that an request has revealed that an astonishing 21,107 asylum seekers have simply vanished into thin air in the past five years. most of them have absolutely no right to be in britain. yet experts fear the true figure could even be much, much higher. how on earth did this disaster happened next to rishi sunak has said the economy has finally turned a corner. the labour well, they're having none of it. shadow chancellor rachel reeves has said the tories are gaslighting us all. we'll hear from her and i'll find out exactly what gaslighting means . exactly what gaslighting means. next up, former irish premier bertie ahern has claimed a unhed bertie ahern has claimed a united ireland is now the most desirable outcome, but with a shock poll yesterday showing 50% of islanders want stricter border controls with northern ireland due to spiralling immigration. is he backing the wrong horse and the british armed forces community is hacked off after the chinese were

accused of hacking personal details of 270,000 personnel, reservists and veterans. shortly we'll cross the defence secretary , grant shapps, who secretary, grant shapps, who used to give a full statement in the house of commons. and that's all coming up between now and 6:00. welcome to the show and always delight to have your company . later in the show i'll company. later in the show i'll be asking this question. politicians, counsellors crying allah akbar. others kicked out of their parties for anti—semitism. sexthe honey traps, lobbying scandals, british politics to me seems to be absolutely in the gutter . is be absolutely in the gutter. is it time for an independent political ombudsman to kick all of these into shape and kick the bad apples into touch? let me know. do you think they mark their own homework too often? how on earth can these counsellors who seem more obsessed with gaza than britain,

be allowed to carry on? they seem to get away with all sorts of stuff. let me know your thoughts. i want to hear your views. is it time to clean up british politics? get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay and get them piled in. i'll read out some of the best before the end of the show, but before we kick off, it's show, but before we kick off, wsfime show, but before we kick off, it's time for your news headunes it's time for your news headlines and it's sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 3:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the wenzler in the gb newsroom. the shadow chancellor says britain's economy is in a worse state than many people think. in a speech in london earlier, rachel reeves said the conservative government isn't being honest with voters. >> the conservatives are gaslighting the british public. they say we've turned a corner and they ask people to stick with the conservative party but it is those very conservatives who are set to leave the average

household £870 worse off through stealth taxes and increases in council tax . the prime minister council tax. the prime minister claims that he is delivering for the country , but the british the country, but the british people did not order what this prime minister is delivering . prime minister is delivering. >> downing street has declined to blame a specific state or actor for a cyber attack on the ministry of defence . that's ministry of defence. that's despite earlier reports suggesting china was the prime suspect. it's after a massive hacking attack compromised bank details and some addresses of serving defence personnel and veterans. prime minister rishi sunak says swift action has been taken. >> there are indications that a malign actor has compromised the armed forces payment network, but i do want to reassure people that ministry of defence has already taken action and removing the network offline, taking it offline and making sure that people affected are supported in the right way. now there's a limit to what i can

say about this now, but the defence secretary will be making a full statement to parliament later today. >> in royal news, it's been confirmed that prince harry will not meet the king while he's in the uk this week. harry landed in london this morning ahead of an event marking ten years since the invictus games launched. however, a spokesperson for the duke of sussex told gb news it's unfortunately not possible due to his majesty's fall programme, adding that the prince is understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him soon. the number of police officers in scotland is at its lowest level in more than 15 years. almost 260 officers have left the force in the last year . left the force in the last year. the scottish police federation warns that a further fall in numbers could see an increase in organised crime. it comes amid concerns over the practicalities of police investigating incidents reported under scotland's new hate crime laws . scotland's new hate crime laws. in other news, police have issued more than 2000 banning orders for england fans ahead of

the euros in germany. authorities believe more than 300,000 england supporters could travel to germany . fans who are travel to germany. fans who are banned will have to surrender their passports from june until their passports from june until the end of the tournament in mid—july. it comes against a backdrop of increasing football related disorder in england and wales, with arrests at a nine year high. house prices have largely plateaued for the first part of the year. that's according to a new report from halifax. the price of an average british home rose by 0.1% in april after falling by 0.9% in march, the lender says. the data reflects a housing market finding its feet in an era of higher interest rates . now, higher interest rates. now, children in scotland who question their gender are being referred to identity clinics because doctors are fearful of what's being described as a toxic debate. doctor hilary cass was speaking at the scottish parliament's health committee this morning after her study into gender services in england .

