalise too much here, but i would imagine are maybe more inclined to swing to the right. couldn't vote as a result of this. it does have the kind of last days of rome feel. >> we're getting quite a lot of those , aren't we really? those, aren't we really? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> one thing i do think is very interesting, bit of a technical point, but worth knowing is one reason the tory losses are likely to be so big tonight and our expert will back me up. is in 2021, when boris was it as absolute peak vaccine rollout? brilliant. they did phenomenally well for an incumbent

government. yeah. so very very rarely . so they got lots and rarely. so they got lots and lots of seats and labour lost lots of seats and labour lost lots and lots of seats. so tonight one reason the fall is going to be so great is that there are lots of there are lots of tory seats, but it is peak bofis of tory seats, but it is peak boris baby dylan the dog, his. >> yeah. classic but you know what? >> it shows we need to get rid of the photo id thing. it was. it was a sledgehammer. you. do you know who thinks that jacob rees—mogg thinks that of this, of this parish? yeah. >> jacob rees—mogg also thinks that shamima begum should come oven that shamima begum should come over. so he's got some different views. he's got some different views, i must say. but matthew, look, when you when you are having a look at again, it's just forecast but showing that the tories might have lost, might have lost 478 seats. i think it was. >> yeah, yeah, yeah . that's, >> yeah, yeah, yeah. that's, that's, that seems right to me because and the balance of who they're losing those seats to as well. i mentioned the lib dems earlier. we need to give the greens a bit of a shout out because, maybe the voters hadn't clocked what's going on in scotland. it's a separate green party from england. and wales, but the greens are doing well in

a variety of areas, not just their traditional base and kind of student towns and cities like norwich and brighton, but they're also doing well in some of the tory shires. they're also doing well in some of the tory shires . they run of the tory shires. they run councils now a couple of district councils in suffolk, for example , you know, which you for example, you know, which you wouldn't, you wouldn't expect. so what's happening is it's just like the national poll, labour obviously getting the majority of soaking up of the support, haemorrhaging from the tories. but the, the smaller parties are getting their share too. >> and just to emphasise, as well, how representative do you actually think this is going to be of a national election? you were mentioning a lot about turnout. what kind of turnout would you expect to see at this stage of a government's position, really, do you think at a local elections at this time for the local. yeah, yeah. for local elections, roughly . for local elections, roughly. >> i'm waiting to hear the official data. yeah yeah, that's a good line. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> absolutely, absolutely. >> but in any case, it won't be so high. it could be 30% overall. 33, 32. not not much more. >> a bit higher in the areas

with mayors because that tends to get people going a little bit higher in london. and then if you just got on the different areas and what we haven't mentioned are the police and crime commissioner, elections , crime commissioner, elections, how could i forget where the turnout will be very, very low . turnout will be very, very low. remember in the first one it was in the barely in the teens? yeah. i'm not sure if it's still labour policy, but it was labour policy to get rid of them and put the police on the streets. >> but what we what we are seeing, what we have seen in all these by elections and perhaps repeated now with the local election, is, is many, many conservative voters, very, very angry, disillusioned conservative voters refusing to vote at all. >> and you mentioned that disillusionment. >> i mentioned that disenchantment. they're disillusioned because people are angry, but because economy rules, economy rules at the local level and economy will rule in the next campaign for the general elections we are living in really tricky times, not only in the uk. i've seen the same more or less the same situation throughout europe. in italy, two and, it's interesting

because in this case you were correctly saying in 2021, conservatives won't quite everywhere. but when people are so angry, they decided not to go to vote, or they vote for protest and vote reform, they vote labour. well lots of tories have said to me they were they were too old fashioned to not vote, but they're going to spoil their ballot paper with two words, and the second one is off. >> i heard someone you won't know what that is, patrick. >> but you're an innocent. >> but you're an innocent. >> an innocent? few times today, actually, you had quite a lot of it today. i heard it, i heard it, i was about 200 people shouting at me in peckham earlier, but i did read a good tweet, i thought, which is someone saying like a dog returning to its vomit. i have gone, i have gone and voted conservative again . and, conservative again. and, matthew, one of the things with with the locals really, i suppose if it is as good as it does appear for labour, those clamours those calls for rishi

sunak to get on and call a general election are going to be deafening. >> absolutely. i think what we're going to have is a very bad 12 hours for the tories, as the by—election and the local council elections come in, i think there will may be some better news for the tories with the mayoral elections. and i think you may see rishi sunak holding ben hawkins hand if he makes it back. you've got 70% last time, so he should make it back. >> he should. and very shortly hopefully touch wood. fingers crossed. all of that stuff we are going to be going live to westminster for the deputy chairman of the conservative party, jonathan gullace, who i believe as if by magic, we can now go to. so there we go. look at the timing on that. jonathan, how are you? >> hey, patrick, how are you missing the sofa? missing >> yeah, we've put him in our underground bunker in westminster, but, underground bunker in westminster, but , look, underground bunker in westminster, but, look, judging by some of the forecasts, jonathan, that's the safest place to be. what do you think about it? a potential loss of 478 seats is all forecasts. you're not buying it yet? i take it . it. >> well, of course, patrick, you'll understand that we have got a number of different types of elections, from mayoralties to police, crime commissioners

