sure that we reclaim our streets back from the extremists, suella braverman there speaking to us earlier this morning. >> well, while opposition leaders are calling for a general election now, government minister mark harper insists the conservatives are focusing on the priorities of the british people. >> i think all conservatives now need to get behind the prime minister. as the chairman said in his article this morning and take that message to the country . we see from the analysis the experts have done that . the experts have done that. the results show that the position is closer than the polls are suggesting. so it's everything is delightful for the next election, and we're absolutely up for that fight. >> mark harper well, in other news, a candle lit vigil has been held today for a teenager who was stabbed in north—east london earlier this week, 14 year old daniel anjorin was attacked on his way to school by attacked on his way to school by a man with a sword for other people, including two. police officers were also injured in the attack . marcus monzo, a the attack. marcus monzo, a spanish brazilian dual national, has been charged with murder and

attempted murder to all northern ireland. now, where a man has been left with potentially life changing injuries, that's after he was found nailed to a fence. police there have described the attack in the residential area of bushmills as sinister and brutal. officers who attended the incident also said two vans had been set on fire in a car park near to where the man was found. police now are appealing for anyone with information on all those who may have dash cam footage to urgently call 101. a man has been arrested on suspicion of organising people trafficking across the english channel. the 38 year old, who claims to be an iraqi, was detained in preston in the early hours of this morning. it relates to crossings made in november and december from france to the uk. last year he was detained as part of an investigation into an organised crime network in israel. benjamin netanyahu claims the next 7th of october attack is only a matter of time away. if

he agrees to a ceasefire with hamas. the israeli prime minister has ruled out a pause in fighting in exchange for hostages because , he says, the hostages because, he says, the terror group are still a threat. meanwhile, he's also ordered the closure of the al jazeera news network in israel, where police have raided the station's offices in jerusalem. benjamin netanyahu claims the network is a mouthpiece for hamas . and a mouthpiece for hamas. and finally, southern water says suppues finally, southern water says supplies are gradually being restored to more than 32,000 properties in east sussex. homes in saint leonards on sea and in hastings have been without water since a pipe burst there three days ago. the damage was repaired yesterday , but the repaired yesterday, but the company says services still need to be restarted. those are the headlines. more to come at 8:00 with another update. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gbnews.com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> queer straight women les

dennis's pronouns. the nhs discovers biology and jerry seinfeld says political correctness is killing comedy . correctness is killing comedy. it seems to be making it. this is free speech nation . welcome is free speech nation. welcome back to a bank holiday weekend free speech nation special with me josh howie standing in for andrew doyle. andrew is presently here and i'm not jealous at all because this is the show where we take a look at culture, current affairs and politics and of course , we'll politics and of course, we'll have the latest from those lovable culture warriors. incredibly, there are still a few things they haven't had cancelled yet. coming up on the show tonight , jerry seinfeld show tonight, jerry seinfeld says political correctness is killing comedy. says political correctness is killing comedy . and i will ask killing comedy. and i will ask the director and producer, gary sinner, if he's right. women's rights campaigner jennifer watson has had enough of the traditional pride march and is planning to set up an alternative. she will join us to reveal all the details and the

new book, trans mania is causing a sensation in france, with the deputy mayor of paris even calling for its adverts to be taken down. one of the authors, dora motit, will be joining us and of course myself and my fantastic panel will be answering the questions from our wonderful and very hot studio audience. my studio guests this evening are drinking buddies chris de wetten and bruce devlin. alice hello. welcome. >> hello guys. >> hello guys. >> so you are dressed obviously for this for an air conditioner that's broken down here. very clever, very nice white trainers on there . thank you. you not so much. >> well thinner fabric than you've got i am you are layers. >> i am shvitzing as we were. we say but has andrew ever asked either of you to go on holiday with him.7 >> with him? >> yes, and i declined . yes. >> yes, and i declined. yes. >> yes, and i declined. yes. >> you may. what about you, christa? well no. >> we pop up to leeds for a gig now and then, but it's not really a holiday. no.

>> did you. why did you decline? >> did you. why did you decline? >> i'm not keen on him. >> i'm not keen on him. >> okay, well, these are the valid reasons, i guess. i have been on holiday with him and it was a nightmare. let me just say, if he brings out the trivial pursuit, say no. he knows literally everything, and it's terrifying. and if you just want to feel very stupid for the holiday, that's good. but you guys had a good week. >> yeah, we've been up to leeds together, for comedy unleashed. i'm still recovering. he's fine. obviously very good. well, it's been our year anniversary. >> it has been our year. yes. there you are. >> yeah. i met chris a year ago in leeds, and we stayed in wakefield on friday. yeah, i'm still washing that off. >> they have, they've been drunk ever since. right. let's get this show on the road with some questions from our wonderful, dedicated audience. our first questions from helen. hello. hello following the local elections is a labour landslide now inevitable? >> yes . so with the general >> yes. so with the general election, incoming. the conservatives took an absolute dripping, dripping drubbing. i'm dripping, dripping drubbing. i'm

dripping in the local elections this week and now have fewer councillors than the lib dems for the first time since 1996, just before tony blair's labour landslide, things went from bad to worse for them on saturday, as sadiq khan easily won a third term as london mayor and tory incumbent andy street, lost in the west midlands mayoral race to labour's richard parker. so what do you think? is it ? they what do you think? is it? they could have had it bad. we want to hear what helen has to say about this. what do you think? >> is it over on the mike a bit too quickly then? yeah, yeah, i think it's inevitable. yes i do think it's inevitable. yes i do think it's inevitable. yes i do think it is likely that we will have a labour government. i think that's what everybody thinks. yes. i don't think there's any two ways about it. i think it's inevitable. >> is it even worse having an election? >> we've got a left leaning conservative government at the moment anyway. it's going to be even more left. so that's what labour usually means, but we'll see. what do you think, bruce? i think the snp will get in and i think the snp will get in and i think i think that'll be a nice change for everyone. >> that'll be fun. yeah

>> that'll be fun. yeah >> it's going to be, it's going to be an interesting, what, six months of this. but it does seem like it is somewhat of a foregone conclusion for years already. >> well, there's one person who thinks that the conservatives have still got a chance, and unfortunately, that's rishi, he's still saying we're going to do everything we can and he's keeping a positive face on it, but he must be so stressed privately. >> yeah. i mean, the home secretary, james cleverly, said that this is just it's just the local elections. and he thinks that by the time the general election, they're going to sort of swing back. >> well, look, i mean, it's all possible, isn't it? i don't think it is, no, absolutely not. they're on their way out. they've had 14 years. everyone's bored. it's time for a change, i can't see. i can't imagine what could happen. what could what would starmer have to do now for them to. not actually. >> it's like you'd have to say that, like, you know, women have a penis, crazy things like that . a penis, crazy things like that. is there anything what would your advice be to rishi sunak? >> oh, to pipe down. really? yeah. no, i think he should actually i'm, i again and i've said it before on the show is by trousers that fit, you know, get

the breaks down to your ankles because he does go around as though his budgies died in like kind of lovely ladies. >> he wears them like that because he thinks it makes them look tall. >> but it doesn't. he just looks like a fool. >> it's it so okay, so any sartorial decisions, do you think that's what's going to break it for the tories or any actual policy, the trousers or any other policies that you might want to put in, well, i mean, obviously, you know, they recently, the french started attacking the small boats with knives. you know, i think maybe we got some shots of rishi actually doing that himself, wading out and doing that personally. but he's not going to do that. >> it probably is a spoon. he probably would. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> he'll keep the trousers short for that then. so they don't get wet in the water. so that kind of negates my advice. so but you know he might do that i don't know. do you think that labour will get in. >> i think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion. yes >> he just needs to happen doesn't it. >> that's the thing is, now that we've still got like this kind of six months of it, it's okay if you will. >> well we've had starmer this week haven't we, calling for the

election now, now, now and calling it a zombie, a zombie government at the moment. not that. i mean why would rishi listen to keir? there's no reason for him to do that. >> well, if he's a zombie, he won't listen. >> well, no, but you just saw suella braverman there in the news. i mean, she was. she's livid. she was hardcore. >> she is livid. you know, you may not agree with her on everything, but she's very much an authentic version of herself. >> she did say what she wanted to say. >> oh, she meant business. >> oh, she meant business. >> it was pretty public. yeah. all right, well, look, our next question is from penny. hello, penny. >> hello, do we think has common sense won the day at the nhs? >> yes. has common sense won the day at the nhs? yes. so someone seems to have woken up and realised people are more interested in the nhs making sick people better than calling them by their correct, correct pronoun. health secretary victoria atkins is making changes to the nhs constitution , changes to the nhs constitution, which will see phrases like chestfeeding and people with ovanes chestfeeding and people with ovaries outlawed. even keir starmer is getting on board to get the clarity is it right or is it wrong for rosie duffield

to say only women have a cervix? >> well, look, biologically she of course, is right about that. >> do you owe her an apology? >> do you owe her an apology? >> well , yes. >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> do you owe her an apology? this has been this has been somewhat ongoing. but, actually, of course, the nhs constitution, my understanding is it has to be changed or ratified by, the health sector. every ten years. so it feels like this is coming more from the government. and that's not actually coming from the nhs at all. >> oh, you mean because it's just time. it's just like it's time to have a look at the lease sort of thing. >> the ten years are up, but it's just also a lot of nhs leaders are kind of saying, oh no, we should not do this or there's going to be complications. it feels like it's not coming. it feels like the nhs is still institutional captured and this is the government going finally know enoughis government going finally know enough is enough. sex matters right? >> yeah. so okay, so i said there was nothing rishi could do. i mean, this helps, doesn't it. it's time. it's time, that was fun watching that. i'd like that to have gone on a bit

