great to have your company >> great to have your company this morning. and do we have an action packed show coming up for you? >> we do indeed. all of the day's top stories with broadcaster esther stanhope and writer and podcaster lewis oakley. >> super saturday with the results of the mayoral elections in the west midlands, london, greater manchester and other regions to announce we're asking if the tories could pick up some momentum after a bleak set of results yesterday. yeah that big results yesterday. yeah that big result coming at 2:00 with sadiq khan elsewhere is it time to ditch the university books and go the apprenticeship route? >> more and more young people certainly think so. we'll be debating that later this hour and we will be welcoming our greatest briton to the show. >> following his groundbreaking 2022 climb to everest base camp, he's now going to summit mount kilimanjaro. ain't no mountain high enough.

>> and i don't know about you guys at home. or you, emma , but guys at home. or you, emma, but i'm dubbing today, super saturday, because the results of the london mayoral elections. sadiq khan against susan hall. are announced around about 2:00. and at the moment, the rumours are the whispers are that sadiq khanis are the whispers are that sadiq khan is under big, big pressure. so all eyes on that. >> everything to play for. it's going to be very unpredictable. >> yeah, but let us know what you think. is sadiq under pressure ? do you want him back pressure? do you want him back in office? i don't think many of you would, but i think there's probably some of you who don't mind him that much. and also other results from the local elections yesterday coming through as well. but before all that, here's your news headlines with ray. >> thanks, guys. 10:01. our top stories. the prime minister faces another challenging day after losing hundreds of councillors in the local elections, with 102 of 107 councils declared. the conservatives have have suffered huge losses, including control

of ten councils. labour made major gains , with the lib dems major gains, with the lib dems and the greens also doing well. election experts sir john curtice says the final outcome could be the tories worst performance for 40 years. ellie reevesis performance for 40 years. ellie reeves is labour's deputy national campaign coordinator. she's told us it's a good start but more still needs to be done . but more still needs to be done. >> look, i think we're pleased but not complacent. there are a large number of battleground seats that we need to win at the general election to form a government. places like bolsover and mansfield, south derbyshire. the seats that we need to win. so that's why winning in the east midlands is a really good indicator of, of the mood and where things are going. >> well. andrew griffiths . >> well. andrew griffiths. is minister for science, innovation and technology. he told us the pubuc and technology. he told us the public don't really want labour's policies.

>> look it's a difficult set of results. i think that was what was expected going in. there's going to be a very, very simple choice at the next election. who walks through number 10 downing street? is it rishi sunak with his plan that's starting to work now, or is it keir. his plan that's starting to work now, or is it keir . with with no now, or is it keir. with with no plan or where they do have plans that that don't really go with the grain of what the british people want? >> the result of seven mayoral contests will be announced today, including london and the west midlands. the battle between london mayor sadiq khan and hall . and tory challenger susan hall. is thought to be closer than expected. the count started at 9 am. this morning, and we could have an indication who's won by early afternoon. meanwhile, a narrow contest is also likely for conservative mayor andy street in the west midlands, greater manchester, west yorkshire, liverpool city region, south yorkshire and salford will also declare today we'll also hear results from eight elections eight of ten elections for police commissioners. police and crime commissioners. bofis police and crime commissioners. boris thanked boris johnson has thanked polling refused to let polling staff who refused to let him vote without id. the former prime minister was . turned away prime minister was. turned away from a polling station on

thursday after he forgot valid identification. writing in the daily mail, mrjohnson said the three villages were right to stick to the rules. he came back later with his driving licence. the requirement to provide photo id was introduced by mrjohnson id was introduced by mr johnson when he occupied number 10. a burst water main has left around 31,000 properties without water in east sussex. southern water says the disruption in saint leonards on sea and parts of hastings will continue into sunday. the issue was first reported on thursday . forcing reported on thursday. forcing the company to open water bottle stations , schools, a leisure stations, schools, a leisure centre and a theatre in the area have all been forced to close. motorists are being warned to expect heavy traffic this bank houday expect heavy traffic this bank holiday weekend, according to the rac. around 3 million will take to the roads today alone, an increase in day trips and short breaks could mean that local routes could see heavy traffic. also, train strikes between tuesday and the following saturday could lead to most roads being busier. fuel

pnces most roads being busier. fuel prices have gone up by an average of £0.10 per litre so far this year. new figures show that the typical price for a litre of petrol reached £1.50 in april, whilst diesel came close to £1.58. the rising prices have added around £5.50 to the cost of filling a typical family car. the rac is calling on the competition and markets authority to crack down on retailers over unfair margins. for the latest stories , you can for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. camel's back now to ben and emma. >> very good morning to you. thank you for joining >> very good morning to you. thank you forjoining us. i thank you for joining us. i think it's going to be a good day today, emma, because the sun is trying its hardest to peak out in london in the south—east. anyway. not sure about where you are. and yeah, i'm feeling good, but it hasn't been a good day for you though has it, ben? no good.24 for you though has it, ben? no good. 24 hours. it's been a bit of a strange 24 hours. i've got scammed on twitter last night

trying to buy arsenal tickets so i lost £160 sending it to some random my fault admittedly. and then this morning i was getting off the train to come to this shift and my watch slipped off and fell down the train tracks. and they had to stop all the trains for ten minutes, red signals everywhere, just so they could retrieve my watch. so there you go. >> will. the third bad thing to happen to you be something to do with these electoral results ? with these electoral results? >> well, either i'm going to faint on air today and you're going to have to pick up the mantle , or sadiq khan is going mantle, or sadiq khan is going to win london and he's going to beat susan hall, the results of which are in at 2:00. >> i'd rather you fainted. >> i'd rather you fainted. >> oh, thank you. cheers. good start. all right. >> well there's that . >> well there's that. >> well there's that. >> yeah. well look, there is only one place to start the show, and it's of course, those local election results. it was a bleak day for rishi sunak yesterday, but could the tories see their fortunes turn around today with those mayoral election results announced in london, greater manchester and the west midlands? >> well, let's pose that question to gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who's outside city hall. thank you for joining who's outside city hall. thank you forjoining us, olivia. so this is really quite a complex election, isn't it? there are

lots of unknown and unpredictable factors . unpredictable factors. >> absolutely, emma. i mean, there are all sorts of unknown unknowns which could affect this election result . sadiq unknowns which could affect this election result. sadiq khan was very much the favourite going into this contest . very much the favourite going into this contest. he very much the favourite going into this contest . he was, at into this contest. he was, at some points, 22 points ahead in the polls . if he were to win, it the polls. if he were to win, it would be an unprecedented third term victory for him. but whispers started last night that perhaps the contest could be much, much closer than was being predicted. now, why is that? well, there are a number of factors at play. one of them is what is going to happen to the muslim vote. the muslim vote is a big, big, demographic in london and the surrounding areas . and although sadiq khan has called for an immediate ceasefire in gaza, something which most muslim voters are in favour of, the labour leader keir starmer has taken a completely different stance and has defended israel's right to defend itself. now, what will

labour voters in london make of that? will they choose to stay at home muslim natural labour voters? because they don't like what keir starmer has said? or will they understand the difference between keir starmer and sadiq khan and go out and vote for sadiq khan anyway? as yet we just don't know who will win out sadiq khan or keir starmer. that could be a huge factor. another factor is reform, as we saw yesterday in the blackpool south by—election, reform is beginning to see the dividends of its high polling and howard cox, the reform candidate in london, is hopeful that he might be able to split the tory vote if that is the case, then of course we could see sadiq khan fly to the kind of victory that everyone was predicting . that said, usually predicting. that said, usually in the london mayoral race, it is very , very much a two horse is very, very much a two horse affair and it could be that natural reform voters who are on the whole , often to the right of the whole, often to the right of

the whole, often to the right of the conservative party, decide that susan hall, who is definitely on the right of the conservative party is the candidate for them. if that's the case, then of course we could be in for a shock. susan hall victory. the other factor at play is what happens to the lib dem vote. normally in london, the lib dems don't really stand a chance of winning the mayoralty, but what lib dem voters do is put the lib dems first and labour usually sadiq khan , in second place. this time khan, in second place. this time round it's a whole different voting system and there will be no second preference votes . last no second preference votes. last time sadiq khan did very well on second preferences. if that lib dem second preference vote completely collapses, and if the lib dems move in other directions rather than voting for labour. on the whole, the lib dems aren't big fans of sadiq khan . then again, we could sadiq khan. then again, we could be looking at a surprise. susan hall victory. so far, all we know is turnout. turnout is around 40, which is pretty low . around 40, which is pretty low. susan hall's team, the conservative team, say that low turnout is good for their

candidate. and what's more, it looks as though turnout has been higher in the doughnut areas . higher in the doughnut areas. the outer areas of london, like bromley, bexley , dagenham, bromley, bexley, dagenham, places which on the whole tend to sway conservative places which really hate ulez. and on the inner bits of london in camden, in hammersmith, in the city, turnout has been really low in some places as low as 1,920. those are places which naturally support sadiq khan. so again, that's got labour feeling pretty jittery. the sentiment here on the ground is that sadiq khan will probably just about win, but it could be much, much closer than anyone is predicting i >> excellent olivia utley top tier analysis. thank you so much. really appreciate it and we'll be back with you during the show , it made me laugh when the show, it made me laugh when olivia said the reformer to the right of the conservative party. i was thinking in my head, well, this doesn't take much to be to the right of the conservative party. >> some people in the labour party were to the right conservative party. >> but anyway, we're delighted to be joined now by broadcaster esther stanhope and writer and

podcaster lewis oakley. very good morning to you both . good morning to you both. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> what's your take then? are you as excited as i am about the london mayoral results later this afternoon? i think you should temper that excited because i almost think sadiq khan winning has always been sort of a done deal. polling sort of a done deal. polling sort of a done deal. polling sort of 20 to 30. he's going to he's going to take it. and now all of a sudden whilst we're waiting to see like, oh, from the labour side, you know, we might we might lose it, we might lose it . and i almost think it's lose it. and i almost think it's just so that they can deliver that sucker punch later on today where it's like, well, of course you won. i think it was almost such a done deal that they're now trying to float this rumour that, oh , well, maybe it's not that, oh, well, maybe it's not so close. >> you never say never . >> you never say never. >> you never say never. >> though the turnout figures are quite interesting in the outer boroughs, aren't they? yeah. >> so i live in. i live in shoreditch, which is right by the city of london. it was my daughter's first experience of voting, and she was like, i don't know what to vote for. we had this awful pamphlet where everyone looks awful, including sadiq khan. nobody is interesting in the pamphlet . interesting in the pamphlet. nobodyis interesting in the pamphlet. nobody is really exciting. i'm not really excited by anybody . i not really excited by anybody. i said, look, you can't waste your vote. you've got to come and

vote. you've got to come and vote. so we went to the polling station in commercial street. it was dead as a dodo . i mean, was dead as a dodo. i mean, there's hardly anyone in there. i was really surprised, actually. it was the evening, but i was thinking, where are all the people? so she got overwhelmed by the ballot papers because you have the pink and the what was it, pink. green, whatever. and she said there was there were so many people anyway. so she ended up voting for the animal welfare because it was the first one on the page. so i'm thinking, i'm thinking in london, animal welfare, you know, they're going to get a lot of votes, i think. >> but it's interesting, isn't it, that olivia was saying on the channel earlier that in that doughnut area, it's up. it's around 40. the turnout is much , around 40. the turnout is much, much better. and obviously those are the areas that are very ulez sceptic because they're less sort of london and a bit more countryside people, lots of trades people working out there at a very affected by ulez. so be interesting to see whether that disaffection because i mean i voted in, in within the doughnut. >> you were the doughnut were you doughnut voter and they did seem to be a lot of people out. >> and everybody was very, very anti sadiq khan .