into gender services in england. she said there was fearfulness among doctors who don't know how to treat the gender issues that some children are facing . doctor some children are facing. doctor cass told the committee that the toxic nature of the gender debate means medical professionals are afraid of doing or saying the wrong thing, leaving many young people with inadequate care. in other news, israeli officials will travel to cairo soon to consider whether the hamas terror group can be persuaded to shift on its latest ceasefire offer. it's after benjamin netanyahu said the terms of the latest offer were far from meeting israel's core demands. the talks are reported to have stumbled over hamas's refusal to free more hostages without a promise of a permanent end to the conflict . a end to the conflict. a spokesperson for the us state department insists the deal is still absolutely achievable . still absolutely achievable. ukraine's security services says it's caught russian agents within the state guard service who were plotting the assassination of president zelenskyy. ukraine says russia's fsb had planned to eliminate the

president of ukraine and other top military and political leaders as it comes. on the day the russian president was inaugurated for a fifth term following elections widely seen as illegitimate . and for the as illegitimate. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . martin. to. martin. >> thank you. sophia now starts with the latest on the migrant crisis. and it's very much a case of good news. bad news for prime minister rishi sunak. in a moment , i'll prime minister rishi sunak. in a moment, i'll tell you what the prime minister's pledge to stop the boats did sort of come true over the weekend. but first, it's emerged that more than 21,000 asylum seekers have simply gone missing in britain in the last five years. home office officials have been unable to locate at least 21,107

foreign nationals who claimed to be refugees. and even more worrying, the true figure could be much, much higher as the information only covers the five years up to last september. well, to discuss this latest scandal, i'm joined by the immigration lawyer and great friend of the show, hardeep singh . bango. welcome to the singh. bango. welcome to the show hajib. always an absolute pleasure to. okay, so if we adjust these figures because they're eight months out of date, say let's add another 15,000. the true figure could be 36,000 people. these have no right to be here. they're asylum seekers. claims are mostly knocked back or withdrawn. how can 36,000 people simply vanish ? can 36,000 people simply vanish? >> well, they're supposed to sign on, the home office are supposed to ask them to sign it. and reporting centres, they simply don't go to sign, they don't have insurance numbers. national insurance numbers. they can't be traced through that. and, you know , they don't have and, you know, they don't have bank accounts, so they can't be

traced through that. they pretty much live in a black economy, earning wages , cash in hand. and earning wages, cash in hand. and it's hard to trace people like that. the home office's job is to keep an eye on these people. obviously it doesn't do that, but let's just put asylum seekers to aside for one minute, just people who overstay generally because we don't have any exit controls. martin. we don't know how many people actually go back. we know how many come in because we hear that every week. but we don't know whether they go back or not. other countries, when you leave their country , they have leave their country, they have immigration at their desk and they ask you how you've been, right? where's your next destination? they stamp you out. anybody who's been to an airport in the uk leaving the uk will know that there's no immigration there. there's no immigration to ask you where you're going, how you've been staying, where you're, you know , where have you you're, you know, where have you been staying, how was your stay and whether you've adhered to your visa conditions or not? we simply don't know. we can't even count the people who are going out. therefore, we do lose

people who just assimilate into the system. there's an estimated 700,000 people living just in the black market, in the black, sort of, underground without visas and are just living day to day, cash in hand in their communities. and that is quite a worrying figure for the home office. the fact that there are people here and they don't know who they are or how many there are, yeah, it also makes a complete mockery of our ability to even pretend we can control who is in the country. >> we have no idea who these people are. they could be anybody. they could have thrown their identities into the channel. we hear that so often as well. you know , we spoke as well. you know, we spoke about it many times on the show. they could be anybody . they they could be anybody. they could be anywhere. this is an absolute outrage. what needs to be done to try and locate them, hodge up and give them their just jus and get them out of the country. >> well , there's not much we can >> well, there's not much we can do to try and locate them. we can just, the main thing is they're probably working somewhere. so more raids on british businesses, unfortunately, going to areas

and asking people for ids. however, that's not going to go down well either, essentially people, these people are working somewhere, and the only way they're going to be exposed is , they're going to be exposed is, through raids on businesses or working places . and if we'd had working places. and if we'd had a processing centre in france and people had applied before coming over, we would know these people. we would have already have their dna on profile . we'd have their dna on profile. we'd know where they are, who they are, where they'd come from. however that was, declined by priti patel at the time and still being declined now. therefore, we have got people on these shores and we don't know who they are and how to get them. we probably need more removal . teams probably need removal. teams probably need more enforcement teams, more investment in our home office. a lot of people do actually report immigrants to immigration and a lot of those reports aren't acted on. they aren't acted upon. anybody who's made a report to immigration will probably tell you that they haven't even bothered to get a reply from immigration, aren't even told. right? okay. well act on this, information. so therefore it's going to be hard