longer. i think the bit i was really going to enjoy was when he did or didn't give his apology. that's what i'd like to. >> well, also, i think they should have just bought rosie duffield in front. yeah, we've got rosie here. >> fantastic. yes like a sort of 90 cilla black's. yes. brilliant. >> yeah. matthew tonight i'm rosie das. yes. i'm dry ice. >> surprise, what was the question? has common sense provoked? well, just just as you say. >> but you say it's got that's that's that's my fear of it, what kind of changes do you know, bruce, that this might actually make to the constitution in terms of women's health care? >> i genuinely have no idea. and i'm not going to pretend that i do. right because i really don't. well, let me tell you. but on the same episode, richard madeley was discussing shoplifting. >> okay , that's very you. that's the. >> so if you give that a google, you'll understand what i'm talking about. allegedly. allegedly. so okay. >> well i'll head back to leicester for this question then , because a lot of the problems have been really you'll be a woman in hospital and you won't think are any men going to come into this space? >> i mean, that's the number one

thing, isn't it? we've heard endlessly about women's spaces. >> yes, because at the moment there's been a misunderstanding. and part of that's been through stonewall and other organisations as presenting the law as being you know, having sex, being gender and that's been the complication. so it seems like by saying no sex means biological sex, that will seemingly solve a lot of these issues, like language in terms of chestfeeding and make it actually relevant to biological women again, but also so that women again, but also so that women with intimate care, is that correct, that they will now be able to request that a doctor or a health care professional who is of the same biological sex, right? >> yes. and not be called bigoted or refused service in some cases. some cgses. >> some cases. >> yeah. and there was a woman as well, i believe, who was raped, actually, on the ward . raped, actually, on the ward. and they and the nhs said, oh, it's impossible. this is a women's only ward, but it turns out it was a right, a trans woman, one of those things that could never happen that that seems to happen now. >> and then. >> and then. >> absolutely. well, hopefully this will, lead to more common

sense leading to our other institutions. we're going to see. next question is from rogen see. next question is from roger. hello. hey, should al—jazeera be shut down in israel? yes should al—jazeera be shut down in israel? the israel cabinet has voted to close down qatari television network al jazeera operations in israel. the vote, which happened earlier today, followed israel's parliament passing a law which allows the temporary closure in israel of foreign broadcasters considered to be a threat to national security during the months long war in gaza . so this months long war in gaza. so this is, of course, free speech nation, press . am i a hypocrite? nation, press. am i a hypocrite? by nation, press. am i a hypocrite? by agreeing with that decision? >> well, as you explained to me earlier, josh, no, you're not. >> yes, i was, i was shouting at you earlier. >> no, i mean, they're not it's not an israeli channel. so there's that . but, obviously there's that. but, obviously channels being shut down is a topic that's very close to my heart, but it's special circumstances , isn't it? having circumstances, isn't it? having said that, i don't completely understand why it's such a threat to netanyahu, because isn't it? you sort of know that

if al jazeera are broadcasting in israel, everyone will, presumably who's consuming that media knows what their agenda is? >> yeah, is? >> yeah, yes , is? >> yeah, yes, it's true, but then it's not just that it's broadcasting in israel, it's that they have offices in israel and are able to use israeli networks to spread what israel would argue is propaganda in a state of war, like in world war two, there were what was it, axis sally ? or there was tokyo axis sally? or there was tokyo rose. there were tokyo drift, there was, yes, vin diesel , but there was, yes, vin diesel, but now axis sally, axis sally. >> these were that sounds like a program i would like to present. >> i must have read this in a book somewhere. these are these were propagandists working for, for the axis who were putting out anti—allied propaganda , but out anti—allied propaganda, but they were doing it on, axis soil in japan and in germany. but the difference is, of course, if they had been operating out of they had been operating out of the uk, we would have they. i'm sure the government would have shut them down and people wouldn't have said, oh, no free speech. this people's rights.

>> actually, it's kind of a surprise. it's taken this long. i mean, it's been months, you know, don't you think? no no, i've just been carrying on regardless since october the 7th. >> well, considering the information has come out that that journalists working for al jazeera participated in october 7th, but i think the well, bruce , for me, this would be one thing if whether you know a lot about this issue or not, but journalists, the idea is that they're meant to present information, good or bad, regardless of agenda. that's the idea of impartiality. yeah, we don't always live up to it, but and i don't know if i said we i'm a stupid comic, but, but the point is that the al jazeera journalists working from the gaza and working out of israel are never actually presenting any information that might put hamas in a bad light. so they're failing at their job. surely failing at theirjob. surely it's not that hamas are perfect. they're a terrorist organisation. but that's the thing. >> i don't understand why people are so frightened to call out hamas for what they are and what their aims are and how they

operate, if you see what i mean. well, absolutely. but i think the thing is here that al jazeera gets free rein somewhat to operate in gaza by hamas, but only if they say what hamas wants them to say in this case, like a few weeks ago, there was a thing that supposedly idf journalist idf soldiers raped a pregnant woman in a hospital in front of her family. >> and then it turns out that it was just told a total lies. nothing there, no truth whatsoever. >> substandard journalism. it's propaganda. it's not doing the job it should be doing anyway. >> yeah, well, we've got netanyahu's tweet . i asked him netanyahu's tweet. i asked him to send this personally , al to send this personally, al jazeera correspondents have , jazeera correspondents have, harmed the security of israel andinched harmed the security of israel and incited against idf soldiers. the time has come to eject hamas's mouthpiece from our country. and, of course, al—jazeera are , funded by qatar. al—jazeera are, funded by qatar. and that's where the hamas leadership are presently residing. so it's yes, it makes sense to me. fine. our final question for the moment, it's from izzy . hello, izzy. hello. from izzy. hello, izzy. hello. >> good evening, according to elon musk , jk rowling doesn't elon musk, jk rowling doesn't really know her place. should

she be tweeting about more positive matters on x ? indeed, yes. >> should jk rowling start tweeting about more positive matters? so yeah, elon musk, the owner of x, of course thinks jk rowling needs to be a little more upbeat in her account. so responding to a tweet from rowling about what, in her view, makes a woman, musk commented while heartily, i agree with your points regarding sex genden your points regarding sex gender, may i suggest also posting interesting and positive content on the same, or other matters? i should say sorry . matters? i should say sorry. wow. i mean, look at your face. >> you don't drink wine and then tweet at night. i don't know, i mean, i don't really care. she's a big girl. i think she can handle it. you know, everyone's turning. she's not a girl. >> she's a woman. >> she's a woman. >> oh, god. everyone's turning into this like, oh, my god, he's being so condescending. it's like, it's jk rowling. she's fine. you know, i don't think it needs to be a massive deal. on the other hand, elon, what are you thinking this like? it's so david brent esque. it was just naff. >> well he is a bit naff i think

ultimately. but also there is hypocrisy here because he's never tweeted anything similar to anyone. should we dare say a male who who writes about. >> don't you include me in that? how rude. >> what do you think about that? do you think he was very rude, saying that i, i don't understand about him and taking over. >> oven >> he wanted it to be more free speech and now he's getting involved with what people should or should not tweet. and it's like, why don't you admit you've had a hair transplant? oh, that would be my thing. >> there's nothing wrong with hair transplants. >> there's something hayes is from david guest . from david guest. >> really? you think so? >> really? you think so? >> yeah, i think it's come through a psychic. >> yeah, but the other thing is, i mean, i'm not going to comment on that. i'm sweating even more, but , chris, i on that. i'm sweating even more, but, chris, i think you follow jk rowling. i assume on x, the thing is, she doesn't actually just tweet about, the gender ideology and whatnot. she actually tweets what she thinks about a certain character called harry potter that , somebody harry potter that, somebody might be. >> so she should have a day off

and write some kid's story books. yeah, yeah, i guess, but also, i mean , you can't get away also, i mean, you can't get away from the fact that all of this, gender critical stuff that she's done that has driven a huge amount of traffic to x and kept people there who might not have stayed otherwise. so i have no idea why he tweeted that i it's beyond me. it's a straight well also, the blame surely goes with him that, he he he's the one who creates these algorithms. >> and that's what sends that stuff out to people, including himself. if he put, you know, he should create algorithms, that gets the kind of the more boring stuff. what i'm trying to say is i've written a lot of tweets about board games that have gone nowhere. >> so what you're basically saying is he's dementing himself on his own art by being a dementor, which was a character from one of jk's books with bad hair. >> that's exactly what i was saying . saying. >> yes. >> yes. >> okay then. thank you. so time for some ads. but coming up next on free speech nation, jerry seinfeld says political correctness is killing comedy. i'm going to ask comedy director

and producer gary sinner if he's right. see you in two.

welcome back to free speech nation. american comedian jerry seinfeld has once again expressed his belief that political correctness is stifling the creation of truly funny comedy . seinfeld, who funny comedy. seinfeld, who starred in the hugely successful eponymous sitcom for many years, says there is a shortage of funny new shows because of what he describes as pc crap and people worrying so much about offending other people. let's take a look. >> just expected there'll be some funny stuff we can watch on tv tonight. well guess what? where is it? this is the result of the extreme left and pc crap and people worrying so much about offending other people . about offending other people. when you write a script and it goes into 4 or 5 different hands, committees , groups. hands, committees, groups. here's our thought about this joke. well, that's the end of

your comedy. >> i've got to be honest, i prefer his earlier stuff. well, my first guest clearly knows a huge amount about good comedy because he cast me in one of his shows. it's the award winning director, producer and writer gary sinyor . thank you, thank gary sinyor. thank you, thank you . you. >> hello. >> hello. >> so, firstly, gary, what do you make of seinfeld's comments there? >> so, it's rubbish because it's not, the left pisanus that's destroying comedy. it's always been stupid people in positions of power who try to restrict comedy. so that happened with fawlty towers . it happened with fawlty towers. it happened with monty python, it happened at itv. it has historically happened that we've had people in charge of our comedy in britain who have not been very good at making comedy, and that's like reflected now in the mainly not very good shows that we get to see. i mean, i think