to police, crime commissioners to councillors , and counts are to councillors, and counts are happening at different times over different courses of the day and the weekend, in fact. so let's wait and reserve judgement until sunday, when we have a very clear picture of what the results are . and let's also results are. and let's also remember the context in which these elections have taken place today, compared to when they last were held in 2021. we had, of course, just come out of the second lockdown. we had about 60% of the country receiving their first jab. we therefore outperformed expectations and ultimately obviously, therefore have set a very high watermark, which independent experts themselves have said would be very hard to repeat for any party. >> yeah, there was i mean, that is undeniable that there was a very, very big bump for the conservatives at the last one for a variety of different societal factors, etc. so yeah, it does stand to reason that, you know, a fall might be slightly exaggerated , but what slightly exaggerated, but what is the mood like? honestly, jonathan, in number 10 at the moment . moment. >> well, the mood is very clear, patrick, that we obviously want to see as many conservative councillors, mayors and police crime commissioners elected as possible. there will, of course,

be different elections fought on different issues all across the country. we have got fantastic candidates who have worked tremendously hard putting their case and their record forwards , case and their record forwards, the electorate. let's not forget that if you vote conservative and have a conservative council, you're going to pay less council tax, have fly—tipping tackle much more quickly. you're going to have crime lower in your area as well. whereas in labour, obviously flytipping is three times higher in those areas where they're stuck with labour councillors. i know that i see it in stoke on trent, in stoke on trent again, we've got potholes not being repaired despite the government receiving hundreds of millions of additional pounds of sorry. the government giving stoke city council hundreds of pounds of additional funding in order to fix our broken roads and pavements. the harsh reality is, patrick, that it's only the conservatives that can and will deliver. >> all right, well, look, what are you going to say to some of your colleagues tonight who might be looking over the course of what will no doubt be absolutely wonderful election coverage right here on gp news? there's no need to go anywhere else but what you're some of your colleagues who might be thinking, i'm going to send that letter of no confidence in people have been quivering on the edge of sending a letter of no confidence to rishi sunak. you might look at this tonight

if the forecasts are to be believed and say, look, i want another, i want another leader in a few months and general election. what would you say to them, jonathan? >> i would remind them, patrick, that if the prime minister when he was chancellor, that made sure that we had people getting 80% of their salary covered to stay at home in order to save lives and protect their livelihoods. covid grants and loans, going to businesses up and down our country that kept the lights on has covered 50% on average people's salaries, has delivered inflation down from 11.1% when he took office, down to 3.2% has introduced tax cuts on average worth £900 a year and obviously has a long term ambition to end the double tax on work by getting rid of national insurance altogether . national insurance altogether. this is the prime minister who has delivered on levelling up funds. he actually dished out the cash to places like stoke. that means council and boris will get breathed new life into it. kidsgrove sports centres refurbished and reopens. things that shut under labour. the reality is that this prime minister has done an awful lot and the country will have a choice between rishi sunak and sir keir starmer at the next general election, and that i

think you will see a big shift in the polls. >> okay. all right. look, jonathan, thank thank you very, very much. i imagine we'll be calling you quite a few times in the coming days and hours. much appreciate to you. make yourself available to us at this time. jonathan gullace, that's the deputy chairman of the conservative party, very on brand, as you would expect. it'd be quite weird if he wasn't. he's only just got the job, to be honest with you. but, look, matthew, i'm going to come to you first on that. i also see this. >> you saw me shaking my head there. >> so are you shaking your head a lot, and i am. i am going to introduce the daily telegraph now because this this front page is just a fine newspaper with a fine columnist. absolutely. but there's a story on here that has piqued my interest. mordant. i won't be installed in number 10 like some new boiler. she says. penny morden has denied that she'll be installed in number 10 like a new boiler. >> look, it's a good line. she's getting her defence in early. there against the noise, isn't it? >> that is. >> that is. >> absolutely. that is the noise. i mean, two reasons. one, because she may well lose her seat in portsmouth at the next general election, so she may not be there for the leadership contest afterwards , being a contest afterwards, being a party leader, she might help us save this. party leaders tend in britain to keep their seats apart from jo swinson. we'll