anti sadiq khan. >> well, i know i was in the jammy area and there was no interest really. >> i think that'll be the thing. i think that the anti sadiq khan, which i think so many londoners now are like we just we can't stand him, he's too arrogant. he's ruined it with ulez not tough on crime, so many problems. but i think the problems. but i think the problem is who could people go for. and i'm on a few whatsapp groups with people that kind of do this sort of thing, and it was interesting to see how split all of they were and they didn't know what to do. and some people say, hold your nose and vote for susan and then other people. i just can't do it. so i wonder how that's going to play out. i think a lot of londoners can agree we don't like sadiq khan, but who should take that? i mean, maybe it should be animal welfare. >> do you think they're not a very interesting candidates? i'm afraid. >> do you think that that disaffection possibly plays against both parties? because in with the conservatives, there'll be some people who, as you say, hold their nose and they don't want to vote for susan hall because they don't want to vote for the conservatives because they're angry at the conservative party at the same time, you could have the muslim vote not going out and voting for sadiq khan because they don't agree with keir starmer's

position on gaza rather than definitely has an effect . so do definitely has an effect. so do you think that that's something that could make this extremely unpredictable? >> i'll, i think it's unpredictable. i think it's very confusing. i don't think the politics is really nothing. seems, obvious to vote for. i mean, you know, no one's really . mean, you know, no one's really. floating my boat, and i don't think anyone's floating anyone's vote. >> i think it'd be so interesting to see, polling wise, how many people decided on the day because there were so many people that were on their way to the polling station, still unsure as to what they were going to do? are we being a bit london centric? just focusing on sadiq khan in this race? i mean, one half of me thinks we are. we've got lots of viewers, of course, you know, in the north east, the north west, wales and elsewhere, but i then also think but sadiq khan is the flag bearer of this ulez green. i call it a deranged march to net zero policy. and he's, you know, he travels the world, he travels to new york promoting it. and i think it is a national issue , really. issue, really. >> and we have seen in oxford, oxford city council , all the oxford city council, all the actress florence pugh's father, they want a few seats didn't

they. independent party that is anti ltn. so do you think that the, the anti ulez sentiment is something that could be playing out around the country in some of these councils, simply anti policies that are like low traffic neighbourhoods, ulez green policies is huge. >> i mean where was it we saw just outside of london. that was expected to go labour. >> but it went conservative because of that ulez issue. i think it is a big issue because so many people rely on their cars , and so many people feel cars, and so many people feel like london is already booby trapped. if you're a driver, you know, you take one wrong turn and you've got a massive fine. and i think people are sick of that. people are saying, look, i'm not trying to kill the planet. i just need to get from a to b, i need to drop the kids off. i've got to go to work. stop. stop bringing in this legislation that's absolutely. they hate motorists. they do it down. in brighton years ago, they introduced 20 mile an hour zones saying it would be a lot better for the environment when in actual fact, when you drive at 20 miles an hour, you're in second gear and your revs are a lot higher. so that blew that myth out the window. but i just think london as a blueprint for this, this green agenda ulez has been introduced, of course, but

next, susan hall and conservatives would argue pay per mile where they're charging drivers per mile driven, which is just outrageous. drivers per mile driven, which is just outrageous . and don't is just outrageous. and don't forget ulez and those kind of legislations, they cut a lot deeper out of london. in london, arguably, you don't need to drive . you can get the tube, you drive. you can get the tube, you can get the bus. it is possible to get there. but if you live somewhere rural or somewhere with a town that doesn't have a regular bus , well, you're done for. >> havering. i mean, it's more it's more essex people identify as more essex. yeah. so people who are say , you know, can't get who are say, you know, can't get an electric van because the thing would run out of charge because of the weight of the things they're carrying around. these things just don't work for them because they're not they can't just hop on a bus or hop on the tube. they need to be able to use their cards in cars in order to do their trade. >> i think that we're getting to i think fining people is not a good idea. i am agree, i do . good idea. i am agree, i do. i do think we should think about our green policies. i do want net zero. i am pro, of course i am. are you i mean, yeah, i mean i don't want to destroy the planet. you know, this planet is being destroyed. but i think the way of i think punishing people

is not the way forward. we want we want to inspire people. so, for example, marching and stopping the traffic, you know, for the people that stop oil , for the people that stop oil, people that want to do the. >> so that's not a good argument to you, esther would be, yes, we should do as much as we can for the environment and the planet. >> but but when china are building two coal power stations a week and our global emissions are less than 1, what's the point of making ourselves poorer, colder, you know, making our lives miserable when we're making no difference whatsoever? >> yeah, i agree, i agree with you there. why? why make our lives miserable? i don't look, i don't think we should make anybody's life miserable. i think we should all be inspiring people to do something about it. so we actually want to do something about the environment rather than be punished for it . rather than be punished for it. >> and also, i think the richest 1% account for 66% of all emissions. so make it their problem. not regular working class people with just appalling things. they they've really, in recent years diluted the environmental argument because there is a genuine argument about cleaning our waterways, making sure water companies don't pump sewage into the sea, making sure our rivers are

clean, making sure the oceans are clean of plastic. they are genuine things that you should be fighting for. yes, yet they throw in the climate change debate. people say it's settled. i argue it's not. >> and actually the conservative party haven't made a very good case for conservative environmentalism because they have thrown themselves into the whole net zero, highly ideological. >> and it puts people off all everything, all the other genuine environmental arguments. i do think, going back to your question, ben, of, you know, are we focusing too much on london? if sadiq khan does lose and ulez is seen to be a big part of why i think that that does, then send a message to all of the other councils considering it like this is a vote loser, so there might be something we can glean from it if it is a loss. >> but what a shame if a vote loser is because because of that one issue that i mean, that would be a shame. >> but i think it's where it's where, you know, the ambition of wanting to do well for the planet then contradicts with people struggling to survive financially and bringing in more harm for them, just getting about their everyday lives. >> i think that those two issues you need to be reckoned. i think

everyone agrees we want a better, cleaner planet and we want to be doing good, but putting that on hard working people that now cannot drive into london, it's just it's a ridiculous thing . ridiculous thing. >> it's, it's anti—democratic that these things would be imposed on people. they wouldn't be able to then unseat those who would impose these policies that have made their lives harder . have made their lives harder. >> yeah, i totally agree with you. talking about imposing policies . what about the policy policies. what about the policy of bringing id to your polling station ? who who didn't who station? who who didn't who actually didn't do their own , actually didn't do their own, didn't take their own medicine? >> oh, someone's just said on gbnews.com/yoursay. ben, the plans for ulez were introduced by your beloved boris. i don't know why you say he's my beloved. no >> oh, yeah, we know, we know. he's your beloved ben. come on mike. >> boris went really off track with his like his his , dive into with his like his his, dive into all the green stuff. he really went unconservative . but was it went unconservative. but was it bofis went unconservative. but was it boris who introduced ulez? i think he kickstarted it. wasn't it? yeah. don't forget, some of this is the conservative government as well. and sadiq khan just implementing what what

he's being told to do. it's not all his fault , but he is a bit all his fault, but he is a bit too trigger happy with it. >> it's all a bit carrie johnson anyway. >> that's the lowest. thank you very much. great start coming up. is it time to ditch the uni books and go along the apprenticeship route? did you go to uni? i did , i didn't, so this to uni? i did, i didn't, so this is going to be a really interesting debate. do you regret it, no . i'm very pro regret it, no. i'm very pro apprenticeships, even though i went to university, so i don't regret it . but went to university, so i don't regret it. but pro apprenticeships. i think you did the right thing. >> yeah, maybe i was explaining my route to, to this to job, emma earlier, and it's very, very bizarre to say the least. >> she definitely dig into that. >> she definitely dig into that. >> i'll get into that. yeah. so yeah, more of that. and, lots more including showbiz after the break and some sport. arsenal playing today . and i did manage playing today. and i did manage to get a ticket in the end, despite being scammed for £160. i did manage to get a ticket, stick with us. we're back after this short

break. >> now we're asking. is it time to ditch the uni books and go along the apprenticeship route instead? >> well, more and more young people certainly think so. with brand new data showing an enormous rise in those interested in learning on the job instead of learning about the job in a classroom. but why this dramatic rise? >> and is university still worth the money? >> joining us now to discuss this is kevin joyce and founder and ceo of bridging barriers, and ceo of bridging barriers, and writer and commentator tom buick . good morning to you both. buick. good morning to you both. kevin, let's start with you. i guess you're going to be, begging for the apprenticeships. you're going to be telling people to get straight into work because it gives you what a head start against those who to start against those who go to uni. that's the reason why. >> but before we even begin, i want to discuss why it is that we're seeing a huge increase in the number of young people applying for apprenticeships. i think in the last year there's been about 60% increase in young people applying for apprenticeships . now, apprenticeships. now, traditionally for young people, the main route to success was going to university. you did have the odd person here and there who didn't go to university, maybe started their

own business and still achieved career success. now for young people who have access to social media and apps such as tiktok , media and apps such as tiktok, they can see their peers who a lot of them are at a young age have career success. and for young people, for a young person, you might compare yourself to somebody and you want that success at an early age . so i believe that an age. so i believe that an apprenticeship gives you that opportunity from a young age to get that real life experience, not being any debt as well, and really build those key skills and set yourself up for career success. >> success. >> so yeah, the debt is the key one there. so emma, you were saying you're still paying off your student loan, right? so tom, the rest of my life i will be. is it not the case that people who choose to jump into apprenticeships and get real life work experience are going to be years and years ahead, both in experience and financially ahead of their peers who have gone to university . who have gone to university. >> yeah. good morning. >> yeah. good morning. >> i think the key thing here is that we don't want to boil this debate down to an either or. the fact is, if you look at some of our most selective universities, only about 2% of students with good a—level grades who've had

free school meals get into those universities. so there's still a challenge, actually , for those challenge, actually, for those young people who do you know, who are bookish and want to go to university , you get great, to university, you get great, great grades often from working class backgrounds. they can't get into those institutions. so that's the social mobility point. i think kevin's absolutely right. what we've got . to do in this country, particularly with our productivity currently in the toilet, is really create these high quality pathways, what you might call learning and earning. right. we need those high level skills to meet that productivity gap. and degree. apprenticeships actually are the way to go. there are 30,000 young people as we speak on those degree apprenticeships . oops. the apprenticeships. oops. the trouble is, for every one, degree apprenticeship where you have a job, you're applying with a university, three other students want that opportunity and we haven't got the employers out there offering those places. >> kevin. it's also about responsibility and maturity, isn't it? because if you go straight from school into being in an environment with people who are older than you, more experienced than you, and you