your audience is probably of a of an age where i mean, on bbc two, the most watched shows at the moment are dad's army repeats of dad's army, last of the summer wine, these things are still getting shown. and that's what the kind of thing we tried to make with hapless quick plug tried to make with hapless quick plug and, which is a kind of rising damp thing, but because it's got a jewish character in it, in the lead role, i think the people like the bbc and itv and channel 4 were all like, oh, you know, we can't have a jewish character in a sitcom. and it's like , no, the whole sitcom is like, no, the whole sitcom is about all sorts of other stuff, like going on a driving awareness course and taking it up with the guy for being an idiot because he's, you know, he knows that a bus could kill someone a lot easier than, than his car. someone a lot easier than, than his can so it's like, you know, you just it's just because the jewish character, it's taken to, it's taken, it's put down. so i don't think he's right that it's specific to now. i just think it's more exaggerated now because we've got more idiots running the system. >> so there's a few points. i want to get a slightly deeper with you on there. first of all

though, i'd like to see your impression again of them being scared. >> of who? >> of who? >> being scared of the, producers as being scared. it was. yeah, it was. >> can i do it? can i can i do it in arabic? it's not labuschagne nick gibb i do you know any arabic? do you know any arabic? >> yeah . we're gonna get. >> yeah. we're gonna get. >> yeah. we're gonna get. >> can i put this up? by the way, am i allowed to show that? >> let's get. >> let's get. >> stop. sorry just saying. it's not a big thing, but, you know, i was meant to have a silver thing, and i've got one anyway. >> okay. free the hostages. yeah, we don't talk about that kind of stuff here. no the first time. so. yeah, i just want to pull you up. but firstly, i would say is that. yes, he specifically talks about the process there and how the interference. but you could argue in terms of backing up his point there fear now, whereas before their fear was just like they just didn't know what they were doing. now it's almost like having this kind of woke agenda is what drives them and drives that fear. so their fear now is ,

that fear. so their fear now is, is given some kind of direction or aim according to this agenda. right. >> i think it's i just think it's not the case. i mean, we have to hope that if people are writing good comedy and this hapless has been released in the states and been compared to kerb and seinfeld, i'd rather it was compared to rising damp in the uk. >> but you know, well, let's let's have a quick look at the let's have a quick look at the let's have a clip, supposedly the second lead is amazing. he's brilliant. >> is he? see you there. what? you didn't see the black man in the kuna? >> because these goggles restrict my vision. >> you got racist goggles? yeah, yeah. do you have any pictures? >> i do not collect pictures of babies. boys, penises. oh, no. >> not trouser. you've got to touch us both at the same time. well, we'll see who feels it first. now hurry up, little man. >> oh, that's not funny, mate. quickly, quickly! the window for the window. >> tiny penis. i asked for a trim. he looks like a kiwi fruit. i can't shut the door. we'll try. i am trying . we'll try. i am trying. >> there we go. >> there we go. >> let's have a round of applause. there we go. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> so, i mean, i do. i take your point that it's that people are

more scared now and that we have people in control who have grown up in a sort of more liberal, progressive kind of society. but it still doesn't solve the fact that it it still doesn't solve the fact thatitis it still doesn't solve the fact that it is considered only a kind of stupidity that that stops risky, edgy, but great sitcoms from being made. which is why you still get great stand up like you get ricky gervais and people like that doing great stand up. it's in the process of making through committee that i think people lose their way. but do you think it's that? >> no, i'm just saying. do you think it's, you calling all of the people who the decision makers and television idiots that might stop your tv shows from being i don't you know what? >> i don't see any connection at all. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so you think there might be a connection? >> i don't know, it could just be. but talking about that might explain something. >> i don't know , that might >> i don't know, that might explain something. i'll tell you what. so, for example, at the moment, like in fawlty towers,

there was a, there was an episode that was cut because the character used used the, the n word. now the thing is, i wouldn't now have a conversation. i wouldn't use the n word, but i could have a conversation in comic terms about why i'm not allowed to use the n word when chris rock is allowed to use the n word. so you'd go, well, chris rock's allowed to use the n—word. so i 90, allowed to use the n—word. so i go, well, could i use the p word? and you'd go, yeah, well, hang on one second. gary could i use the y word? and then you'd 9°, use the y word? and then you'd go, no, you're not allowed to use the word yet. and then we'd go, you use the word yet. >> please don't say the n word. okay all right. >> i won't say the n word, but you know what i'm saying? it's like. it's like we. you have to. you have to laugh about anything i get. you have to laugh at the current situation. >> well, the let's say that he's right in the sense of certainly that. where are the great new comedies, the comedies that are really crossed over, obviously hapless, obviously the exception there, but what great sitcom he mentioned things like mash and, and some of the sitcoms you've talked about and fawlty towers, the office, where are these friends that i'm not saying that

nothing has funny has been made. i think derry girls was very funny. i think there's a extraordinary. anybody seen on disney very funny sitcom, but they're not crossing over in the same way now, is it? because these risks aren't being taken and let's just say forgetting the gatekeepers for a second, do you think the programme makers, the actual writers and directors are not taking those risks themselves? >> no, i think they probably are taking the risk, but they're being led in a particular direction . i mean, sorry to come direction. i mean, sorry to come back to hapless, but the thing is, we made hapless and we offered it to the bbc and it got five star reviews from the mail and the sun and the express and the times or whatever, and the bbc news site never promoted it. once okay, now we're talking about a series that was absolutely populist that you guys would love. that was compared to rising damp and the bbc news site and the itv news site and the channel four news site and the channel four news site never spoke about it. so you're also talking about a system that . is designed to

system that. is designed to promote the shows that it wants to promote. and so that's what they will do. and i'm afraid it's i'm afraid it's the same in america. so there's a whole quagmire. it's not the writers. i think the writers will write funny if you give them the opportunity. and we know that, like the stand up comedy guys will be funny. i don't think it's that there's a system now where, sadly, an appeal. it's massive. in britain, you guys are being deprived of good comedy, and that pains me and i can guarantee you, because i've spoken to this to particular people. it pains the people at the highest levels of british television. they don't know what to do about it. >> well, maybe they could be a bit braver. >> they will need to be a bit braver. >> and that's how it's going to change. what about, can you talk to us? what happened with british airways? are you able to talk about that still, yes, a few months ago now. >> yeah british airways. so british airways bought hapless and then, they rang me up on october the 11th or 12th and said that they wanted to, not show it for the time being because they didn't want to take sides in the war. and this is essentially a british comedy

with a jewish character in it that ridicules in all directions, satirises muslims, jews, christians , atheists, it jews, christians, atheists, it has a scene where josh , as you has a scene where josh, as you saw, is having his penis inspected to compare it with a non—jewish penis, to see which is more or less sensitive . is more or less sensitive. >> that's how i won the audition, by the way. >> yeah, it's just comedy. and the idea that someone would go this is jewish comedy, and it needs to not be shown out of sensitivity was ridiculous. and luckily the papers , the luckily the papers, the telegraph and the sun, i think it was, picked it up again, not bbc news again. actually, i don't think gb news anyway. but anyway. anyway, yes, actually you did, you did. you're right. but again, they refused to. they sort of refused to make a story out of it, and, so yeah. anyway, british airways relented . i british airways relented. i think the chief exec got like 500,000 emails to his personal email address from a lot of jewish people who were quite offensive. >> someone actually recently

sent me a photo. they went on houday sent me a photo. they went on holiday and they're like, this is what i'm watching or watching on british airways. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and they blame me for. >> and they blame me for. >> yeah, but i'll tell you what, i bet you they won't buy series two now do you think? >> well, you have because you've put my foot bridge. >> i've put in that bridge as well. what's left? >> i don't know, it's just it's going to be me and you every week talking here, i think, i just want to go back again. one point you're saying is about the writers room. i think the writers room. i think the writers room. i think the writers room has changed. we will talk about that and say, but the writers rooms have changed. obviously, there's a different process. you wrote the series yourself here. you wouldn't allow anybody, including me, to change a word. but, in america it's different. they have writers rooms. it's it is written somewhat by committee already. now if the if the people in those writers rooms are changing because of an agenda. and that's what i'm heanng agenda. and that's what i'm hearing from friends of mine who are now working as writers in america, is that some of them are losing jobs, that there is this idea that it's more important about showing a diverse writers room than having a funny writers room, and that

they are blaming for the decline in the standard of comedy , i in the standard of comedy, i have no answer to that. i'm sure it's i'm sure it's i'm going to say i'm sure it's true. if you hear it, it sounds true. i'm part of some very long winded , part of some very long winded, whatsapp group that's got people in it who are writers , who are in it who are writers, who are talking about being, sidelined, and i know that in britain, you have to bring in diversity to make, to get something away, but , it's got, i think, the, the light at the end of the tunnel is perhaps that there are people at very high levels who understand that there is a problem and wants to address it, and we need to instead of just slagging them off, we need to engage with those people , which engage with those people, which is personally what i'm trying to do, even if it's not about hapless. i'm trying to engage with these people and say, you need to make more british comedy so that your audience and the children of your audience get the chance to have a laugh in

this country. and that's what i think we should be doing. >> i hope so, and in the meantime, who, well, first of all, yeah, put up your free the hostages again. absolutely. with that 100. but, where can we see hapless hapless is on prime in the uk series one and two, 14 episodes, and then it's on peacock in america. if any of you live in america, which would be very odd indeed if you came here very much, gary, for coming in and, don't switch over to the watch it before this show is finished. >> right. still to come up on free speech nation, jenny watson is going to tell us about an alternative to the pride march, which is being organised for this year. but next i'm going to be rejoined by my panel to take some more questions from this wonderful studio audience. thank you very much, gary

welcome back to free speech nation. okay let's get some questions in from the audience. our first question is from

david. >> hi, there, do we really need to know les dennis's pronouns ? to know les dennis's pronouns? >> yeah. do we need to know les dennis's pronouns? it turns out that well—known showbiz figure les dennis is male , in case les dennis is male, in case anyone was still wondering . so anyone was still wondering. so here is the stunning and brave announcement was made in a casting poster for an upcoming production of shakespeare's12th production of shakespeare's 12th night, which helpfully listed the preferred pronouns for all the preferred pronouns for all the cast members no pronouns for shakespeare himself, though his gender identity remains a mystery . wow, do they think, mystery. wow, do they think, bruce, that this is going to sell more tickets? that's no idea. >> i mean, do we need to know that lies dennis is still with us would be my biggest question. >> so you think it should be alive in brackets, you know, still here, still? >> yeah. i mean, the last i heard of him, he was in coronation street. so, you know, this is all news to me. i personally, i've nothing against pronouns. i don't use them myself. i remember the first time i was asked and i said the