in the circumstances for these people to be found . and the people to be found. and the government really have got a mess which they themselves created on their hands. >> roger, you mentioned something very, very interesting there. and that is dna records, dna profiling. they're actually toying with that idea at the moment in austria, because they have an unprecedented , massive have an unprecedented, massive wave of immigration into their country , people claiming to be country, people claiming to be family members who oftentimes aren't . do you think that's aren't. do you think that's something that we maybe could entertain the notion of doing in the united kingdom, a dna database of everybody coming here to allow us to track them all? would that be pushed back against by human rights lawyers who might say it's intrusive and against their human rights? >> yeah, a lot of people will push back against it. even id cards have been pushed back against. however, it might solve the problem of finding people. so it's all down to what the country's requirements are. at the end of the day, in order to secure their borders. has this

government got the will to do what it say it will. so far we've seen it doesn't . it says a we've seen it doesn't. it says a lot of things and does hardly anything . it says we're going to anything. it says we're going to bnng anything. it says we're going to bring the numbers down. and what do they do? they go. they go up. over the years it says we're going to introduce schemes to deter people. what does it do? it doesn't act as a deterrent at all. the weather's more of a deterrent than these government schemes themselves. so this government really has to get a grip on it. and it doesn't matter who we've had as ministers, we've had more ministers, we've had more ministers than we've probably had presenters on tv. so there you go, martin. these ministers, they say one thing and they just do the other thing, and all they can do is criticise. but no one can do is criticise. but no one can bring up a solution. and when a solution is presented then it's just not viable. they haven't got the infrastructure to carry it out. >> yeah. you know they should get more people like you involved. harjeet singh bhangal superb start to the show. i think the dna database mate, thatis think the dna database mate, that is a fascinating idea . that is a fascinating idea. yeah. let's nudge this conversation on because, as promised, to some good news at last for the government as they try to stop those boats. because

almost 1000 people were allegedly prevented from crossing the channel last week. and while 54 migrants came across on sunday, 218 people were stopped from leaving france or they were returned to that country. well, i'm joined now by kevin saunders, of course, is the former chief immigration officer for the uk border force at calais. kev always a pleasure to have you on the show. hope you're keeping well. this is a rare piece of good news here, kevin. this is a freedom of information request. the home office put this data out as an exclusive today in the sun for the first time, the home office have released prevention's data as well as arrivals data. tell us about that , kev. us about that, kev. >> well, yes, certainly it's it is good news. >> and i've been very critical of the french as you know, but i think we ought to give them a gold star because they have done exceedingly well over the last few weeks in stopping the boats leaving france. >> so well done .

>> so well done. >> so well done. >> let's have more of it. >> yeah. and the data is, is got to say, is pretty impressive. and again , i join you on that. and again, i join you on that. kevin, we are often very critical of the french police here. but the home office, as i said for the first time, have released this data. this is the prevention's data. so there were 700, 711 arrivals last week on wednesday, the highest. so far in 2024. but they also claim to have stopped 977 people leaving french beaches in the past seven days. that's almost a thousand stopped in a week, kevin. that's good news. >> that's cracking news. it it really is good news. and we should be shouting it from the rooftops because we have been very critical. and this is good news. it perhaps proves that things are beginning to turn a little bit in our favour and hopefully stopping people making this awful journey. >> now, kev, there is one

caveat, and i hate to be a party pooper because we are having a good time here sharing some good news. these figures apparently are based on estimates given to the home office , by the the home office, by the gendarmes, by the french police. so their estimates based on averages. do you think there in that case, kev, a true reflection of what's actually happening on those french beaches. >> they're pretty accurate , the >> they're pretty accurate, the french are aren't aren't going to invent figures to make themselves look good. it. because if they did and they were found out, nobody would listen to them ever again. so i think these figures are pretty accurate. and, yeah , it is good accurate. and, yeah, it is good news, martin. i mean, there's not a lot more i can say other than well done. the french and, i'm very happy that they're doing it. >> yeah, i think we should record that little moment there, kevin saunders saying, well done to the french. do you know what, kev? i'm going to join you. well done to the french if this is true. and if almost a thousand have been stopped in one week alone, this is what we want to

heat alone, this is what we want to hear. maybe that half £1 billion is actually having some results. and this is precisely kev, the sort of information that the government should be shouting from the rooftops. >> yes, it is . it does go to >> yes, it is. it does go to prove that we have spent a lot of money there. we've given them some really good bits of kit, they're using them. and this looks as though they're getting the results that we hoped that they were going to get so long may continue. i think this week is going to be a very key week in the crossings, because the weather is supposed to be relatively good, so the people smugglers will be doing their best to get the people across. and i just hope that the french authorities are up to stopping them all, because if this sort of figure is repeated at the end of figure is repeated at the end of this week or beginning of next week, then we really can get quite excited . get quite excited. >> okay, kevin saunders yeah, once again, we'll get back to having a pop at the french next week. but for now, well done. kevin saunders always a pleasure