learn from them , then you're learn from them, then you're becoming an adult essentially sooner than if you were to go to university for 3 or 4 years and muck around and then struggle to then get into the real world when you're in your 20s. >> yeah, no, totally agree with you. and i think that that's where the argument on university degree versus university experience does come in quite handy, because for some people, they feel like the degree isn't as worth it. however, being at university vie having the opportunity to build life skills, especially if you're somebody who goes university away from home, you're living alone , and you have the alone, and you have the opportunity to join university societies and build those key skills that you can talk about in interviews with employers is obviously really valuable as well. so i think although degrees for certain industries maybe might not be as worth it because of how competitive it is nowadays, the experience that you are able to get is really valuable. >> and tom, when i was growing up, going to university was a really privileged, special thing. if somebody said, oh, i'm going to university, you know, as a kid, i was like, wow , as a kid, i was like, wow, that's that's amazing. but now everyone seems to go to university . anyone can go and

university. anyone can go and study any old degree. and i just wondered if you think too many people these days do go to university and get degrees that you know they don't really need ? you know they don't really need? >> well, on the point about three, four decades ago. you're right. i mean , less than 10% right. i mean, less than 10% went to university. i'm the first person in my, household generation to go to university. there'll be many people watching this who had that experience back in the 80s, back in the 90s. i don't think it's about sending too many people to university. i think the real issue here is what we need for a lifetime of working, where people increasingly change jobs after a few years, technology is coming in, people need to upskill and reskill . we need to upskill and reskill. we need to ask the question, have we got a lifelong learning system in this country, which the universities are a part of that? right. as well as these degree apprenticeships and the role of employers is that working in the interests of individuals and the economy as a whole? and on the point about wages and earnings for graduates ? yes, we do know for graduates? yes, we do know that about a fifth of graduates

are in non—graduate jobs, as it's described at five years after leaving university, but 4/5 are and on average, a university graduate earns about £100,000 more over their working lifetime . so i just think we've lifetime. so i just think we've got to be careful with this debate. don't sort of boil it down to a, you know, we've got to kick the ladder of opportunity away for those that want to go to university, as a sort of false argument, really, we're saying we just want people to get into work. what we need in this country is a really productive economy. that's why wages are stagnating . and that's wages are stagnating. and that's why we're falling down. the international leagues . international leagues. >> tom, very, very quickly, does this not undermine , you know, this not undermine, you know, the number of people going to universities who could be studying, say, law or certain medical related subjects? they could be doing that in a practical context through apprenticeships. doesn't this undermine the academic purposes of universities? isn't this something that's playing into the crisis and commercialisation that we're seeing in universities ? universities? >> more generally, those who go to medical school, you know,

they do get a huge amount of work experience. that's why we've got junior doctors working so many hours, pulling in shifts at the nhs. we've now got law firms that are offering these degree apprenticeships. you don't have to go to university at full time to be a lawyer. there are, huge. well, there are over 600 standards for the apprenticeships, many of them are now at degree level. so what i'd like to see really is us getting that balance, you know, between learning and earning. that's what will really get this economy going. kevin last word very quickly. >> so the last word is university isn't for everyone. it's definitely a career. sorry. it's definitely a career. sorry. it's definitely a career. sorry. it's definitely an avenue that you should take if you feel like it's necessary for what you want to do in the future. however, it's definitely not a one size fits all and you should definitely explore different routes that you can achieve career success. >> okay great stuff kevin osei, founder and ceo of bridging barriers and writer and commentator tom buick , thank you commentator tom buick, thank you very much for joining commentator tom buick, thank you very much forjoining us commentator tom buick, thank you very much for joining us this morning. now, in the last few minutes , keir starmer has been minutes, keir starmer has been speaking at a rally in the east midlands. should we have a

little listen, what you had to say? >> we got him there. i don't think we do . think we do. >> clare and the whole team here. >> this is a fantastic victory, a really important victory . a really important victory. >> you fought for this with a very, very positive campaign. i came here myself to campaign with you. i was struck by the positivity of the case that you were making, and you were rewarded with the trust and confidence of the voters in the east midlands , a really, really east midlands, a really, really important area for us, the underlying constituencies, the voters across the whole of the east midlands came out and voted labour and that is a very significant moment in our history. and when the history books are written about this penod books are written about this period of our political history in the united kingdom, this will be part of that story. the day you were able to persuade people that we are a changed labor party with a positive plan to take to the country , and they

take to the country, and they can safely put their vote against the labour cross, a very, very significant and important victory that vindicates the hard work of the last few years , changing the last few years, changing the labour party. country first, party second and being clear about the positive case that we make as we go forward . i think make as we go forward. i think the message here is very, very clear and i think across the east midlands there's been a sending of that message to the government, which is we're fed up with your chaos, with your failure 14 years and i'm sorry, i don't care which political party you support if you leave your country in a worse state than when you found it 14 years later, you do not deserve to be in government for a moment longer . so in government for a moment longer. so this this was a vote for clare. it was a vote for the

east midlands. it was a vote for the country. it was a vote for change. and it now is upon us to deliver that change to each of those people that put their faith in us in the vote here in the east midlands, and we will do so with a positive case for the country. we will pick up the nhs and put it back on its feet and give it a future . we will and give it a future. we will make sure that our streets are safe for all of our communities and our businesses. we will make sure that we're building houses that people can afford to live in across the country. we will make sure we've got those secure jobs for the future of generations to come. that falls to us because today is the day that we celebrate the beginning of the turning of the page, one of the turning of the page, one of the turning of the page, one of the last milestones. now, as we go into that general election. so enjoy this moment. we have lots of work to do, but this is vindication of the hard work . let's turn the page on work. let's turn the page on decline and usher in national.

>> so sir keir starmer there saying that labour will turn the page emma on national decline. he did make a good point, which ihave he did make a good point, which i have to agree with, how can you leave the country in a worse state than when you found it talking about the tories? yeah, arguably the tories had to deal with covid, the russian invasion of ukraine. they were in a coalition for 3 or 4 of those years, i get it. but he's talking about rebuilding the nhs and rebuilding the country. but when you've got uncontrolled mass migration and you haven't got the facilities to support it, that's only going to get worse. unless he understands to fix that. >> i mean, what ideas do they have to actually fix and reform the nhs? do we really trust them to, to handle the border situation any better than the conservatives so he does have a point in saying that, you know, in any criticism that you make of the conservative party, obviously is going to have a point. but when he says turn the page, i mean, it's so meaningless, isn't it? he's got this miraculous way of saying lots of words, but somehow it just washes over you. i always in one ear and out the other. >> i always think sir keir gets briefed with certain buzzwords every morning when he wakes up, before he does the media rounds,

they'll say, like today's word of the day is this or this, because he'll say it all throughout the day. you watch later on if keir starmer is back on any tv channels, he'll be saying turning the page. >> i think someone's paying it to him underneath his pillow while he's asleep. so just slow, slowly seeps in and then comes out of his mouth later in the day. it is easy to shout from the sidelines and say what you do to fix things, because you're not in power. >> but as soon as you get in power and you know what they'll do as soon as they get in power, if and when that happens, they'll blame things. they'll blame the facts. they're not getting things done on the tories. they'll say , we were tories. they'll say, we were left in such a mess that it's difficult to get things done. what is so interesting is that obviously they're taking these local results as a harbinger of things to come . with the general things to come. with the general election, that there's going to be a labour landslide. >> it's going to be like 1997, but also what's clear from these results is that the labour party is also riven by by division. and as soon as they're in government, it's going to become more obvious where those various fault lines are. whereas obviously it's very clear with the conservatives because they

have been in power for so long. but as we've seen with these, these results and they're so unpredictable, and particularly the issues we've been seeing on the issues we've been seeing on the on the channel this morning about the muslim vote and the effect of that on labour in certain areas, and particularly we might see later , here in we might see later, here in london as well. i think it's very clear that actually that they're sort of slightly , they're sort of slightly, there's a slight veneer over the divisions that lie beneath the surface. >> it's been a good couple of days for labour, i guess, but there are some concerns there for them. as you said, the muslim vote and they need to resolve that pretty promptly, it'll be interesting to see what happensin it'll be interesting to see what happens in london. >> yeah. can't wait. what's the time? a couple of hours to go. 2 pm. darren grimes will be with p.m. darren grimes will be with you revealing that result. but until then, we've got plenty more to come, including prince harry, who looks set to meet his father, king charles, next week in london. we're going to have all your latest royal news in just a short tick. this is saturday morning live on gb news, britain's channel . and. >> we are proud to be gb news

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i >> welcome back. now, don't forget to send your views into your views. gb news your views. gbnews.com/yoursay. still still trying to learn what the new one is. and so we've got lots of emails coming in. jason has got in contact with us, saying that his youngest daughter dropped out of university when the fees kept going up and is now earning double the average wage in training , in the training, training, in the training, management of managers in nurseries and as a consulting saint. >> interesting. and marcin says

it was tony blair's government that told all our youngsters they should be going to university instead of taking up apprenticeships. the entry requirements, the entry requirements, the entry requirements were dumbed down to let more go. and dave says good morning dave. i'm fed up of listening to your junk. starmer how about you tell us exactly what your policies are going to be and how you're going to pay for it. sound bites, sound bites is all you hear from him. >> we've got one here, also from mike, who says university. most leave with a degree and work in mcdonald's. ask kids what? what are you studying? media studies or sociology? joke degrees . get or sociology? joke degrees. get them into the nhs, police services like it was back in the day. >> say what you really think, mike. don't sit on, don't hold back. that's what i was saying as well. i've said it a few times over there in recent months at my old newspaper, we had people coming in from university with degrees coming out their ears. they couldn't pick up the phone or knock on someone's door and ask a basic question. so i personally favour real life experience. >> i think if you go to if you go to university, you should go because you want to do something specific, like you want to study

a certain academic subject in an academic context , you a certain academic subject in an academic context, you shouldn't be going to university just because you need it as a qualification to get a job. >> most jobs shouldn't need, or just because you want a party every other weekend . well, one every other weekend. well, one man who was infamous for partying was prince harry because he's back in the uk next week and he's set to meet his father, the king, as he jets in to attend an invictus games 10th anniversary event. >> king charles was recently cleared to resume public duties following cancer treatment. >> so joining us now in the studio to reveal all the details on this mega reunion is royal reporter sarah—louise robertson sarah, good morning to you. morning. what's going on then? this is the. it'll be only the first or second time harry and the king have reunited since his cancer. >> cancen >> that's correct. >> that's correct. >> ben. yes? it's the second time that prince harry is set to meet with his father, king charles. it will be a very short visit, because obviously, king charles is very busy. harry has a busy schedule himself, and the last time he was here was in february, when the king's cancer diagnosis was announced and harry only got to spend 30 minutes with him. that trip was