f and off. and, that caused quite a stir at pinewood studios . and. yeah, i just i don't get it . i'm all . and. yeah, i just i don't get it. i'm all for making people feel comfortable. all evidence to the contrary , but i'm. yeah, to the contrary, but i'm. yeah, i mean, les dennis really brush your hair. >> well, this is less about criticism of les dennis, who i'm sure will make a wonderful . sure will make a wonderful. who's he playing? he's playing. are he him ? are he him? >> he's playing. >> he's playing. >> well, not necessarily. >> well, not necessarily. >> manolo . he's playing the 11th >> manolo. he's playing the 11th night. malvolio. malvolio? yes. yeah yeah, there we go. yeah. andrew's here in spirit , don't andrew's here in spirit, don't lump me in with him, okay? >> but, i mean, what do you make of this? why is this? i mean, it's felt. it feels like. so 2022. >> it's very annoying . and i >> it's very annoying. and i feel very sorry for les dennis that he's come in at the wrong time. because if he'd done this, you know, a year ago, it would have been fine , wouldn't it? and have been fine, wouldn't it? and he's just come in as it's all crashing down and graham was right. and everyone's you know

we've had enough now and it's yeah. bad choice. >> i don't think it was his fault. i think it was just someone made that decision. yeah, exactly. >> i wonder whether he even. he probably did because they wouldn't assume, would they? that's the whole point. i suppose he knew. but it must be difficult when you're surrounded by theatrical luvvies to say no to these things. >> well, it just i just think if they wanted a bit more publicity, they should have been les dennis. she her. and that would have sold out. that would have be fantastic. right? our next question is from rob. hey, mate. hi. hello, josh, is danny danny. >> me now. correct. the straight women can identify as queer. >> wow, is danny right? yes. straight women can identify as queer singer and presenter danny minogue has launched the uk's first ever lesbian dating show, kissed i kissed a girl, which will, see ten single women. well, they're just basically going to do what lesbians do. i i've enjoyed themselves. i've seen that video anyway, but minogue is seemingly heterosexual and has been married before, but now she says he identifies as queer in a

weird way. i guess being queer, just when you want to promote a tv show is quite weird, isn't it, chris? >> well, i mean, i identify as a size six in a weird way. i mean, it's just what is it? there's never been any evidence to the contrary. i, i don't get it. i don't know why she is saying this. well, bruce, friends of mine who are homosexual, some of them think that queer is a very derogatory term. >> they grew up with that word. it's a slur. so i was surprised at the use of the word. >> by the way, i think this is all nonsense in the whole article was conflated, and it is to promote a show and of course it's going to identify as queer. have you seen her sisters? i mean, really, the writings on the wall, but no, for a lot of people, i don't have a problem with that word. i know that some people do, and that's up to the individual. so i was surprised that she used that word. >> yes, it is weird. and but it just for me, it just it winds me up as a straight person because it feels like it diminishes what it feels like it diminishes what it means to be gay. when anybody's queer or gay, then nobody's queer. it's ridiculous. >> then my thinking is being. identifying as being queer

doesn't necessarily mean that you're homosexual. >> well, it doesn't, but that's that's that's i think that's what the problem is. and you have a lot of straight people now saying they're queer to sort of somehow they want to be special, but it takes away from gay people in their language, like the rams and waitrose. yeah, exactly. well i know what basically. yeah. right. next on free speech nation, jenny watson will be here to tell us all about the alternative to the pride march she's setting up for this summer. don't go anywhere.

welcome back to free speech nation. women's rights campaigners are organising an alternative march in london this summer. but lesbians, because they feel alienated by the official pride events. the campaigners feel that recent pride celebrations have become hyper sexualised and dominated by the trans movement. the plan is for the alternative event to take place on the same day as the pride celebrations 29th of june, and could potentially start at the statue as

suffragist, suffragist leader millicent fawcett in london. jenny watson is behind these plans and she's been kind enough to join me now. good evening jenny. >> good evening. thanks for having me on the show. thank you i >> pleasure. so please tell us about this new event and why you think it's necessary, so the plan is on the. on the day of pride, we're going to do our own march. we're going to go to parliament square, meet at the suffragette statue , we're going suffragette statue, we're going to do a few laps of, parliament square . and then after the plan square. and then after the plan is to go for a picnic in the park, we want to make it a family fun day. we don't want to make it this hypersexual ized event. and, you know, i've been going to pride events since i was 18. i'm 32 now, and i've seen how it's got worse and worse and worse and women and in particular lesbians are just not comfortable with that. and so i

thought to myself, i'm not just going to steer away, i'm going to do something about this. >> fair enough. so will there be any restrictions on participation? is it just going to be for lesbians? is it going to be for lesbians? is it going to also be for supporters of lesbians, is it going to be apolitical , so basically we are apolitical, so basically we are welcoming lesbians, bisexual women in our female friends and allies , but, you know, at the allies, but, you know, at the same time, you can't stop bad actors. that's what that's going to happen if you're running a pubuc to happen if you're running a public event. it's just that's just how it goes, but like , what just how it goes, but like, what i would ask is, please leave us alone . we just want to run this alone. we just want to run this event. we're not attacking anyone. event. we're not attacking anyone . you know, it's supposed anyone. you know, it's supposed to be a family friendly day. we're going to go to the park after. it's you know, it's it. it's suitable for the whole

family. and. yeah, i really hope that i don't they don't try to take that away from us, you know, but but if they do it, all it goes to show is that we need these spaces. >> well, i was going to say. i mean, do you think that there will be the need hopefully, you know, for it to be policed because yes, there's a there's a real idea. trans activists, you know, might take this as some kind of, believe it or not, attack on them somehow that this kind of statement here. >> yeah, they will they will, but it's not an attack. it's just that we want our own event and they run our they run their own events as well. so why can't we have our own ? but it's not an we have our own? but it's not an attack in any way. we just want an event that represents us. you know, the. that's literally it, but yeah. >> we'll see. so what further needs to be done to make this into a reality? how can people help you , so because of i mean,

help you, so because of i mean, we don't know exactly what's going to happen, but i do suspect that we're going to get counter—protests. so we've had to enlist, marshals. stewards first aid, things like that, or we're printing flyers that we can distribute them to get our message out there. but, you know, we've up until now, we've footed the bill for that . but footed the bill for that. but it's going to be well, hopefully it's going to be well, hopefully it's going to be well, hopefully it's going to be a big event. it's going to be well, hopefully it's going to be a big event . so it's going to be a big event. so we have set up a gofundme page, well, well , first of all is the well, well, first of all is the most important thing is that people spread the word, right? because a lot of a lot of lesbians don't realise that there's an alternative. and i was in that position about six years ago. so i went to london pride in 2018. and i don't know

if you heard about get the alert. they kind of , hijacked alert. they kind of, hijacked the parade and they went to the front of the parade. and until that moment, i had no idea there was an alternative. i just went with the prevailing narrative and so that's our goal, is we want to get the message out far and wide so that women in our position know that there's an alternative. so that's , you alternative. so that's, you know, that's that's the biggest thing, please spread the message. but, you know , it's message. but, you know, it's we've got i mean, we've got hundreds of signups now, which just shows the real demand for it. we've got stewards on boards , but a lot of this, you know, i mean, it's costing us quite a bit of money. it is, and, you know, we're happy to we're happy to, to pay so much for it. but

it's just, it's a to, to pay so much for it. but it'sjust, it's a big to, to pay so much for it. but it's just, it's a big it's a to, to pay so much for it. but it'sjust, it's a big it's a big it's just, it's a big it's a big event. so we've decided to set up a gofundme page , so if anyone up a gofundme page, so if anyone wants to donate, it'll go towards, stewards, high vis jackets , walkie talkies, you jackets, walkie talkies, you know, it's , you know, it's the know, it's, you know, it's the end of june. so, you know, we're going to get far enough . going to get far enough. >> i'm so just very quickly, slightly related. but you wrote an article last week about the need for men's spaces very much in the news with the garrick club vote this week. do you think this is the end result of recognition that, you know, by women being different, recognition that, you know, by women being different , that men women being different, that men are also different? >> i mean, completely i mean, that's always been my stance. you know, every single cell in a human's body dictates that they are male or female. and that's my stance as well. >> so fair enough. well, look, good luck to you. maybe it'll inspire a gay men and bi men march , and maybe then also

march, and maybe then also a straight march and then also be with the palestinian march. it's going to be an interesting sunday. we'll see what happens. well, thank you very much for joining us. >> sorry. can i just say one really quick thing, so there's, gay men's alternative event taking place on the same day, and the go fund me page. so if so, if there's a surplus, then we're going to , donate that to, we're going to, donate that to, buyers , place. and that was set buyers, place. and that was set up buyers, place. and that was set ”p by buyers, place. and that was set up by jk rowling . and it's for, up by jk rowling. and it's for, victims of sexual abuse. so, yeah, if you want to donate, any surplus will be, >> well, we've got to go now. jenny, thank you so much for joining us. good luck with the event. right. there's plenty more to come on free speech nation. we'll see you then. bye >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news.