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as britain's eurovision entrant says the union flag. campfield, divisive and nationalist. i'll ask, is the event about as much fun as it used to be? was it just another victim of identity politics? virtue signalling nonsense? now the prime minister has been accused of gaslighting britain over the economy. shadow chancellor rachel reeves made the claim to business leaders earlier on today , saying that earlier on today, saying that the government is deluded over the government is deluded over the success of its economic plans. well, gb news business and economics editor liam halligan put a question to reeves at the keynote speech earlier on today. >> do you think that's a fair characterisation of the mpc? the former governor saying that that lack of cognitive diversity has added to instability led to higher inflation than would otherwise be the case? and also, do you think the obr should be stronger or weaker than it currently is ? specifically, currently is? specifically, should elected politicians take more notice or less notice of obr forecasts, which have often

been rather, to be fair , been rather, to be fair, inaccurate ? inaccurate? >> well, i think that we should respect independent economic institutions, and one of the reasons why we are in the mess that we are in today is because of the decisions of the conservatives. when liz truss was prime minister and kwasi kwarteng was chancellor, it wasn't just the unfunded tax cuts that they promised, but it was also the undermining of the economic institutions that had previously made britain a safe and secure place to invest. so sacking the respected permanent secretary of the treasury, tom scholar, refusing to let the obr do a forecast even though they said they were able to, or spending the leadership campaign undermining the bank of england. all of those contributed to the financial and economic crisis that we faced just 18 months ago. and i think the lessons from that is that we should respect more and listen more to those independent economic institutions, rather than seek

to further undermine them. and that would certainly be my approach as chancellor of the exchequer . exchequer. >> liam halligan joins me now with on the money . liam, an with on the money. liam, an excellent question. holding power to account that expect no less from you, my old son. can you tell me, though , for a you tell me, though, for a simple fella like me, what does gaslighting mean ? gaslighting mean? >> well, look, labour had nothing really to say in terms of economic policy today. it was all politics. it was all about getting ahead of the monetary policy committee's meeting at the bank of england on thursday, and which we're likely to hear lots of words about inflation coming down. we won't actually get a new inflation number, but i think the bank of england will certainly be saying interest rates are coming and coming quite soon. and then the following day on friday, there's going to be a gdp number, a national income number, growth number. that's almost certainly going to show that the uk economy isn't necessarily out of the woods, but has returned to

growth after the recession, the shrinking of the economy at the back end of last year. so rachel reeves calls together for, you know, the country's economics editors and a lot of the political editors showed up to, of course, and basically just played politics with all of us by using this term gaslighting. now, my mum doesn't know what gaslighting means. martin and i suggest that, you know , various suggest that, you know, various relatives in your family may not know what gaslighting means ehhen know what gaslighting means either, particularly if they're over 50. it's the kind of thing that your teenage daughter screams at you, as in, don't gaslight me, dad. just when you're saying something that's completely obvious, maybe making an argument that's a little bit inconvenient. it stems from a 19305 inconvenient. it stems from a 1930s film, in which a cad, a scoundrel, a bounder, as they had back in those days, probably with a chiselled jaw, and a cravat was treating a lady in a bad way , trying to kind of bad way, trying to kind of psychoanalyse her and trick her into thinking, that black was

white. if you like. and labour knows that everyone today is going to be saying, well, what is gaslight? what is gaslighting? and it's a bit like having a row over the £385 million or whatever it was dunng million or whatever it was during the, the, brexit referendum, that old dominic cummings trick. just get him talking about it, even if there's a bit of controversy, aren't labour silly to use the term like gaslighting? no one knows what it means. oh, we're all talking about it, even though all labour are basically saying is. and here's the punchline, wait for it. they're saying even if growth is getting better, even if there is a feel good factor in the economy coming down the track, or if the government says there is, they're lying . we're not going they're lying. we're not going to do a victory lap just because inflation is returning to target, says rachel reeves. we're not going to celebrate the return to growth of 0% growth, says rachel reeves. there's an awful lot of politics, and perhaps the most political thing about today's sort of press conference, not press conference, not press conference, if you know what i mean, because there was no real news is that it was introduced