will it be long or short? well, i think harry's hoping for a longer audience with his father, but it depends what's said between them. but i've been told that since february, harry and his father have gone on to exchange lots of positive messages . there's been positive messages. there's been positive texts and contact between them and harry's built into his schedule that he has to have time with with his father. >> but no plans for harry to visit kate ? visit kate? >> no, or william as well. the relationship between the three of them is still very, very fractured . william and kate fractured. william and kate really don't want anything to do with the sussexes as it stands at the moment, because of the way that the sussexes dragged them. >> so is that from kate and william's side? because i find it unbelievable harry wouldn't visit his sister in law who's battling cancer. >> harry. harry has tried to reach out and he does want to. >> he does want to see them. but william and kate have pulled up the drawbridge there just until they get that apology. and i think because the trust, it's that that issue of trust has been broken between the four of them, because whatever they say

they feel gets leaked out and twisted. and until that trust can be healed, kate and william just have no desire to see harry. so far, so long as harry and meghan are involving themselves with all these commercial things , as i think it commercial things, as i think it was a podcasting spotify , well, was a podcasting spotify, well, we've got the nigerian tour they're taking on them grifters, didn't he? yes. the spotify boss. >> yes . as long as they're doing >> yes. as long as they're doing that, you know how how how is it possible for them to gain that trust back from, from william and kate? >> well, that's exactly it, i think. what's happened is there's been so much division and poisonous rhetoric issued from the sussex camp aimed towards kate in particular. that's that's really where that this vitriol has come from. the sussexes towards kate . now sussexes towards kate. now william is obviously very, very fiercely protective of his wife. kate's going to be our future queen. he doesn't want to see his his wife be dragged the way that she has been by them with

these disgusting slurs and accusations of racism and other things. so he's not going to back down from that. he wants to wants to have an apology. he wants to have an apology. he wants to have an apology. he wants to know that they're not going to behave like that again. but what we've seen with harry and meghan taken on this trip to nigeria , after harry's been in nigeria, after harry's been in london for the invictus games. it's them. it's the sussexes themselves trying to present themselves trying to present themselves as these the alternative royal family that's what they're trying to do. so again, they're just always trying to steal the limelight. >> meghan's planning on doing a kind of who do you think you are? she's going to go and well, she did this with malta. >> she stayed in malta. she went to see the marquis, what was his name ? marcus. because i actually name? marcus. because i actually stayed at his house. marquis de pirro, his wife frances at their beautiful house in, in malta, in the capital. and when she was there, she dressed up in maltese costume, which you can do that. but i remember when i was speaking to the marquis and he was telling me that he that she had no interest in the british royal family at that time because it was before she met harry. all she wanted to know

about was herself. they want it all done. >> they want the titles, they want the pomp and ceremony , but want the pomp and ceremony, but they don't want to muck in and do the royal duties. like the alternative royal family. sarah louise roberson, thank you so much. >> thank you very much for short and swift but expert as always. >> thank you. right. >> thank you. right. >> coming up. ain't no mountain high enough. should we seen that? i was thinking of seeing it on your own. ain't no mountain high enough. there we go. >> that's the third bad thing that's happened to you . don't that's happened to you. don't singing on air. >> don't clip it up and put it on youtube. please our greatest fryston. he'll be joining us live in the studio after this short break. this is saturday morning live on gb news with britain's, britain's news channel. stick with

us. welcome back to you with ben and emma on saturday morning. live on gb news. now it's time for our greatest britain segment. because here on saturday morning live, we want to give a spotlight to people who do

amazing things. and this week, we're joined by the motivational speaken we're joined by the motivational speaker, entrepreneur, and adaptive athlete, jamie mcansh. take a look at this. >> what would you do if one day you woke up completely paralysed from the waist down? would your life be over? would you be a burden on society? how would your family cope? what would your family cope? what would your life be like ? it'd be over, your life be like? it'd be over, right? or would it ? because right? or would it? because that's exactly what happened to me. and now i'm proud to say that i play basketball, i played rugby, i handcycle, i've climbed mountains, i've jumped out of aeroplanes . truth is, i've had aeroplanes. truth is, i've had a pretty epic life and i've enjoyed every second of it. i've learned so much about myself and around the people around me, and now i want to share that journey with you so that you can go off. and that you can achieve the things that you've always wanted to do effectively , so that you to do effectively, so that you can climb your mountain .

can climb your mountain. >> amazing. well, in august, jamie will undertake the challenge of summiting mount kilimanjaro. it follows his groundbreaking 2022 climb to everest base camp , where he made everest base camp, where he made history as the first person with complex regional pain syndrome to achieve this feat. using crutches. >> insane. and i'm pleased to say you're with us now, jamie. you are our greatest briton this week. thank you. your story is incredible. i was reading about it earlier. you suddenly. where should we start? let's start from the beginning. you woke up the beginning. you woke up one day in 2014, paralysed . and you day in 2014, paralysed. and you were completely fine before what happened? >> so i had shingles in the november. and i think it's really good to kind of make out that this is a very rare situation. all right. it doesn't happen. it won't happen to everybody. so i had shingles, which attacked my spinal column. and then i went to bed on 6th january 2014, had a massive spasm during during my sleep which ruptured my spine and then

i woke up on the 7th of january in completely paralysed . so in completely paralysed. so there was always an opportunity of me being able to walk again, but no one really knew what that would look like. it also took 13 months for complete diagnosis, which meant that there was no turning back after that. so i've got crpes now in the l2 and l1, l2 , which affects all my lower l2, which affects all my lower limbs and lower organs. >> so how did your life change from pre incident to post quite dramatically completely on its head. >> yeah i mean i went down that whole journey of you know mental health and wellbeing . and i was health and wellbeing. and i was the guy that wore a mask you know told everybody that i was okay when actually deep down, i was falling apart , and then that was falling apart, and then that stress led to a suicide attempt . stress led to a suicide attempt. and that was where my life really changed was at that point when i hit rock bottom. once you hit the bottom, you can't go any further, right? so you can only go forward after that. that's when i found sport. that's when i found basketball . that's when i found basketball. that's when i found basketball. that's when i got into a network of people, and that's when things started

building my confidence. and i just started getting better and better and better. then i went to my physiotherapy and i started all the hydrotherapy, electroshock therapy, mental therapy i did, if there was a word and put word therapy at the end of it, i'd pretty much done it, and then , you know, from it, and then, you know, from there i just progressed and got better and better and better, started playing squash. at robina squash club with an amazing guy called richard plenty , who has been an absolute plenty, who has been an absolute inspiration for me. and he drove me every step of the way. he always sort of nothing was ever too much trouble , and that just too much trouble, and that just got me more and more confident. and then you didn't just settle at squash and whatever else, did you? >> you set your eyes on everest base camp. >> so i've wanted to climb everest since i was seven years old, and you are on screen if a radio listeners are listening. and what's that? is that the bndge and what's that? is that the bridge to. >> so that view of what everyone's looking at now that's hillary bridge. that's the highest suspension, single span suspension bridge in the world, and it spans at 400, i believe, 429ft. and it feels like you're going over the abyss. the wind

is just like you just cannot believe it, but you've got to go over that to get up everest . so, over that to get up everest. so, yeah, that load would put me off. because you don't like heights, do you? so yeah, it's a pretty it's a pretty epic experience. so what's what's the preparation for this like so for for, everest base camp and then mount kilimanjaro. yeah. so the mount kilimanjaro is harder than everest base camp because you're going up into altitude at a lot quicker rate, for me , i did that quicker rate, for me, i did that on crutches. so i've been sponsored and supported by an organisation called tuan, which is a french company. and they make composite carbon fibre cafos , which is basically think cafos, which is basically think of it like an external leg with a blade, like a, like an olympic blade runner's blade that goes down into the sole of my foot . down into the sole of my foot. and what that will do is it will then store the energy on my stepping forward, and then release the energy on my step in away. and how that will work is it will completely support my

limbs with the addition of a back brace, which will then support my spine. and the idea of that is or my challenge is to walk. kilimanoor without the use of crutches. so i want to be able to do it without using crutches and completely unaided . crutches and completely unaided. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so without other than these, these legs , so it, i mean, the these legs, so it, i mean, the team of two have been brilliant. the legs are being made as we speak , layers and layers of speak, layers and layers of carbon fibre being put together . carbon fibre being put together. all for me. it's just. >> so when are you tackling kilimanjaro? when's the big day? >> 2nd of august this year. this year? wow. so yeah. what's next? >> what comes after kilimanjaro? >> what comes after kilimanjaro? >> do you know what? >> do you know what? >> i just want to get that one out of the way. >> yeah, i don't know. i mean, what's next? i'm always up for doing something and i'm always up for challenges. and because it keeps me going. and when i did everest, everest was about my journey from being paralysed to being able to walk. and that was my end goal. kilimanjaro is a whole different ball game, so i've started working with an

organisation called the youth sports trust. they're a national organisation and they aim and target is to get young people back into activity, to get , you back into activity, to get, you know, the nhs say that young people should do 60 minutes of activity a day and i think at the moment they're probably hitting a very small percentage of that 60 even. >> seems like quite a small amount of time. >> so where can people donate to your kilimanjaro fund or find out more, just get in touch with me, jamie ? me, jamie? >> jamie. >> jamie. >> macansh. yeah. jamie. macansh. >> com macansh. absolutely. >> com macansh. absolutely. >> yeah, i think it it might be on the screen, but, yeah, just. >> jamie, you are a real inspiration. as you said , for inspiration. as you said, for most people, sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you, you know, find the inspiration and the motivation to , to, you and the motivation to, to, you know, rise higher and rise from the ashes so. well done. you are greatest briton and best of luck for kilimanjaro. let us know what happens and send us some pictures. >> yes, thank you so much. thank you for having me. >> lots more to come in the next houn >> lots more to come in the next hour, including the latest on the mayor elections. stick with us. we'll be back in just

tick. hello. and a very good morning to you. i'm ben leo, alongside emma webb. and this is saturday morning live. >> great to have your company this morning. and do we have an action packed show coming up for you? >> we do indeed. all the day's top stories with today broadcaster esther stanhope and writer and podcaster lewis oakley . oakley. >> and super saturday, with the results of the mayoral elections in the west midlands, london and greater manchester, as well as other regions to be announced. we're asking if the tories could pick up some momentum after the bleak set of results yesterday. >> yeah, it was a bruising couple of days, wasn't it? we'll also have the latest from the world of sports, including liverpool managerjurgen klopp liverpool manager jurgen klopp hitting out at the lunchtime game stop. 12:30 kick offs. are they good for the game are they not? i'm off to the arsenal game in a bit so for me they're