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gb news. >> there's plenty more still to come on. free speech nation, this week, we will ask the editor of spiked, tom slater , editor of spiked, tom slater, about the student protesters who needed to be provided with food and water. and myself, krista and water. and myself, krista and bruce will tackle some more

questions from our wonderful audience, but let's get a news update first from sam francis . update first from sam francis. >> good evening from the newsroom . it's just >> good evening from the newsroom . it'sjust gone >> good evening from the newsroom . it's just gone 8:00 newsroom. it's just gone 8:00 the top story tonight. rishi sunakis the top story tonight. rishi sunak is under pressure after a disappointing set of local election results. government minister mark harper, though, insists the conservatives are focusing on the priority of the british people. but opposition parties are now calling for a general election . mps on the general election. mps on the right of the conservatives are urging the prime minister, though, to be more radical, including former home secretary suella braverman. >> there's no time to change leaders so the prime minister is going to be leading us into the next general election, whether we like it or not. what he needs to do to salvage this dire situation is to accept the enormity of the problem, these terrible results and quickly and urgently change course. so to make sure that there are

meaningful tax cuts that people can feel and benefit from, put a cap on legal migration, take us out of the european convention on human rights so that we actually stop the boats and make sure that we reclaim our streets back from the extremists. >> sir keir starmer says he is determined to win the trust of voters back, who turned away from the labour party over its stance on gaza . they lost some stance on gaza. they lost some council seats to independents and to george galloway's workers party of britain. pat mcfadden is the vice chair of labour friends of israel, and he told us this morning that the party will support palestinians in government . government. >> but two things have guided our position all along . one is our position all along. one is the one that you just mentioned, which is israel's right to defend itself after the appalling attacks on october the 7th that will remain. we will stick up for that. but we also want to see a better future for the palestinian people. and if we were to be elected at the coming election, that would be a big foreign policy priority for

us. >> us. >> pat mcfadden , speaking to gb >> pat mcfadden, speaking to gb news earlier today. well, in other news, four men have been arrested after £40 million worth of cocaine was found in east yorkshire . around 500 kilos of yorkshire. around 500 kilos of the drug was discovered in the back of a van in a pub car park. officers believe the haul had been brought ashore in a boat transporting it from a larger vessel off the hull coast. senior investigators say it's a major blow to the organised crime group, which was attempting to smuggle the drugs into the uk . a ten year old girl into the uk. a ten year old girl has died in a house fire in bradford in the early hours of the morning . emergency services the morning. emergency services were called to reports of a blaze in kingsdale drive just after 1:00 this morning. a woman and three children did manage to escape the property. they have now been taken to hospital for treatment, though it's not thought to be life threatening. sadly, a fourth child was found inside the house and died at the scene. investigators are now working to establish what caused the fire in northern ireland. a

man has been left with potentially life changing injuries after police found him nailed to a fence. officers have described the attack in the residential area of bushmills as sinister and brutal. the officers that attended the incident also said that two vans had been set on fire near where the man was found. police are now appealing for anyone with information , or who may have information, or who may have dash cam footage, to urgently call 101. another small boat crossed into uk waters this morning with at least 50 people on board. it brings the total number of crossings so far this year to now more than 8500. that's 35% higher than the same penod that's 35% higher than the same period last year. ministers have blamed the increase in numbers on a surge, they say, in migrants from vietnam . southern migrants from vietnam. southern water has said that supplies are now gradually being restored to more than 32,000 properties in east sussex. homes in saint leonards on sea and in hastings

have been without water since a pipe have been without water since a pipe burst there three days ago. the damage has now been repaired, but the company says services still need to be restarted and we've heard today that actor bernard hill, who's best known for his roles in titanic and in the lord of the fings titanic and in the lord of the rings trilogies, has died today at the age of 79. it comes just hours before the release of his latest project, season two of the drama the responder, with martin freeman. well, fans of the cinema icon have been sharing tributes on social media and also honouring their favourite performances of his career . for the favourite performances of his career. for the latest favourite performances of his career . for the latest stories, career. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common shirts now, though, it's back to free speech nation. welcome back to free speech

nation. >> let's get some more questions from this lovely studio audience. our next question is from pat . from pat. >> yes. do you think that drew barrymore was disrespect to cackling kamala harris? and am i being disrespectful by referring to her cackle and am i going to be respectful by talking about you being respectful about the cattle is how dare you! >> now i know , so yes, this is >> now i know, so yes, this is drew barrymore, the actor and talk show host drew barrymore. she's been criticised this week for a cringeworthy interview where she carried out with the, vice president, kamala harris. let's take a look. >> i've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now. yeah, but in our country , we need you but in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country. yeah.i to be mamala of the country. yeah. i mean . yeah. i mean. >> oh, my god, that was disgusting . disgusting. >> pat, what do you think? i mean, that is that's cringe,

right? >> it's the way, all the mainstream media treats any democrat, no matter how poor, how no matter how poor the performance of the democrats, they are always sucked up to by they are always sucked up to by the media. that was just a particularly egregious example of that . of that. >> so i'm taking your republican, i'm to the right of the republicans. okay. >> i don't even want to think about that. right. so, krista mamala , this is this is a new mamala, this is this is a new york times columnist, he alluded that it's racist because there's this kind of it's historical blindness to the idea of mammy, which is in films and goodness, what are you what do you make of that? >> he's projecting. what he's seeing isn't he? i wasn't thinking that. and i don't think the majority of people i mean, i'm with you. it's disgusting. i want to be sick. but that's fine. it's for not me, you know? >> but america's who cares. >> but america's who cares. >> whatever. but sorry, pat. no, i don't feel like i've witnessed some racism, and i need to call it out. absolutely not. and i think the only bit of racism in

the conversation is the guy calling it out. he's projecting it. yeah >> i mean, it would be strange if that happened here. i can't imagine people calling thatcher thatcher. marla. >> no, but did anyone actually watch the whole thing? kamala comes out and says that she's a stepparent. drew's a step parent. and to kamala's children, stepchildren, she's mammola. so that's all drew has said. okay, so it has been slightly don't get me wrong, it made me want to hurl in the same way that when nicola sturgeon used to call herself chief mammy, i thought that was just bizarre. but this is what it's about. so what's to do with racism? someone's saying, oh, by the way, i'm momala to my stepchildren. well, that's your business. yeah, yeah, but also as well. what's happened to drew barrymore? it was like she was about to where herself or cry. that was sort overzealous. >> called the menopause. so. oh oh, how dare you. >> and in this heat, i know, i sympathise, but it does raise slightly wider questions. >> and that's a really good point about the mullet. like

it's a private conversation and widening that. but cresta is the idea that having female leaders that there is meant to be a different paradigm to male is there any such thing as probably. >> i mean, we love this, don't we? the feminisation of society and everyone wants all the women to be ceos and so on. and so on, which but would they be ceos or leaders in a different way, is what i'm arguing. well, i write , what i'm arguing. well, i write, i don't think individual women margaret thatcher is a good example can be unusually masculine. so not necessarily is the answer. does that make sense? i don't think all. i think the women that tend to end up in positions of leadership are probably there because they're not typically feminine. they probably have some some masculine discipline kind of traits. on average . traits. on average. >> what do you think, daniela ? >> what do you think, daniela? >> what do you think, daniela? >> oh my gosh . i've just had >> oh my gosh. i've just had five days in devon with five kids trapped in a cottage. never call me daddy, again. our next question is why can't your dad and pipe down? >> wow , i it makes me even more

sweat. >> all right, our next question is from matthew. hi. hey, mate. >> thank you so much. is the bbc woke or is mark lawrenson just a rubbish pundit? >> oh, yeah. is the bbc woke or is mark lawrenson a rubbish pundh? is mark lawrenson a rubbish pundit? former footballer mark lawrenson has hit out at the bbc, where he used to work as a pundh bbc, where he used to work as a pundit on match of the day and football focus. lawrenson worked at the bbc for 30 years after his playing career ended , but he his playing career ended, but he says he was ditched a couple of years ago because he's 65 and white and the bbc is the top of the woke league. so do you think that? do you know him? are you a fan of his at all? you fan of football? >> i am actually, yes. yeah, i can tell you, being a lifelong everton supporter, i can confirm that he is a rubbish pundit. yes this is a liverpool everton joke. >> they're very good. even i know that much . but do you, do know that much. but do you, do you think that he was fired for. because some people would say it's more ageism as opposed to wokeism? he's 65.

>> i think it's a bit of both. so when i watched the interview, he seemed very genuine in his responses and he is obviously getting on in age . and he stated getting on in age. and he stated that he was, being let go for being, i guess a white elderly male. and i think he has a point. i believe that's true. yes. yeah. >> i mean, bruce 30 years. >> i mean, bruce 30 years. >> well, they got rid of ken bruce . i know he's not bruce. i know he's not a football person, but he's another elderly white gentle lady. but but but i mean, in this case, 30 years working in media, that's a pretty good innings . yeah, exactly. you innings. yeah, exactly. you know, no one owes you anything. and if you're not under contract and you're not up to snuff, pipe down. you have to go. >> but here's the here's i guess what he's saying is that he was up to snuff. he was still delivering the goods. he was still he knowledgeable about the sport. >> if we didn't have die, then we'd know, wouldn't we? but once you get die going, nobody knows who got the job on merit and who didn't. and they'll always tell you at the company level. they'll shout about their prejudices and they'll say, we want to hire more diverse women

and blah, blah, blah. and then at the individual level, they'll tell you, oh, this person got there on merit. now both of those things can't be true at the same time. and if we didn't have di, we wouldn't be asking this question. we'd know he was just rubbish. >> should we replace on var just to find out what exactly happened because of course a narcissist is going to say they're good at the job. >> yeah, well that's true. >> yeah, well that's true. >> well it's that amused me. sorry >> i mean, look, i don't watch football. i don't know who his replacements are, but i did watch a very good podcast this week, by andrew gold, who's been on this, show called heretics , on this, show called heretics, where he interviews a new football pundit talking about exactly this. di. they really get into it. they argue it is interesting, but i guess it comes down to how do you prove whether someone is better or worse for the job. and in this case, with football, i have no idea, because , well, no, neither idea, because, well, no, neither do i. >> but the bbc have been pretty loud about this in the past, haven't they? in many organisations? well, i just said it. they very happy to tell you

that they hire this way, so it wouldn't surprise me. >> yeah. i mean he also taught as a slightly separate thing, but he talks about how woke they are. but his idea about is how frightened the bbc is and he just keeps on going about how frightened they are. do you did you get any gist of what they were frightened of? >> i think he standards it needs to stop. it's gone on too long. i don't think anyone's interested. they probably they are frightened about backlash, that they're not being diverse and their recruitment , yeah. and and their recruitment, yeah. and doctors that needs to stop . you doctors that needs to stop. you know, it does. honestly, no. >> all right then our next question then is from andy. good evening . evening. >> should our loyal friends in ireland join the rwanda migrant screening scheme? >> should ireland join the uk's rwanda migrant scheme? yes. so it would be hard to argue that the government's random, migrant scheme has been a runaway success. it's got off the runaway and ireland's prime minister simon harris, has dismissed the claims. he's been offered the chance to join it. the uk and irish governments have been at odds recently, as