just draw a veil over that, but the other thing is, is, you know, the other front pages are looking at scotland, some of them. and of course, what we could see is a stitch up, as we've seen in scotland. i think if the tories do get into absolute meltdown, they'll have to have a stitch up. we cannot go through a leadership contest, you know, with involving 6 or 7 weeks yet again. so i think she's been very clever to make clear, she's not on manoeuvres while subtly behind the scenes being on manoeuvres. >> okay. i did an interview with penny mordaunt. it was a pre—record, which is going to be airing on monday. so i'll give you a bit more information about all of that nearer the time . can all of that nearer the time. can i just introduce to you, alison, the daily mail, who signed is labour really on the daily mail says this is their front page. labour mps helped to promote protests to halt the migrant coach. that was the protest that i was at today. i know that we do have some floats of that, that maybe we can play over as well. but alison, this is, i think, quite interesting from the mail saying labour mps, you know, getting on the side of those people who are sitting and barricading themselves in front of a migrant bus, whose side is

labour on, i wonder if people will have considered that today when they voted no. >> i think they're far beyond that now. i think the i know you keep you keep trying to i keep trying to tell you what i'm honestly getting from the telegraph readers. who are they? are they are done. all right. they are. they are finished. all right. so they're not interested. they won't for vote penny mordaunt either, because they want a far more right wing candidate now than penny mordaunt. penny, a trans woman, is a woman is not going to become the next leader of the conservative party. they want a she's the left of the snp on that. now she is to the left of the snp. but i think it's interesting because labour's escaping scrutiny, aren't they. because they've still got a lot of these hard left momentum types hanging around. they've got the sort of gaza brigade, haven't they, with the old stripy scarves and so on. so they are, i think, i don't think that the electorate is yet focusing on what, what what they are being pushed out. >> pushed out of there. >> pushed out of there. >> alison. >> alison. >> what are your views on this? because for a lot for a lot of our viewers and listeners, obviously immigration is the big thing, right? and if people are saying like on the front of the

mail that they can't, they can't be trusted on it. labour you don't think will make too much of a difference to them, well, national issues is another . national issues is another. >> well, it's a question we put, for example, in all our questionnaires when we do, researches and it's quite interesting because we put 20, 25 topics and of course environment, for example, is one of them. then we select the first 3 or 4 that raised more consensus from the respondents. and can i can guarantee that environment is never within the 3 or 4. the first three or so. >> the environment is never a never a top priority. >> that doesn't mean it's not important, because if you ask, is climate change important? yes. 100% of the respondents will tell you yes, but when we think about politics, a political party and what do you expect it and how these their

vision can affect your daily life? you think about work , you life? you think about work, you think about health care, you think about health care, you think about health care, you think about the future, the cost of living, the future of your family on your children, and of course, the environment and climate change is something people want to be involved, but it's not the top priority and it's not the top priority and it's on and it's on. >> i think those key issues where we are seeing are arguably the best example of this might have been humza yousaf's, to a lesser extent, nicola sturgeon in scotland, the massive bread and butter, the massive difference between what politicians were pumping out there and their views and their agenda and what the public actually wanted. all right, now we've only got one minute left, so i'm just going to do a quick a quick sweep stake if that's okay. because i know you two, especially possibly yourself as well, have got a long night ahead of you, here. go on. you put a number on the number of conservative seats that you think will go gone . go on 494

think will go gone. go on 494 90490490. the latest forecast that we had earlier was 478. i feel bad making you do this because this is literally your job, but you haven't got the data yet, so you would never normally comment on this. but go on. >> we won't tell anybody. they were my data. you would say i would. i would confirm , but you would. i would confirm, but you know, the expectations are not so good for conservatives. >> go and put a number. >> go and put a number. >> i'm going to go for 20 okay. >> i'm going to go for 20 okay. >> and is rishi sunak. >> i'm going to go for 20 okay. >> and is rishi sunak . well what >> and is rishi sunak. well what do you think. are we going to have an election do you reckon in the next couple of months after tonight. no. you're saying no as well. it could happen, matthews wrong. they could do it within days. they don't have to have one of those beauty parades around the country. they could do it in ten days or. >> well, no, they could do. >> well, no, they could do. >> yeah, but there'd have to be a they'd have to be. >> the scene is set for another night of bumper coverage. can't say thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you as well. i will see you tomorrow at 9:00 pm. take care. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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gb news. >> very good evening to you. you're watching and listening to gb news 11:00. and polls have closed . counting is getting closed. counting is getting underway in many of the elections held today across england and wales, millions of people have been voting for councillors, mayors and police commissioners. it's being seen as a major test of public opinion ahead of the upcoming general election. well, as polls closed , labour's national closed, labour's national campaign coordinator coordinator pat mcfadden , said he's focused pat mcfadden, said he's focused on turning the page after what he called conservative decline. >> we're going to have lots of results over the next few days, but we believe when all accounting is finished that we will have shown real progress and real momentum. in the years

since keir starmer became leader