perfect. and we are counting down the hours. what two hours to go. three hours. three hours until the results of the london mayoral elections are announced. going to find out whether or not the bloodbath is going to be consistent with the rest of the country. sadiq khan, susan hall, who is going to win this race, which apparently rumours suggest is getting tighter and tighter and tighter. the polls weren't to be believed in the weeks running up to the election, apparently. susan hall susan hall has got a big grapple on this race, and particularly in london, it is wildly unpredictable because there are so many factors ulez turnout , so many factors ulez turnout, issues to do with the muslim vote over over the situation in gaza. >> so it really is all to play for. we have no idea what might happen, but we'll find out in a couple of hours with darren grimes. >> and is it is it just a london centric issue? we were discussing earlier with our panel ? i don't think it is. panel? i don't think it is. i think sadiq khan is such a flag bearer of this green agenda. net zero, the rumoured pay per mile scheme that he's going to bring in the war on motorists, is it a

blueprint for the rest of the country? is the toppling of sadiq khan today potentially a cause for celebration for some in other areas of the country? >> as we've seen in oxford, there have been a number of seats won by a party that is pushing back against the low traffic neighbourhoods. so it will be interesting to see whether this pushback against net zero is a is a sign of things to come at the general election, whether people are sick of net zero policies, persecuting them and ruining their lives as drivers . their lives as drivers. >> well, we're less than three hours away. we're going to have all the best analysis in the next hour. then darren grimes is with you for that big result. so stick with gb news today for that. but before we get stuck into anything else, here's your news with ray . news with ray. >> thanks, guys. good morning. 11:02, our top stories from the gb newsroom. the prime minister faces another challenging day after losing hundreds of councillors in the local elections, with 102 of 107 councils declared . the councils declared. the

conservatives have suffered huge losses, including control of ten councils. labour made major gains with the lib dems and the greens also doing well. election expert sir john curtice says the final outcome could be the tories worst performance for 40 years, celebrating a mayoral victory in the east midlands, labour leader sir keir starmer said the tories time is up. >> i think the message here is very, very clear and i think across the east midlands there's been a sending of that message to the government , which been a sending of that message to the government, which is we're fed up with your division, with your chaos, with your failure. 14 years and i'm sorry, i don't care which political party you support if you leave your country in a worse state than when you found it 14 years later, you do not deserve to be in government for a moment longer . longer. >> well, andrew griffith is minister for science, innovation and technology. he told us the pubuc and technology. he told us the public don't want labour's policies. >> look, it's a difficult set of results. i think that was what

was expected going in. there's going to be a very, very simple choice at the next election. who walks through number 10 downing street? is it rishi sunak with his plan that's starting to work now, or is it keir with with no plan or where they do have plans that don't really go with the grain of what the british people want ? want? >> as we've been hearing, the result of seven mayoral contests will be announced today, including london and the west midlands. the battle between london mayor sadiq khan and tory challenger susan hall is thought to be closer than expected. the count started at 9 am. this morning. we could have an indication who has won by early afternoon. sir keir starmer has said. he remains confident that sadiq khan can win a third term. meanwhile, a narrow contest is also likely for conservative mayor andy street in the west midlands, greater manchester, west yorkshire, liverpool city region, south yorkshire and salford will also declare today. we'll also hear results from eight of ten contests for police and crime commissioner boris johnson has thanked polling

staff who refused to let him vote without id. the former prime minister was turned away from a polling station on thursday after he forgot valid identification. writing in the daily mail, mrjohnson said that three villages were right to stick to the rules. the requirement to provide photo id was introduced by mrjohnson when he occupied number 10. a burst water main has left around 31,000 properties without water in east sussex. southern water says the disruption in saint leonards on sea and parts of hastings will continue into tomorrow. the issue was first reported on thursday , forcing reported on thursday, forcing the company to open water bottle stations, schools , a leisure stations, schools, a leisure centre and a theatre in the area have all been forced to close. three people have been charged after protesters blocked a coach taking asylum seekers to the bibby stockholm barge. the met police arrested 45 people after officers were called on thursday morning to peckham, south—east

london. the demonstrators could be heard chanting no borders, no nafions be heard chanting no borders, no nations stop deportations. three have now been charged with obstruction of the highway . obstruction of the highway. motorists are being warned to expect heavy traffic this bank houday expect heavy traffic this bank holiday weekend, according to the rac. around 3 million vehicles will take to the roads today alone . an increase in day today alone. an increase in day trips and short breaks could mean that local routes will see heavy traffic. also, train strikes between this coming tuesday and the following saturday could lead to most roads being busier. fuel prices have gone up by an average of £0.10 per litre so far this yeah £0.10 per litre so far this year. new figures show that the typical price for a litre of petrol reached £1.50 in april, whilst diesel came close to £1.58. the rising prices have added around £5.50 to the cost of filling a typical family car. the rac is calling on the competition and markets authority to crack down on retailers over what they're calling unfair margins, and the king is set to become the patron

of the royal british legion, a role that the late queen held for more than 70 years. it follows a major review of more than 1000 royal patronages following following the death of queen elizabeth ii, charles will now be supporting a further 200 organisations after that review. the decision comes as the armed forces charity prepares to mark the 80th anniversary of the second world war. d—day landings on june the 6th. okay, for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gbb news.com . slash alerts. to gbb news.com. slash alerts. now back to ben and emma. >> thank you ray. now there is only one place to start, and it is of course , the election is of course, the election results. it was a bleak day for sunak, but could the tories see their fortunes turn around today? with the mayoral election results being announced in

london, greater manchester and the west midlands. let's london, greater manchester and the west midlands . let's pose the west midlands. let's pose that question to gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who is outside of city hall right now, and our reporter jack carson, who's up in manchester. thank you both . so, manchester. thank you both. so, olivia, let's start with you. doesit olivia, let's start with you. does it look like the tables may be turning with the chances of susan hall in the london mayoral elections ? elections? >> well, it looks like the result is going to be much, much closer than anyone was predicting a week or so ago . predicting a week or so ago. just ten days ago, sadiq khan was leading by about 20% in the polls, and the most recent poll . polls, and the most recent poll. still, he was leading by at least 10. now though, it looks like everything could be changing. why is that? well, turnout is low. turnout is around 40. and susan hall's team for the conservatives have said time and again that susan hall will do better with a lower turnout and where the turnout is high and low matters too, in the doughnut area, as it's called on

the outer band of london commuter towns like bexley , commuter towns like bexley, bromley, dagenham, etc. those are areas which tend to sway conservative, and those are areas where turnout has been a bit higher, over 40% in most of those places, those are also areas which have been impacted by the ulez charge brought in by sadiq khan, something that susan hall has campaigned fiercely against. meanwhile the inner areas of london, places like hammersmith, camden , the city hammersmith, camden, the city have much lower turnout in some areas as low as nine, 18 or 20. thatis areas as low as nine, 18 or 20. that is not looking good for sadiq khan . ultimately, it's sadiq khan. ultimately, it's going to come down to these unknown factors , factors which unknown factors, factors which we just don't know what's going to happen until the result comes out at about 130. one of those is the muslim vote. the muslim vote is pretty big in london. and of course, muslim voters are on the whole, pretty annoyed with keir starmer's stance on israel and gaza. he has said that israel has the right to defend itself. sadiq khan has taken a very different line.

he's said that that that that gaza should be freed immediately and there should be an instant ceasefire. but whether that will percolate through to voters remains unclear , and that's remains unclear, and that's going to be a huge factor. another factor is what happens to the lib dem vote. traditionally in london mayoral elections , lib dem voters will elections, lib dem voters will put the lib dem candidate first and usually sadiq khan as the labour candidate in second place. this time around, there are no second preference votes. it's all on first preference votes. what will the lib dems do 7 votes. what will the lib dems do ? will they put their candidate rob blackie in first place, or will they think that he has absolutely no chance at all and put sadiq khan in first place? that could make a huge difference to the result of the vote. if it is as close as people are predicting or shock. susan hall manages to scrape a win, there will be questions over whether sadiq khan was the right candidate in london. here's what keir starmer had to say about that. >> sadiq khan was absolutely the right candidate. he's got two

terms of delivery behind him and i'm confident that he's got another term of delivery in front of him. but look, if you look across the country, i'm standing here in mansfield in the east midlands , where we've the east midlands, where we've won a significant victory in the mayoral team here. but that's the pattern across the country. we've been winning in blackpool in a by—election with a 26% swing. we've won in york and nonh swing. we've won in york and north yorkshire, true blue tory territory and here in the east midlands, where there are very many constituencies that matter hugely in that general election. so you know, all of this is done with a purpose. i want a labour government to serve our country. this is effectively the last stop on the journey to the general election. and i'm really pleased that we've been able to show we're making progress. we've earned the trust and confidence of voters and we are making progress towards that general election. so a very, very good set of results for us. >> okay. well all heating up in london. thanks for that, olivia . london. thanks for that, olivia. but jack, we've had an email from jan who says, come on ben,

i know you think the world ends at the m25, but here in greater manchester we are under just as manchester we are underjust as much threat. we have the biggest cuckoo in our nest with george galloway. what's the latest for our friends in the north west ? our friends in the north west? >> well, certainly here in manchester, of course, the voters went to the polls on thursday very much the feeling from the polling coming out of that that andy burnham will secure his third term as the mayor of greater manchester. of course, olivia makes a very good point around the impact of the muslim vote in these big labour areas. manchester, of course, being one of them. pollsters predicting a drop of maybe of 3% in support for burnham at the outcome of this election, but still saying that he will hold on to that third term in his rematch against laura evans , rematch against laura evans, who, of course, was the same conservative candidate who came second back in 2021. burnham in 2021 who got 67% of the vote so could drop to around 63 or 64% because of, as you were saying,

that split. and some people are unhappy , particularly with their unhappy, particularly with their stance on the conflict between israel and, of course, hamas. now here in greater manchester, andy burns focused a lot, focused a lot on public transport. that was a big part of his manifesto as well, to continue the expansion of his bee network with buses and trams particularly, as well. he wants, he wants to create the well, the uk's first housing first city region, give renters more control when they are dealing with landlords . but the with landlords. but the opposition to much of his manifesto trying to end rough sleeping. that's one of the conservative candidates big pledges, as well as, of course, trying to stop and take on some of the criminal gangs which do run around manchester, and the greater manchester authority . greater manchester authority. but particularly as well a lot of the candidates, most of the candidates, including andy burnham, committing to not bringing in a clean air zone within the city. that will please, of course , many people

please, of course, many people down, of course, as we were just mentioning, there in london, that's one of that was one of sadiq khan's policies, which hasn't gone down well in the outer areas. andy burnham and a lot of the other candidates committing to not doing that verification is underway here in greater manchester, but there are no shocks planned here later. >> okay, jack, thanks very much . >> okay, jack, thanks very much. and you, olivia, thank you for your expert analysis. two top reporters there out on the road. ihope reporters there out on the road. i hope jam that satisfies your , i hope jam that satisfies your, desire for some coverage in the nonh desire for some coverage in the north west. and we can talk more about manchester now with our lovely panel. esther sandhawk , lovely panel. esther sandhawk, lewis oakley. welcome back. thank you. should we give politics a little bit of a rest? >> although i did i did just get i got a, i got a message from my friend hello roz. and she said i just want to let you know, esther, that we did vote for the mayor. we voted for count binface. all of her, all of her and her friends have all voted . and her friends have all voted. she said they didn't know who to vote for, so they voted. >> i went to greater london to vote. there was no count binface posters everywhere, all over the high street. so interesting to see how many people have protest, voted for count binface