ireland struggles to deal with a number of asylum seekers who arrived in recent years . yeah, arrived in recent years. yeah, krista, this is issue because 80% of, migrants into ireland are coming through the open border through northern ireland. so like we are there, france , we so like we are there, france, we are there. >> france. so should they join, well , yeah. i >> france. so should they join, well, yeah. i mean, then it. yes, i suppose they should, shouldn't they? although i'm not really. rishi seems to think that just the threat of the rwanda scheme is enough to make all these migrants run to ireland. i find that very unconvincing, because we haven't we haven't seen it happen yet . we haven't seen it happen yet. on the other hand, we have seen articles this week about migrants in the uk being beginning to be rounded up by the uk authorities, so yeah, i can't see why they wouldn't want to join it because, well, i think because it's seen as a right wing policy and it's very unpopular. >> and of course, the, the irish governments are arguably quite progressive. >> but then have they not come

to bite themselves in the bum by virtue of the fact saying that, that the uk is now unsafe because people are going to be centred around us. so that's why they're going to ireland now and they're going to ireland now and they can't hand them back here. yeah. so yeah, my point is , yeah. so yeah, my point is, where are the people on the borders. >> yeah. no no they you're absolutely right in that , they absolutely right in that, they passing legislation now to make the uk a safe place. this is how they do it. so it's like they everyone can sort of point from afar. but when the issues of migration overtake national politics, suddenly , then politics, suddenly, then everything's off the table or on the table and everybody's kind of running scared, which is. >> yeah. and i bet if you ask the average irish person, are they going to have a referendum about this? probably not, but i bet they'd be up for it. >> no, but we are. you have seen these protests in ireland again. the narrative seems to be, and i'm sure that there are, right wing influencers. i mean, far right can get involved. and this is the problem. if you leave this debate just just

untethered, it will then go in that direction. and that's why adults in the room need to have this conversation. not me though, right. our next question is from luke . is from luke. >> hi, guys, do trans women need help obtaining breastfeeding support services ? are support services? are >> yeah. do trans women need the help of breastfeeding support groups? six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for asking that biological men should be excluded. right the british wing of the la leche league , el tel, which offers league, el tel, which offers support to people finding it hard to breastfeed, have been told that it's us board of directors, that the sex service cannot be single sex and must support male lactation. now, luke , how's your lactation, luke, how's your lactation, well, last time i checked, it was pretty dry , but. well, you

was pretty dry, but. well, you never know. >> this whole studio is not helping my lactation . what do helping my lactation. what do you think about this, though? this is incredible, right? i mean, you have the basically the american board and the us and the uk board fighting each other, and then the uk board being suspended . being suspended. >> well, it's just completely ridiculous, well, the last i checked, men can't breastfeed physically and the nhs has got precious little money as it is. so we just need to stop this . so we just need to stop this. well, yeah. >> i mean, this is a private charity, and i believe those people who've been fired are actually recommend or, refer themselves to the charity commission because they are seen to be breaking the law when it comes to same sex booze , relaxation. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> not really. >> not really. >> like they take everything in. no pun. it's very well. >> also the argument the trans activists would argue that trans women can produce a milk , which women can produce a milk, which is this kind of milky substance which there's no proof as to whether actually so it's not right. it's very experimental.

if they take certain hormones, but there's no idea proof that it actually provides any nourishment to the children . nourishment to the children. >> no, i'm. yeah i'm one. we always talk to buy organic. >> you think that. yes. this is the problem here cuesta. no no ho. 110. >> no. >> but i just i just mean if you're talking about the milky substance and that because i think we've discussed this on headliners or something before, if that's all infused with kind of hormone and not chemicals. >> yeah. yeah you still get rusks. >> no, seriously, think about the babies in all of this has nothing to do with that. it's about the fact that america is behind us on on this stuff. and kemi badenoch is going to get hold of this. and they won't get away with it if they're getting away with it if they're getting away with it currently, it's not going to last long. >> yeah. i mean, this is a charity . it's a you know, it's a charity. it's a you know, it's a very good charity in that there's been proven scientific benefits for breastfeeding your children and, and a lot of women

can find it very difficult and they need that help. and we actually needed that help. and it made a big difference in terms i believe, our children's health, but also the bonding of the mother and the child. so when these organisations are kind of taken over by identity politics or whatever, they're losing focus on what they're there to do . there to do. >> yeah, absolutely. of course they are. and i imagine that trans women do have a lot of problems with breastfeeding, but i don't think this is the charity for them, no. >> fine. fair enough. get your own charity, our next question is from heather. hey, heather. >> thanks, folks, so , yeah, >> thanks, folks, so, yeah, diversity is obviously the buzzword of the moment. do we need more diversity in our train drivers ? drivers? >> yeah. do we need more diversity among train drivers? the national skills academy for rail, figures show that only 1 in 10 drivers are non—white, and they even fewer are women. the industry body says the average driver is 46 male and white, a

statistic seized on by the bbc which considers such people to be on a par with puppy torturing sadists . please sell it now. how sadists. please sell it now. how did you get here this evening, heather? by train? >> yes. funnily enough, i didn't ask if it was a diverse train driver. i just got on the train and it worked, which was great. you know, that's real. >> yeah. very rare. >> yeah. very rare. >> it worked, you know. yeah. i mean, from my point of view, diversity is we pay lip service to it. it doesn't actually mean what it means. you know, it started with good intentions as all these things do. but what happens now is that if you speak to the standard working class person means very little to them. you know? and when you look at the careers of train drivers, it's going to be white working class men, you know? and that's the reality. and we're suddenly discriminating against white middle aged working class men. >> yeah, white working class multi—millionaires. >> yeah, white working class multi—millionaires . thank you so multi—millionaires. thank you so well, krista, you read the

article that was sent out. it was interesting how it presented the information. i thought, because when it started talking about london and these areas are obviously geographically specific. now, when it came to london and the overground and the tube, actually it was two thirds of the train drivers were people of, were non—white. so it's when they try and extrapolate. yeah. to nationally a country that's mostly white. >> we've got mostly white, mostly male train drivers is the gist of it. >> and also the other thing they were saying was that it's about age. and obviously these guys, they mostly men, they have a pretty cushy job. sorry, train drivers, but you do and fair enough. you have your unions and that's that's what it works for you. but they're not going to be that necessarily eager to retire. so if they're bringing through new people, i understand the statistics for the new people coming through much more closely matches the wider demographics of the country. >> so which is what you'd expect

. yeah. so i dare i say it, this is a non—story for me, mr schaffer's always with us, yeah, i don't really understand what their point is. why are they banging the drum about this ? banging the drum about this? >> i guess because every industry now, bruce is expected to have an exact representation according to the country. >> well, i think over and above that, and i'm all for diversity. just recruit more train drivers because we were on the platform on saturday. how many? odd. there's no one there. there's no catering. there's no this. so as opposed to focusing on representation, i don't know if i'm wrong in saying that. why not just get people, whoever they are, to do the job so the trains actually run? that's what i'm saying. it was very rare you got on a train that run. so well done. you. yeah. >> congratulations. right. next on free speech nation, tom slater from spiked will be here to discuss those fearless radical revolutionary student protesters who also need to be provided with free hot food and water. see you shortly.

koci selamaj . hey. welcome back koci selamaj. hey. welcome back to free speech nation, a big talking point at the moment is the wave of pro—palestine protests, which have been taking place on university campuses in the uk and the us, where they have often led to violent clashes with the authorities. several commentators have doubted the sincerity of the protesters , myself included, and protesters, myself included, and were given fuel for their argument. this week when one of the brave radicals at new york's columbia university seemed most concerned about the lack of access to free food and drink, let's have a look. >> yes, it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation columbia feels it has to its students, do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill even if they disagree with you? if the answer is no, then you should allow basic. i mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an ivy league campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for, like, could people please have a glass of water? >> no, you can't. water? >> no, you can't . to discuss >> no, you can't. to discuss this, i'm joined by tom slater,

the editor of spiked. right. all right. >> hello . >> hello. >> hello. >> good evening tom. now, what is the story behind these protests and the demand for the free food and water? >> yes. and this was is actually about a day before that these particular set of protests got broken up. but this was the occupation at hamilton hall at columbia university in new york city. and the context for this is that they had just broken into the building, smashed windows, barricaded the doors . windows, barricaded the doors. this has gone beyond being a peaceful protest, full on kind of civil disobedience, but a few days in, they suddenly decided that actually they weren't getting access to the prepaid meal plans which existed on campus. they're also upset about the supply of water. so this hilarious impromptu press conference takes place with one johanna king. slutsky is her name. if this story couldn't get any more ridiculous, but i think it does speak because i'm sure we'll get into to the sort of layer of babyish upper middle class entitlement which seems to run through these protests as much as anything else. >> yeah, i think i saw a clip just now from someone was trying

to hold a, a man hostage. one of the workers of the university was holding, but being held hostage by some multi—billionaires son, and it just shows the cosplay here that's going on. and when you and the other some of my favourite clips online at the moment are those clips are where going up to the protesters and saying what are you protesting? and they don't seem to know. no, absolutely . absolutely. >> it seems like this has been obviously there's going to be some people there who are really committed to this particular cause.i committed to this particular cause. i think in a lot of cases, they're posing as humanitarians when really there's a lot of pro—hamas sentiment, a lot of anti—semitism and all sorts. but there's also a tremendous, like, conformism, to all of this, this is just become, as i say, on the internet, the current thing amongst a lot of university students. that's not to dismiss the worst extremities of this and to make excuses for it. i think there's been an alarmingly high tolerance for extreme opinions, for outright expressions of anti—semitism, and also a lot of tolerance for things that clearly go beyond freedom of speech into harassing jewish students on campus and smashing things up. but i think

it's a reminder that these protests have been presented as almost like these kids are the successors to the 60s radicals or something like that. there's a complete universe of difference between them, not least because of the fact that their cause is so unjust. i think it's ridiculous to compare them to a kind of previous generation, but also because of the fact that when people used to rebel on university campuses, they would expect a response. they would expect that if you're breaking the rules, that comes with certain consequences. these kids, because they've been indulged for so long, kind of assumed that they can smash windows and be provided with with refreshments effectively while doing so. so that's a very big difference, i think. >> i mean, maybe in that way these protests actually serve a function to kind of a course correction to that generation to go. there are consequences to your actions. >> well, well, potentially , but >> well, well, potentially, but it doesn't seem like it's really breaking through. there's been this very bad faith discussion that's taken place, which is to say, oh, this is a free speech issue. where are all the free speech warriors? and i found that whole element to this discussion really ridiculous. first of all, because particularly in america, and i

know we at spikes have done it where there have been instances where there have been instances where peaceful protests, no matter how disgusting i find them, have been broken up, targeted. we saw that in texas recently. we've seen that other university campuses just for the content of what they're saying. we've come out and condemned that. the thing is that free speech doesn't give you the right to commit violence. it doesn't give you the right to occupy buildings. and if you are to engage in civil disobedience, you should experience, you should expect some sort of consequence, but it's just been striking how people who a month ago would have been trying to get a professor fired for using the wrong pronouns are now free speech warriors in the extreme. so i think, again, it's the hypocrisy upon hypocrisy. well, this is it. >> it's the hypocrisy of that. and then, of course, the hypocrisy of these kind of, you know, micro—aggressions that they would have instantly attacked, but then they're willing to shout for, you know , willing to shout for, you know, genocide of jews and israel and from the river to sea, intifada and try and pretend that these aren't codes for violence towards jews , and that also, towards jews, and that also, obviously, i find disturbing the one thing that also that you comment on is just it for me, it bnngs comment on is just it for me, it brings to mind these kind of,

those clips of, in china in the sort of cultural chinese cultural revolution. i mean, the way they act together, there is a sort of fascism and a blindness to their actions and the conformity, i guess , is what the conformity, i guess, is what i'm saying. and it's amazing to see that take over in the west in a very privileged way. and maybe the most privileged of people, and it's a kind of hysteria as well. and also the other dimension to it, which is so dispiriting, as you've rightly pointed to, is the outright expressions of anti—semitism that we've seen. this is something that gets excuses are made for it . people excuses are made for it. people say it's just a couple of bad actors, but just at columbia, just at university , jewish just at university, jewish students have been had go back to poland, shouted at them . to poland, shouted at them. there's been people chanting things like, october the 7th is about to be every day for you guys. get ready for it. there was an arab—israeli gentleman who was due to speak at the university, who punched in the face by people who were putting up the kind of hamas triangle symbol as they did so. and meanwhile, you've got a lot of other students who are just turning a blind eye to this, a

lot of academics who are supporting the protesters and turning a blind eye to this. and that's another big difference between, say, what happened in the 60s, like those occupations and protests were in opposition to racism. these are protests that are luxuriating in racism, tolerating racism. so i think giving them that mantle of they are just the logical consequence of years of progressive protest. i think , just gives them far too i think, just gives them far too much credit. definitely. >> yeah. and seeing the people like i was reading today, bette midler coming out in support of them and again, making this comparison with somehow it's like the 60s and somehow this is a free speech issue and not it's somewhat indicative of the world that we live in now. people not actually looking any deeper at this stuff, just taking the very face value of it. oh, look, it's young people. they're protesting. so this is exactly what it was in the 60s. yeah. and it isn't. no. >> it'sjust and it isn't. no. >> it's just vibes. they're working off the back of. they're just they see a bunch of students who are, you know, dressed like radical young people. they're engaged in radical protest and therefore they think, oh, they must be on they think, oh, they must be on the right side of history. they are quite clearly not. and i think it's something that really

needs to be confronted. just because young people rebel against something doesn't mean they're right. i mean, you can reach for the 60s example was one that, in the popular imagination is thought of generally as a positive thing. but there are plenty of examples you know, the in china, the red guards and so on. the, there's other examples across europe we could point to in the middle of the 20th century. >> exactly. the students, young people, strangely don't always know best. absolutely. >> and that's something that we've forgotten, though, in the west, isn't it? we have this idea that kind of blessed are the children. they will show us the children. they will show us the way. not always the case. certainly when you're talking about elite upper middle class kids who seem to have been indoctrinated into some of the most reactionary ideologies of our time at universities. >> yeah. and also a lot of these universities, the protests actually is not just these kids. there's a lot of people, bad faith actors coming in bored of that, who don't belong to university. and i've seen some of those incredible clips i've seen are, them attacking actual students, jewish students, but also just students. these people aren't students. and they're blocking them from getting to their classes. there was incredible clip of an african—american man and his niece trying to walk through, and he had a free palestinet

and he had a free palestine t shirt on, but because he wasn't with them in the media sense, they're like literally blocking these kind of, as he calls them, sort of white cosplay . yeah, sort of white cosplay. yeah, actors. and it was just and he was there as a student and they weren't . and it was, it was weren't. and it was, it was unbelievable thing to see. and the violence now, what are the steps though that people can take? because you say the thing in texas where you saw actually peaceful protests being broken up, but how do you think this is going to end? is it going to escalate? is it going to drag on for months, or are they just going to go home because term's over? >> well, it seems to be playing out very different and very different university campuses. some of them have taken a kind of overly draconian response. i think it would have been better if it never came to the point of universities having to call in police anyway. they should have been able to deal with this internally. i think a big part of the problem is that a lot of these campaigners, whether it's on this cause or others, have been indulged for so long, they were they were kind of expected that they could this could carry on indefinitely, there are some

places which managed to end it with negotiation, but i think the fundamental here is the fact that, of course, students have free speech rights that american state universities they have, those are actually legally protected at many other private they are anyway. but at the same time, that has certain limits. and i think that's something which these students don't seem to understand. the thing about civil disobedience is you are saying that i'm so passionate about this cause that i'm willing to risk expulsion, arrest, etc. you do it anyway because you believe it so much and on the flip side, i think when people look at these protests, they shouldn't just think, oh, they're young people doing civil disobedience. therefore it must be good. you could quite easily be doing civil disobedience for most horrendous cause imaginable. and that's what we've seen. so i guess my hope is that these things can be resolved without that kind of heavy handedness. i don't think it had to play out like that. but there is a certain point where if you're stopping other students from going about their lives, if you're hurling constant racist invective and harassment at particular populations on campus, no university would be expected to put up with that indefinitely. >> yeah, and shame on goldsmiths university. but that is a separate time that we will get into. tom, thank you so much for

joining us today. next on free speech nation. new book trans mania has caused a sensation in france , with the deputy mayor of france, with the deputy mayor of paris saying adverts for it should be taken down. one of the authors, dora mutua, will join us to discuss all this and how to pronounce her name. see you

r , and, welcome back to free speech nation. france is abuzz at the moment following the publication of a new book about gender ideology called trans mania. the book looks at the implications of transgender ideology in contemporary society and has to led its authors receiving similar treatment to that given to jk rowling in the uk. there have even been calls for the deputy mayor of paris for the adverts for the book to be removed from the streets. the bookis removed from the streets. the book is by dora muto and margaret stern, and dora has been kind enough to join us now. hello. so hello , where is france

hello. so hello, where is france overall in relation to the overall in relation to the overall way of the acceptance of fight back against georgia gender ideology. >> france is very late on this. it's not like in the uk or in the us , we're very late on this the us, we're very late on this because most people don't speak english, so they don't know about the crash review. they don't know about tavistock. so they're still in this idea that we should actually give puberty blockers to children. and people don't have a really critical mindset, against transgender ideology. so we're really late. but the book trans mania is actually putting things in front of people. and also there is a law by le republicain which is right wing against, children transitioning. so it's actually moving and it's going to be reviewed by the senate in the end of may, essentially , because end of may, essentially, because in the uk certainly trans

activists present any fight back against the ideology as right wing. >> although of course, in the uk actually started from left wing and mostly left wing lesbians. is, is it? but is the fight back in france and from the right wing? and is that how they're criticised ? criticised? >> yeah, exactly. when you when your gender critical, people say that you're from the right wing, this is what's happening to me. i come from the left. i'm a feminist from the left. but actually, no media on the left would let me speak. no. publisher on the left would pubush publisher on the left would publish my book. so i had to find people on the right who were willing to publish it and would let me talk, on tv shows or in the media. so, yeah, that's exactly the same problem. but the difference is that we don't have all the feminists from the left were speaking out, not like in the uk with julie bindel , with catelyn stark, with bindel, with catelyn stark, with jk rowling , in, in france, they,

jk rowling, in, in france, they, they stay silent. >> yeah. so what has been the reaction then to your book? so you're in a way your book has been that opening salvo in the fight back, right? >> yes , exactly. so the >> yes, exactly. so the reactions are really good on the right wing, really bad on on the rest of the spectrum , so, the rest of the spectrum, so, the book has been the advertisement for the book have been taking have , been, yeah, taking. have, been, yeah, taking. i don't know how to say in english, yeah. it's been removed from the street of paris, and, also it's super, super hard to find the book , except on amazon find the book, except on amazon or online, most places won't sell it. and they're hiding it. they're hiding it behind other books. they're hiding it behind other books . so, people really have to books. so, people really have to want to find it, but it's first on amazon and, on most, sellers online. >> well, that was exactly the same problem here with kathleen

stock's book and various others. you had to go in and then, very reluctantly, someone with purple hair would lead you to the back into some storeroom and glare at you like you were this evil person for daring to buy the book, do you think the book will be translated into english? do you think that there are less lessons or things about the book that unique specifically to france? >> yeah, some parts of the book are related specifically to france , because in france, it's france, because in france, it's free to do a full transition. it's taken we have a french nhs, we will take it fully in charge. so it means that it's french tax payers who are actually paying for transitioning. and french people didn't know that . and people didn't know that. and it's really expensive for a man becoming a woman is going to be around ,100,000, so french people are really shocked by the idea that it's actually their tax. were financing this