and on the ballot paper there's and on the ballot paper there's a little picture of a bin. >> you know, they've made it really easy for you to kind of like identify it. and i, you know, so each to their own would be a plot twist. >> you never know. >> you never know. >> count binface please. bizarre things have happened, so first story, what shall we get stuck into ? what about this into? what about this apprenticeship? you had some thoughts on that, esther? >> yeah, well , okay, so my >> yeah, well, okay, so my daughter's about to go to uni, and the cost ? and the cost? >> what's she studying? sorry. >> what's she studying? sorry. >> oh, she's going to be doing, film and french . okay. very film film and french. okay. very film and french. yes. is that one combined degree? yes, it's a combined degree? yes, it's a combined degree. ooh la la, yeah , she's very artistic. but the thing is. right it is so expensive. i mean, i've worked out she's probably going to be close to 100 grand in debt. really? so are you ever going to pay really? so are you ever going to pay off the debt if you go to uni these days? obviously we are going to help to a certain extent . extent. >> esther, i have to ask, are you happy with her decision? have you not given her a nudge to say you could maybe, you know, get into the workplace and earn 100 grand? >> okay, so in our don't don't start an argument in my, my other half's going to have a right go at me after this because because he does think that university is a bit of a

scam. and if you go into film or any sort of broadcasting like this, i'd love to know your story. really, it's about vocational. you've got to do practical, practical, you've got to do work experience . and to do work experience. and apprenticeships are such a good idea. but i think we need to kind of. >> ben and i have completely different backgrounds. >> yes , exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> not very much difference. >> not very much difference. >> i grew up, i grew up in and out of prison and also, no, i went to uni, but i really felt like i was behind by the time i, i started working. >> i've worked at the bbc and in broadcasting it was all about work experience and it didn't really matter what degree you had, but i as you can see, i went to uni quite a long time ago, so my student loan was very, very small, but i was still paying it off for years . still paying it off for years. what about you, louis? >> yeah, well i was, i was i well no , i'm still paying every well no, i'm still paying every month now, but i was the last generation to get it for three grand. >> grand. and then it went up. so i was like, i was quite lucky.i so i was like, i was quite lucky. i mean, would i do it again now? what about your kids? no i mean, i don't want to be the debbie downer, but i just

think, what, like , what is the think, what, like, what is the point? like either of them at this point? like you're going to get a job and still not be able to afford your bills and buy a house?i to afford your bills and buy a house? i think it's so bleak now, the prospects for young people. i also think there's the another parameter to this, which is protecting your kids from just kind of again, i hate the word woke, but, you know, leftist indoctrination because otherwise, if they're not in the real world, speaking and meeting real world, speaking and meeting real people from all walks of life , they're just going to be life, they're just going to be cocooned in this university environment where they're getting , i would say, these getting, i would say, these days, pounded with marxist ideology . yeah, it's not healthy ideology. yeah, it's not healthy to be. well, that's about raising your kids , to be able to raising your kids, to be able to be critical thinkers and be able to put them in university . to put them in university. >> i like to think they do have a mind of their own. yeah. and also they can get a job. i mean, i think you have to work if you're going to uni, you need a job. we've already discussed this. my daughter is definitely going to work. otherwise there's no way she can afford. >> you'll be sending her a couple of hundred quid here. no way. i can't afford to buy any beans. can i have some money? >> what about this story to do with spring cleaning and sleep routines? >> okay, now you picked up this story. yeah. >> this is great. so it's a

great time now as the seasons are changing and it's getting lighter earlier to have a little think about how to jazz up your sleep routine. so some obvious onesin sleep routine. so some obvious ones in here darken your room. that's a that's a great one. i would say this this is actually a hot tip. if you don't already have a fan, get a fan now. because what people do is they wait for there to be a heat wave. and then there's this mad rush for fans and no one can get their hands on one. so we've got two fans up in the loft waiting for the heat wave , changing your bedding. >> do you know what i think if you work in broadcasting, you know about funny hours because , know about funny hours because, you know, before you work in a funny in a in an odd shift role, the only time you ever get up at three in the morning is probably when you get a flight, or breakfast. >> people who work on breakfast show, the producers, the presenters, they get in at three in the morning. yeah. so you wake up at one. >> so i used to go to the bbc. i used to get up at quarter to four and get my car. so i became a sleep activist. so i worked out and i did an experiment on myself. i can give you any tip if you want to have good sleep, you can do an afternoon nap. a

lot of people say, no, i feel groggy. yeah, but you're not doing it properly. okay, so . so doing it properly. okay, so. so according to the author, daniel pink, you can have a cappuccino , pink, you can have a cappuccino, right? you drink coffee, you have a 29 minute nap, set your alarm, get up, and then the caffeine kicks in and you feel like you've had great sleep. >> i used to call them disco naps. >> disco? >> disco? >> a nap puts me in. >> a nap puts me in. >> did you dance a foul mood? >> did you dance a foul mood? >> there's no worse time to meet me than if i've accidentally had. >> how long is your nap? >> how long is your nap? >> i don't know , it could be >> i don't know, it could be any. any length. >> yeah. you see, the thing is, it's all about the length of the nap.soif it's all about the length of the nap. so if you go an hour and a half, you'll be okay. but if it's under an hour and a half. but it's between an hour and an hour and a half, you'll be too sleepy, right? so it's about the length of a nap as well. >> if you're napping on the pebbles of brighton beach, it's probably not going to be very comfortable. >> is that why you did the disco napping? >> exactly. yeah. >> exactly. yeah. >> one thing that's not in the idea of your nap being passed out for a big night out. >> why not? one thing that's not in these sleep tips, though, which i've heard is really good, is having a dog. apparently. and apparently it goes back to caveman days of like , you've got caveman days of like, you've got a beast there to kind of guard you and alert you to danger. and

a lot of people i know that have dogs that allow them to sleep in the bedroom so that it's the best night sleep. >> they have the opposite. yeah >> they have the opposite. yeah >> no, i've got a cat. my cat does sleep on me. my cat sleeps on the bed sometimes. >> i'm just trying to get my two kids out of my bed. talking of beasts, i'm only joking. but prince harry, he's back in london next week. >> i'll take that back . sorry. >> i'll take that back. sorry. >> i'll take that back. sorry. >> good segue, sorry. >> good segue, sorry. >> duke, he's back in london next week . he's meeting his next week. he's meeting his father, the king, for just the second time since his father's cancer diagnosis, harry's going to an invictus games, gig at saint paul's on wednesday, and his father is hosting a garden party at buckingham palace. once they're all said and done, about 7 pm. they are going to meet, apparently. yeah, but crucially, not the princess of wales. oh, i think it's a wonderful story. and obviously you would if you're visiting the country, you haven't seen your dad and he's ill with cancer. of course you go grab a costa. can't wait to see the pictures of them in costa together . just having a costa together. just having a little catch up. >> do you know they might embrace? i would hope so. but, you know, i think it's really important to that. life's too short not to have a relationship

with your family. i know too many people that aren't speaking or they've fallen out because of money or whatever , and we're money or whatever, and we're only on this earth for a very short time . and what a shame not short time. and what a shame not to have a relationship with your own son. own 50“. >> own son. >> it's the trust issue that is really the problem here. and straight after this, they're going to be heading off to nigeria and they're still involved in all of these sort of like commercial and media activities. if you don't have that trust there with your family and you're responsible for breaking that trust down, it's not really it's sort of on you, isn't it? >> it's still mendable, though , >> it's still mendable, though, i think. and we've all got people in our family that maybe we don't wouldn't trust with our bank details or something like that. so they can just not you know, charles shouldn't be going to harry. guess what? you'll never you can't tell anyone. that's not what they're going to talk about. are they not going to tell them anything? >> the king is his father. but it's different, isn't it? if it's different, isn't it? if it's your brother, it's your sibling. whereas a father's probably, perhaps more likely to be to be forgiving and to be wanting to sort of reunite. do you think maybe it's going to be harder for him to mend that relationship with, william and catherine? >> i think it's really, really

hard. i mean, i can't see how they can, but they need to get in a room together. they need to speak to the only way that you are going to break down barriers with when it comes to relationships is by facing it and speaking about it. >> you say. you say life's too short , but some would say, well, short, but some would say, well, that's the perfect reason not to tolerate any nonsense from people, especially a couple who have tried to destroy the monarchy and the future of the royal family. >> i mean, look at, look at meghan as well. >> i mean, meghan, meghan cut her own father off. so obviously she does take the approach of cut people off if they know i don't really agree with that. >> i just think it's a shame. i just think, you know why? why it's so stressful when you have a family feud. i don't know whether you've ever had one, but if you've ever witnessed one or been involved with the family feud, i'm sure many people have . feud, i'm sure many people have. it's really, really stressful and it makes everybody very, very unhappy. now, i know i'm a bit happy clappy here, right, but i do. why make life stressful, unhappy? you know why? why continue it? why continue this kind of like horrible cloud over your over your family, over your

relationship to cuddle and sing? i want everyone to improve. >> i would say sorry, i don't know them personally, but i do think if they haven't come together now and i'm talking about the brothers when your dad is ill, your sister in law is ill. >> i mean, they've had a rough couple of years losing the queen and the duke. so if this isn't going to do it, if you're not going to do it, if you're not going to do it, if you're not going to say, right, let's come together. let's forget about everything. i'm not going to do it now . i don't think it's going it now. i don't think it's going to happen. okay. esther lewis, thank you very much. you'll be back very shortly. coming up, though, we're going to have all the latest from the world of sport. does that excite you? get you going . you going. >> this is all on you, all on me, all on you. >> you go and have a coffee. i'll do it alone. >> stick with us. >> stick with us. >> and cappuccino back in just a . tick. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us @gbnews .com. forward slash your say by commenting. you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you

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>> welcome back. 1127 with ben and emma on saturday morning live. we're going to be going back to the local election results. the london mayoral race. of course. the results. sadiq khan susan hall coming at 2 pm, just a couple of hours over to go. darren grimes will have the results with you live . have the results with you live. and we're going to get more analysis from olivia and jack as well. but first something close to my heart. some sport, with aidan magee. hello. >> good to see you both. >> good to see you both. >> so let's start with something that's really riled liverpool manager jurgen klopp. he's managerjurgen klopp. he's moaning and complaining about lunchtime kick offs , which for lunchtime kick offs, which for anyone who doesn't know, it's football matches that start at 12:30. there's an arsenal game in an hour at half 12 at the emirates. arsenal against

bournemouth. i'm going to that. what's his problem with lunchtime kick offs? is he just being a winger because well he's look he's he's kind of earned the right to have a little bit of a whinge here because it's been on his mind for a long time. >> it's not the first time he's moaned about it. he doesn't have any skin in the game anymore. emma, because he's he's he's leaving liverpool. he's out of the place. he's won the carabao cup. he's out of the fa cup, he's out of europe, they're out of the premier league race. so why not pontificate in the last few games of the season before he departs the set. and so he said that he called it, you know, i think the back page of the daily star today was, crime time television . he called it time television. he called it a crime against football. the fact that the fact that players are being forced to go through this routine of having to go to italy to play, or somewhere around europe to play a player champions league tie or another european tie, and then come back for the early slot on a saturday. surely they should be given an extra 24 hours. grace and liverpool have had more 1230 kick offs than anywhere else than anybody else. this season. >> is it? is it fair or is it just a bit wussy? i mean , just a bit wussy? i mean, they're obviously they get paid a fortune, they get paid a fortune. >> that's what we should say. and the money comes from the broadcasters. there's no question about that. and he's

been he's benefited more than most because he's one of the best paid managers in the world. however there is science behind it, though, emma. you know, there is there is plenty of evidence that see, if you watch players now, sometimes they'll take their shirt off at the end of a game. you'll see them wearing this like micro vest around their shoulders . that's around their shoulders. that's a gps tracker. it also gives you lots of other information detailed analysis to physios to sports scientists. all clubs have these and they used to just use them in training. you can use them in training. you can use them in real matches now and that will tell you give you live data on the touchline which tells you when the player is in the what's the crucially known as the red zone. if they're in the red zone, they're more likely to get to get injured. >> i get that right. yeah, i play >> i get that right. yeah, i play a lot of sport, i get sports science, but what difference is it going to make kicking off at half 12 or 3:00? two hours of extra recovery is going to be negligent. >> well no no no it's 20. but he's he's saying that kick off a yeah he he's he's saying that kick off a year. he wants a sunday kick . year. he wants a sunday kick. yeah he should i think there is science behind that. but look everyone has to everyone has to. there's a compromise to be reached here because you know , reached here because you know, he probably just feels that liverpool have had too many of these 1230 kick offs. ole gunnar solskjaer complained about it two seasons ago. i think it was.

they played everton away from home after a european tie and he said we've been set up to fail and it always seems to be on bt or now known as tnt because they , they have, they have that. they're the ones who use that 1230 saturday slot is this point that it's holding. >> it's holding liverpool back in comparison to other clubs. >> it looks like it because, yeah, because they've had more 1230 kick offs. yeah. that's that's the that's the genesis of what you're trying to say. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> your players are paid like two three 400 k a week. >> i'm paying, i'm playing devil's advocate here. but that's what if jurgen klopp was here now and he would get quite animated about it. that's what he would say. >> so it's a fans game. i'm i, i'm on saturday five tonight. so i'm on saturday five tonight. so i haven't got a lot of spare time today. but i will be lucky enough today to go and watch arsenal play at the emirates. if i hotfoot it from paddington now and that's. >> yeah. so you benefit, you benefit from the kick off. >> you're going to need one of those cappuccinos, a couple of red bulls or a disco nap. >> yeah . what else is going on, >> yeah. what else is going on, aidan? in the world of sport? >> well, i think i think this this story grabbed me yesterday about sir jim ratcliffe, the ineos guy who's gone into man united a few months ago. he's bought the place. he's he's taking control of control of football matters and he's done an audit of old trafford and the training ground at carrington just off the m60. there now bear

in mind old trafford is the theatre of dreams. that's what it's been known as since the 60s, since the george best, bobby charlton, denis law era andifs bobby charlton, denis law era and it's been falling into disrepair slightly over the last 3 or 4 years, certainly since sir alex ferguson left in 2013, when overall standards at the club have declined . he did an club have declined. he did an audh club have declined. he did an audit in there this week and he sent an email to hundreds of staff. now he must have known this was going to get leaked to various media organisations, but he's basically said, look, thanks for the welcome and everything , but i couldn't everything, but i couldn't believe what i saw. the place is an absolute pigsty. he said that the standards in terms of cleanliness and tidiness were were on the floor, and he said that i would expect or we have higher standards at my petro chemicals firm, i.e. ineos, than we have at old trafford or county needs to improve . it's county needs to improve. it's embarrassing when you're showing round a potential players. i mean, honestly, it seems like bafics mean, honestly, it seems like basics, he said. manchester united is an elite organisation and i've got a club, so i've got and i've got a club, so i've got a club statement, not a club statement. actually, it's a headune statement. actually, it's a headline in the in the paper it says a club with no standards will not succeed. so he's laying down a marker there to say things are going to change around here. i'm just getting my

feet in the door. i'm getting settled. but ultimately standards down here have declined and i'm the man to sort it out. >> aiden, i read that the entire manchester united squad is up for sale, is that right? >> i wouldn't say that. no, there are there is some there are some quality players under contract who will stay . but contract who will stay. but yeah, there needs to be an overhaul. there's no question about it. something has to be done about marcus rashford. there are huge questions over the goalkeeper. onana, who was signed for a record fee last summer for a goalkeeper but he just simply not performed. there is loads and loads to do, but if you look at your own club arsenal, they're in a similar state of disrepair. maybe 4 or 5 years ago. it's not a short term turnaround. >> how would you describe arsenal now? >> aidan? i think i'm surprised how far they've come . i think how far they've come. i think they're outstanding. i think they're outstanding. i think they deserve to win the league if they get the points, obviously. but they've still got some work to do because manchester united, manchester city rather are a juggernaut. >> all right. well, in one answer who's going to win the league i think man city will hold on i can't see them losing ben. >> sorry sorry ipswich can get promoted today by the way. and from the championship to the premier league. great for the town. if that happens they need one point. it gets huddersfield. >> will be their first return >> it will be their first return in 22 years. two years, 2002 i was i was there i covered them. >> blimey ipswich my age away. >> blimey ipswich my age away. >> good luck to you. who are they playing.

>> they're playing huddersfield at home. huddersfield are all but relegated. not mathematically, but they need a massive goal turnaround. >> all right aidan great stuff. thank you. good to see you both, let's get your news headlines with ray addison . with ray addison. >> thanks, guys. 11:33, our top stories. the prime minister faces another challenging day after losing hundreds of councillors in the local elections, with 102 of 107 councils declared . the councils declared. the conservatives have suffered huge losses, including control of ten councils. labour made major gains , with the lib dems and the gains, with the lib dems and the greens also doing well. election experts sir john curtice says the final outcome could be the tories worst performance for 40 years. sir keir starmer says he remains confident that sadiq khan could win a third term. that's as the battle between the current mayor of london and tory challenger susan hall appears to be closer than expected. the count started at 9 am. this

morning, and we could have an indication of won who's by early afternoon. in total, results of seven mayoral contests will be announced today . a narrow result announced today. a narrow result is also likely for tory mayor andy street in the west midlands, greater manchester, west yorkshire, liverpool city region, south yorkshire and salford will also declare . we'll salford will also declare. we'll also hear results from eight of ten contests, while police and crime commissioner. a burst water main has left around 31,000 properties without water in east sussex. southern water says the disruption in saint leonards on sea and part of hastings will continue into tomorrow . the issue was first tomorrow. the issue was first reported on thursday, forcing the company to open water bottle stations, schools, a leisure centre and a theatre in the area have all been forced to close and motorists are being warned to expect heavy traffic this bank holiday weekend. according to the rac , around 3 million to the rac, around 3 million vehicles will take to the road today alone. an increase in day trips and short breaks could mean that local routes will see

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rob. mac, ben and emma with you on saturday morning. >> line. >> line. >> but what is a big day in the local election results? and of course, this result in london with sadiq khan against susan hall for the morality. let's get the latest now from gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who's outside city hall and reporterjack utley, who's outside city hall and reporter jack carson who's in manchester. olivia, what's the latest ? the latest? >> well, it is looking closer than was being predicted a couple of weeks ago. turnout is low, something which is very much in susan hall's favour , and much in susan hall's favour, and it looks like turnout has been

particularly low in those inner london areas, which tend to be more labour friendly in the outer areas, places like bexley, bromley, dagenham , places which bromley, dagenham, places which have been heavily affected by the ulez charge imposed by sadiq khan. turnout is a little bit higher, just over 40, and those are areas which very much favour the conservative lives. of course, if it does turn out to be a really, really close result, there'll be questions on both sides about the choice of candidate. if sadiq khan just narrowly wins to susan hall, there will be conservatives asking if they should have chosen a stronger candidate. susan hall is popular among her base. she has a very loyal, very supportive base, but some have argued that her campaign has been gaffe prone. sadiq khan, meanwhile, is unpopular in huge swathes of london because of the introduction of ulez. this is what keir starmer had to say. >> sadiq khan was absolutely the right candidate . he's got two right candidate. he's got two terms of delivery behind him and

i'm confident that he's got another term of delivery in front of him . but look, if you front of him. but look, if you look across the country, i'm standing here in mansfield in the east midlands, where we've won a significant victory in the mayoralty here. but that's the pattern across the country. we've been winning in blackpool in a by—election with a 26% swing. we've won in york and nonh swing. we've won in york and north yorkshire , true blue tory north yorkshire, true blue tory territory. and here in the east midlands, where there are very many constituencies that matter hugely in that general election. so, you know, all of this is done with a purpose. i want a labour government to serve our country. this is effectively the last stop on the journey to the general election. and i'm really pleased that we've been able to show we're making progress. we've earned the trust and confidence of voters and we are making progress towards that general election. so a very, very good set of results for us. >> now, jack, we've just heard from keir starmer there. what's the latest up in manchester. is it looking like a labour

landslide . landslide. >> well definitely i think so. that's the feeling certainly from the polls that have come out since election day. we think that andy burnham might lose a few percentage points in his race to try and win a third term as mayor of greater manchester, but as a mayor, he's very, very popular within this authority and this voting area. back in 2021, at the last election, he got 67% of the vote, beat second place by 300,000 votes. turnout in this election generally low only around 35. last time out. we're awaiting to hear what the turnout was this year. verification and adjudication of the of the ballot papers still underway behind me, but we are still expecting andy burnham to come away with a win today and win his third term. he's the personal approval rating is around 31. that's a lot higher than many national politicians. of course, he stepped away from westminster as an mp to become the mayor of greater manchester.