ideology, so because in the uk , ideology, so because in the uk, the institutions seem to be still this ideology is still somewhat embedded, which is incredible. even after the cash support and various, legal wins. but the fight back, definitely. it definitely feels like more of the general public are aware. and now politicians are stepping up their game because they want votes. is there anything like that with macron in france? >> no, not yet , i would say yes. >> no, not yet, i would say yes. some parts of the right wing are starting to catch up and starting to catch up and starting to catch up and starting to talk about it, but i would say most of the centre and the left are actually, on totally on the other side saying that like there is no feminism without trans women and that, it's, it's a crime to not give , it's, it's a crime to not give, puberty blockers to children. so for now , i would say that we're for now, i would say that we're going in the wrong direction in france , and i think we're going france, and i think we're going to do exactly, exactly the same mistake , and that it will

mistake, and that it will probably only change when some children were going to grow up or going to attack and do lawsuits. i think they're probably not going to wake up before, unfortunately. it's shame. >> yeah, because here we had chiara bell suing the nhs, and i think that exactly woke up a lot of people. but it's a shame, of course, that children's lives have to be ruined to get to that point and even your life. i believe you've been subject to death threats and marches yesterday. i saw on your twitter. >> yeah, yesterday, hundreds people called for my murder, asking to put me in the rhine river at the bottom of the rhine river. so. yeah. and tomorrow we're doing , like, a conference we're doing, like, a conference in a big french university , and in a big french university, and ihave in a big french university, and i have to have the police with me because it's getting really dangerous. >> well, all i can say is, i remember a few years ago what it was like in this country. the abuse, the death threats, rape threats that women got in your position. and because they suck at it, they created change. and

i believe you will too. so good luck. thank you very much for joining. thank you so much. >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> next on free speech nation green party councillors are very different these days. and jemmy carr causes a stir on itv. it's almost time for social sensations.

okay. it's time for social sensations. the part of the show where we look at what has been going viral this week on social media. first up, the green party enjoyed a good week. and the local elections. and their candidates these days don't seem to be the harmless, ineffectual salad munchers that we've grown to know and love. i mean, hello , to know and love. i mean, hello, hello . hello. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> oh, dear. well, that was a vote that i threw away there. cressida are. >> i mean , what what can you say

>> i mean, what what can you say that nick dixon hasn't already said on twitter, it's, nothing to do with the green issues, is it that statement? >> well, i mean, if hamas starts using biofuel in their rockets, that might help the environment. >> yeah. yeah, that that level of, of firework use isn't usually approved of by green people, is it? i mean, this is i mean, bruce, this is, i don't feel like he's that focused on the sort of, you know , recycling. >> well, no, not at all, because he's wearing a leather jacket, he's wearing a leatherjacket, and that really is very dangerous for the environment. >> yeah. true enough. next up, comedian jemmy carr was criticised for being rude and arrogant towards chef clodagh mckenna this week on, this morning. let's have a look . morning. let's have a look. >> so you grab your carcase and you p0p >> so you grab your carcase and you pop it into a big saucepan, then you've got a bin, some pop it in the bin and then you put in some vegetables like carrots,

scallions, celery, the chicken's done. now this on its own is so healing. and lovely and so good. >> wait till she finds out about stock cubes. but she's going to feel a fool . feel a fool. >> bruce, this is incredible. they hired a comedian and he was funny. >> he was. he okay? >> he was. he okay? >> i like how she sometimes swears on the show. it's funny . swears on the show. it's funny. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> not swears. it's really funny. do you think he was stressing her at all? >> he was just doing his job, surely. >> i think she's a woman that can take care of herself. i'm not necessarily sure. she was soben >> and i think. >> and i think. >> leave it. it's all good. >> leave it. it's all good. >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> do you think? well, i've got a very controversial opinion. oh, hello. somebody in london? i'm not a foodie and i don't care. and i think it's high time somebody ridiculed the cult of cooking because it's not. i just it doesn't appeal to me. no. >> fair enough. but watching that clip do you think he deserves. >> let's all just stop. let's start . start. >> i won't with krista. and she just eats at mcdonald's every day, but no, seriously, do you think he deserves any criticism

at all? do you think this is ridiculous? >> i mean, what did you think he was going to do? you've hired him to do that, and now he's done it. him to do that, and now he's doneit.be him to do that, and now he's done it. be happy. >> a ridiculous right now is the part of the show we're going to talk you through your unfiltered dilemmas. our first dilemma is from ben on merit is my son went for his first proper party the other night and wanting to be a hipster dad, i sent him on his way with two cans of lager and a pina colada . to my horror, he pina colada. to my horror, he came back from the bash and instead of passing out in a drunken stupor, went straight to the weights room. what have i done wrong, bruce? what has he done wrong, bruce? what has he done wrong, bruce? what has he done wrong ? done wrong? >> well, first of all, they have a weights room so high middle class are they? how is life in hampstead? these days? i'm a pina colada and lager. >> scumb for the ladies, for the ladies, for the ladies. >> i'm a lady and i would turn that down. >> what do you think, krista? i mean, this is good. maybe he wanted to work it off. you know, beeris wanted to work it off. you know, beer is very fattening. >> have i misunderstood? i think the dad wanted him to go off

into the night and find far more pina coladas and come back and be sick and act like a young kid. >> no, i think he wanted him to use his pina colada. >> well, they're not doing that these days, josh. >> they're all very. >> they're all very. >> they're all living like we're dying out as a species. it's the death of love. there's no tea anywhere. >> it can't be found. >> it can't be found. >> so any advice for the dad, then? give him heroin. oh fair enough. my second dilemma is from harry. i really want to go to my school reunion, but i'm worried my former best mate has not forgiven me for getting off his girlfriend behind his back, which sadly ended our friendship. do you reckon he will let bygones be bygones? what? >> is his friend still alive ? >> is his friend still alive? >> is his friend still alive? >> is his friend still alive? >> i don't know, seriously. >> i don't know, seriously. >> there's. there seems so many things that were not told about. so, you know, if the guy's died. >> so basically just hope. he's hope he's dead and that'll would you would you forgive anyone for snogging your some guy, your ex ? snogging your some guy, your ex? >> well, there's no time scales in this, is there ? so we don't in this, is there? so we don't know whether this happened last week or last decade or even further. >> it's a school reunion. i think that it has to be a

certain amount of time that passes between the two. do it, try it, and email us and tell us what happened. our final dilemma this week is from carly. an old friend is having a get together next weekend, and i can't stand her mates and need to get out of it. please can you and the panel come up with a nice and credible but vague excuse? what are all these people who've got these social events here? invite me to some of them giving it to you. it's very quick. excuse here. >> i'm not coming. okay. not interested. >> that's it. all right. what about. i'm. you know, what would you say? >> tell them you're a tv producer. you don't have nights off, and you can't make it. >> okay? someone is very pretty, stone. >> and you hate pina coladas. >> and you hate pina coladas. >> okay, well, i might tell her that i'm in watching free speech nation, and it's the best show on tv. and i have to stay in even when andrew isn't presenting. we'll see. or i'm washing my hair. it could be one or the other. well, anyway, good luck for that. well, thank you so much to our audience for joining us this evening. and sweating through the next the last two hours, thank you at home for joining last two hours, thank you at home forjoining us last two hours, thank you at home for joining us for free speech nation. this is the week where the tories were humbled at

the local elections. french writers were threatened with death for saying that being a woman is a biological reality. and we finally found out that les dennis, has pronounced thank you very much to my panel, krista wetton and bruce devlin and all of my brilliant guests this evening. and if you want to join us live in the studio and be part of this wonderful audience when we fix the air conditioning, please go to pwc or audiences .com. stay tuned for the brilliant mark dolan tonight. that's next. and don't forget headliners every night at 11 pm, the late night pay per view show where comedians talk you through the next day's news stories. thank you for watching free speech nation. good night. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. it's going to be staying rather

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gb news. >> good evening. you're watching and listening to gb news. i'm sam francis. a look at the headunes sam francis. a look at the headlines at 11:00. the liberal democrats claim that rishi sunak is living on cloud cuckoo land. after a disappointing set of local election results for the conservatives this week. the biggest upset saw labour's richard parker win in the west

midlands, defeating andy street by just 1500 votes. the conservatives also lost all mayoral elections except one. ben houchen remains in his post in teesside, but labour's national campaign coordinator , national campaign coordinator, pat mcfadden, says his party shouldn't be too complacent . shouldn't be too complacent. >> but two things have guided our position all along. one is the one that you just mentioned, which is israel's right to defend itself after the appalling attacks on october the 7th. that will remain. we will stick up for that. but we also want to see a better future for the palestinian people. and if we were to be elected at the coming election, that would be a big foreign policy priority for us. >> us. >> we've heard tonight that veteran party activist graham mccormick has pulled out of the race to become leader of the snp and scotland's next first minister. it leaves just john swinney as the official candidate to succeed humza yousaf, after the former leader announced he's stepping down. mr mccormick says that he'll be

backing mr swinney's nomination for the role instead, after the pair had, he said, a fruitful conversation . a candlelit vigil conversation. a candlelit vigil has been held for a teenager who was stabbed in north—east london earlier this week. 14 year old daniel anjorin was attacked on his way to school by a man with a sword for other people were also injured in the attack. four men have been arrested . believe men have been arrested. believe this is a different story. men have been arrested. believe this is a different story . we'll this is a different story. we'll move on. four men have been arrested after £40 million worth of cocaine was found in east yorkshire. around 500 kilos of the drug were discovered in the back of a van in a pub car park. officers believe the haul had been brought ashore in a boat, transporting it from a larger vessel off the coast of hull . vessel off the coast of hull. senior investigators say that it's a major blow to the organised crime group attempting to smuggle it into the uk . a to smuggle it into the uk. a manhunt is ongoing tonight for a prisoner who's escaped from jail in suffolk. ricky wall was reported missing in woodbridge

on saturday morning when he