he has delivered on many of his promises as well, which has impressed voters. of course, bringing back the bus network and bringing public transportation back into public ownership, a scheme which is plans which are copied in many manifestos for other labour mayors around the regions, particularly down in the west midlands , with richard parker midlands, with richard parker trying to follow on from the scheme that the likes of andy burnham, of course, has brought in here in manchester with the b network. his plans wants to try and expand that out now. of course, he hasn't maybe achieved all of its targets, all of his targets over his two terms as mayor so far, still trying to deal with an issue of homelessness in this city. but he wants to try and improve that. that's one of his big manifesto points for manchester to be the first in the uk to be a housing first city, copying schemes as such that have been used in finland. that's one of the criticisms and his improvement in housing that's come from other candidates . but come from other candidates. but he is still expected to hold on here when we get those results a little bit later this afternoon. >> gosh. well, it's all happening. thank you so much. jack carson and olivia utley

there. now we have darren grimes here in the studio with us. he's going to tell us about what's coming up on his show. >> darren, you have sorry to interject before you've even started. you have the best job of the day delivering the result between sadiq khan and susan hall in london. >> so jealous. if we get it by then, right. it could be. it could be slightly delayed. we don't know what's going to go on behind the scenes. so they're saying any time after half one really they'll know and we'll be on course to actually, you know, deliver that verdict. whatever the public have decided. but it's going to be a really interesting one. i mean, the show itself will be focusing on the rise of religious, sectarian ism as well in this country where actually people are voting along religious divides now. and you mentioned manchester just in you mentioned manchesterjust in that piece with jack there, and actually in parts of the northwest. oldham. yeah, they're going george galloway's party are going hell for leather against labour, around the issue of gaza itself . now, the of gaza itself. now, the viewers, i'm sure you've seen in the your inbox there viewers are

actually not celebrating the fact put it this way and that's putting it mildly , that we are putting it mildly, that we are entering an era of religious sectarianism and the divisiveness, the divisive nature of that and what it means for british politics. >> now these elections feel very different , don't they? to any different, don't they? to any previous elections, so many extra factors that making it very unpredictable to call the outcome exactly . outcome exactly. >> and you know, that's that could be why susan hall, who was not in any way, shape or form meant to be in the running, could have clinched it because voters may have said to sadiq khan, i ain't voting labour because of their stance on gaza, evenin because of their stance on gaza, even in your neck of the woods. >> darren. up in the north—east, loads of green councillors won swathes of seats because apparently you might know more than me. there's big issues with refuse and recycling and so on and same as me down in west sussex, a local green councillor won a stonking majority because we're all a bunch of nimbys and he was promised promising to stop some housing development. but with susan hall. are, sadiq khan's critics going to be

having a wild night of celebrations tonight? if he loses? >> oh, it'll be off the scale. this would be the biggest polling upset since brexit. it would be seismic. so make no mistake, you know, this would be the end of days for most people in the labour party. >> i tell you what we did see didn't we, that in in the, in, tees council that they had a surprise conservative hold there i >> -- >> yeah yeah, yeah. >> yeah yeah, yeah. >> i mean ben houchen had a sort of putin esque majority . right. of putin esque majority. right. this was banana republic territory. how big his majority was. but now this time around, he has lost what, 20 points in in the actual at the ballot box. but he held on. he wasn't expected to hold on. and that's the force of personality. and actually many in tees valley themselves would argue the force of delivery right . of delivery right. >> so you've got the best job of the day delivering that london result potentially. and you're also on saturday five tonight. >> absolutely. 6:00 we're going to be scrutinising all of the things that we've just mentioned. we'll be having a ding dong. i'm sure benjamin butterworth's got some things to say about what's happening in london. and it'll be we've got

fleur coming in, who was a newbie for the saturday five, but she's great. she a host of the blonde bombshell podcast. sounds good. so yeah, look forward to that one. >> six eight 6 to 8. ummi, benjamin, fleur, albie that's it. all the band. absolutely good stuff. >> all the lads all the lads , >> all the lads all the lads, all the lads. and alas you come back next week . back next week. >> bye. >> bye. >> thanks for gender neutral term sharon . term sharon. >> yes. adhere to that, still to come. we're going to be getting all of your views on the london mayoral race. as we just said, darren is going to deliver that massive news in just a second. but yeah, more still to come just after the break. stick with

us. >> good morning. just. we've only got ten minutes to go. almost. you are watching saturday morning live with emma and ben . and now there are over

and ben. and now there are over 100,000 children and young people living with epilepsy in the uk and with over 40 different types of seizures for many , the condition can be many, the condition can be frightening and isolating. >> yeah, so our next guest, chris mccarthy, he was diagnosed with epilepsy himself at just 17 years old, and although it ended his dreams of becoming no less a formula one driver, his determination to get the get to the paddock led him to becoming a formula one, formula two, formula three commentator. he also works with national charity young epilepsy to help raise awareness in the sport and beyond. >> now we're delighted to say that we are joined by chris now. thank you for joining that we are joined by chris now. thank you forjoining us. thank you for joining us. morning, chris. >> thank you for having me . so >> thank you for having me. so tell us about your story again. let's start from the beginning . let's start from the beginning. you were racing in go karts as lots of formula one drivers start out doing whizzing around the track. yeah, and you got to 17 years old. what happened? yes. >> so i'm you know like all young drivers, you know, starting out in karting , my, my starting out in karting, my, my dream was to come a formula one driver. but at 17 i was on the point of looking to get into

single seater racing. and then unfortunately at that point i was diagnosed with epilepsy. when i was at a racetrack, trackside , unfortunately, i woke trackside, unfortunately, i woke up in the back of an ambulance and, and being told at that point when you have a seizure, you're told at that point that of course you can't drive on the road for a year. but then you can't drive on a racetrack for five years, you've never had epilepsy before. you've never had a seizure before. just. no. came out the blue completely? >> no, i wasn't officially diagnosed until three years later. but at that point, you're told that, you know, that's five years. unfortunately, my race license was was taken away from me. so my dreams then of making it to a high level of racing were brought to a pretty abrupt end, unfortunately. >> how did you deal with that emotionally? did it take you . emotionally? did it take you. long to accept it? >> did, yeah it did. i just started doing college at the time, doing tv and film. that was the industry. i wanted to go and work into, but i wasn't probably the best person to be around as i started college shortly afterwards, but to i had

when i came back to the track the next month to thank the medical staff and, and see my former team—mates and, and the rest of the paddock, i had to decide, you know, when i, when i left the paddock after that, i realised that might be the last time i ever leave a race paddock. so i had to make a pretty quick decision if i want to stay in the paddock, how do i do that? i was no good with using tools. mechanic and engineering wasn't really going to be my thing. engineering wasn't really going to be my thing . i tried to get to be my thing. i tried to get into engineering and it didn't work, so i just came up with this, this idea, why don't i film the races that i was once racing in? they they'd never been filmed before. i had all this access to this equipment, these, these cameras and these edit suites. i was doing tv and film. we'd been set a task of filming a live production as our end of year college project . and end of year college project. and so that's what i did. i grabbed a load of my college mates and a load of cameras and spoke to my the championship that i raced in, and we went down and started filming some races. >> and is that how you ended up getting into commentating? yes, precisely. >> we filmed about five races and the championship loved it.

they hired us to do the whole of the what was then the 2013 season. and my, my father said to me, look, it's great. it just needs some commentary over the top of it. and i was actually going to go and hire someone to do that, but my dad said, why don't you just give it a go? you know, you're filming it. it'll make it so much easier, you know, all the drivers. and so that's what i did. i did it in my front room for the first time. it took about 4 or 5 takes the first time i did it. >> and there you are on the screen for radio listeners. it's chris there with his headphones on, his microphone, and you've got the big formula one kids logo in the background . what is logo in the background. what is f1 kids? that's what you commentate on alongside formula two. formula three. what is f1 kids? >> yeah, so that's basically what i did. now. you know, it started, as i said commentating my front room. but ten years later i, i now commentate on on f1 kids, which is essentially an alternative commentary to when you are watching formula one, you are watching formula one, you have the option to watch formula one. but for a kids. broadcast as well, which is myself hosting, and then we have

three very talented young presenters and commentators who come in and do the commentary alongside me, and they do an incredible job, i have to say, and you do a lot of work with young people. >> tell us more about young epilepsy. >> yes. so young epilepsy is the only charity in the country for epilepsy. working with young people currently. and they are currently launching a petition actually trying to help raise awareness and help young people in schools to get the support that they need. because every single young person that their epilepsy is unique to them. and currently 1 in 3 children aren't getting the reporting that they aren't getting the support that they need in school. >> well, you said it took three years to diagnose you. is that is that one of the sort of challenges that people face? there are all these different types of epilepsy, and actually getting the diagnosis is quite difficult . difficult. >> yes, precisely. and it's, you know , different to every single know, different to every single person. it's not just having that seizure, which you, you know, you would recognise. it's the medication that comes with

it.then the medication that comes with it. then the side effects of the medication that comes with it, then it's , you know, the social then it's, you know, the social aspect of it as well. it i was quite i didn't really want to, to go and report that i had epilepsy when i first started working in the industry, because i thought it was going to hold me back . i i thought it was going to hold me back. i didn't i thought it was going to hold me back . i didn't then want to. me back. i didn't then want to. it's a social aspect as well. you don't really want to tell other people that you have it because you think it's constantly going to hold you back in life, and really it's the complete opposite. once you're open and aware about it. people are very, very accepting of it, very supportive of it, and then you can get all the support that you need. and young, epilepsy are young, young epilepsy are currently with young currently working with young people young people and particularly young people and particularly young people schools and parents people in schools and parents with kids in young schools to really help them get the support they need in school to make sure they need in school to make sure they have that support so that they're not they're not held back. >> well, chris, that you're an inspiration . and yeah, thank you inspiration. and yeah, thank you for coming in and sharing your story . it's incredible. thank story. it's incredible. thank you. and i'm going to get my two young boys to tune into f1 kids because we watched the normal f1 at the moment. but he looks out for max verstappen. he's like where's max? where's max? but he doesn't quite understand, you

know the commentary and so on. so i'll definitely get them to tune to in chris mccarthy. thanks for coming. thanks for having me. appreciate it. right shall we get stuck into some of our views before we hand over to darren grimes for the big afternoon show, where we're going to have the result potentially , of the london potentially, of the london mayoral race, peter, you say, who would replace rishi sunak, they are all a bunch of idiots. our fiscal system is broken and has been for some time. mps have forgotten why they're there and who they represent, sheila says the conservatives will be obliterated under sunak. i think she's right . at least with a she's right. at least with a different leader. it would be a more respectable lost. and do you think so? probably more respectable. >> and james says ben's gone way down, in my estimation, being a arsenal fan, a gunner. >> well, we're not all perfect, are we? talking on that note, i'm off to the emirates now. thank you for joining i'm off to the emirates now. thank you forjoining us, emma. thank you for joining us, emma. thank you for joining us, emma. thank you for being with us. and yeah, darren grimes is next. have a fantastic weekend.

>> hello. and a very warm welcome to gb news saturday, i'm darren grimes, and for the next three hours, i'll be keeping you company on tv, online and on digital radio. this show will keep you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. coming up this hour. are we about to see one of the biggest shocks in british political history ? it's sadiq khan versus history? it's sadiq khan versus susan hall in the race for london mayor. sources say it's closer than anyone was expecting. i'll bring you the result as soon as it happens. and we'll be, of course, across all of the other mayoral results today with seven declarations taking place across england, will the two andys that street and burnham be victorious ? and and burnham be victorious? and what does it mean for politics on the national scale? has starmers labour party lost the muslim vote? is the right, and

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