by a former tory minister that you probably haven't heard of, called nick boles, who, of course, left the tories because he was extremely upset that they actually wanted to implement the brexit referendum and leave the european union. nick boles will contest that. he says he's just following his instincts. he hasn't joined the labour party formally, but i'm sure he'll be hoping to in the future . he'll hoping to in the future. he'll certainly be wheeled out, as will other conservative, floor crossers, if you like, though i must say nick boles hasn't formally joined the labour party, but there will be more and more tory faces or ex tory faces now being seen with labour in and around labour providing kind of ornamentation, if you like . as the election approaches like. as the election approaches . it's really quite interesting. martin, what rachel reeves , said martin, what rachel reeves, said in terms of liz truss to she's repeating this mantra, which many economists are now ,

many economists are now, contesting, albeit late in the day , that that mini—budget, the day, that that mini—budget, the blow up or the increase in bond yields, borrowing costs back in the autumn of 2022, when kwasi kwarteng and liz truss did their mini—budget, it was partly about their unfunded and, spending pledges, and it was partly that they were heavy handed sacking they were heavy handed sacking the permanent secretary of the treasury and so on, and not heeding any forecasts from the obr. but it's also that the bank of england was selling lots of bondsin of england was selling lots of bonds in the days before. that's now come clear, which roiled financial markets and would have led to instability potentially vie whatever liz truss and kwasi kwarteng did. so there's a lot of rewriting of history going on here. there's a lot of contested historical episodes that have been treated by as fact asserted as fact for political convenience. but look, rachel reevesis convenience. but look, rachel reeves is probably going to be the first female chancellor in the first female chancellor in the world. she is a competent person. i've known her for many

years , as i do not think that years, as i do not think that she is going to be, you know, unleashing wildly left wing policies that will instantly upset financial markets and cause instability. i don't think that at all. but what she's shown today is in that road to number 10 or most likely number 11. in her case, she and the labour party, they're really willing to play pretty hardball politics and also themselves try and gaslight the public by getting us to talk about things where there's nothing to talk about. >> well, mission accomplished on that sense, if nothing else, liam halligan that's clear as day. thank you very much. always a pleasure to have you on the show. and of course, there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00. i'll discuss the claim from a former irish taoiseach that a united ireland will be the most desirable outcome for people and communities across ireland. but is that the case? first, it's time for your latest news headunes time for your latest news headlines and it's sophia

wenzler . wenzler. >> martin. thank you. it's 331. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your headlines. the newsroom. your headlines. the shadow chancellor says britain's economy is in a worse state than many people think in a speech in london earlier, rachel reeves said the government isn't being honest with voters, citing the prime minister's claims that britain has turned a corner. she said voters need to ask themselves whether they feel better off under 14 years of the tories. downing street has declined to blame a specific state or actor for a cyber attack on the ministry of defence . that's despite earlier defence. that's despite earlier reports suggesting china was the prime suspect. it's after a massive hacking attack compromised bank details and some addresses of serving defence personnel and veterans. prime minister rishi sunak says swift action has been taken. >> there are indications that a malign actor has compromised the armed forces payment network,

but i do want to reassure people that ministry of defence has already taken action and removing the network from offline, taking it offline and making sure that people affected are supported in the right way. now there's a limit to what i can say about this now, but the defence secretary will be making a full statement to parliament later today. >> and in royal news, it's been confirmed that prince harry will not meet the king while he's in the uk. this week. harry landed in london this morning ahead of an event marking ten years since the invictus games launched. however a spokesperson for the duke of sussex told gb news it's unfortunately not possible due to his majesty's fall programme, adding that the prince is understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him soon. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb news .com/ screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts .

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gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, welcome to the show. so you went to a press briefing this morning. as i understand, the authorities are geanng understand, the authorities are gearing up to tackle what they see as a huge wave of potential hooliganism at the tournament. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> well, they're certainly not saying they're expecting hooliganism and they are preparing for the worst. of course, if it happens. but hoping for the best. they say that in recent tournaments, england fans and of course scotland fans have been pretty well behaved. but there will be very significant numbers attending that tournament, which gets underway in just over five weeks time. that first match is scotland taking on germany in munich and of course , just two munich and of course, just two days later it's england against serbia near dortmund. so 300,000 england fans alone . they're england fans alone. they're expecting because it's so

accessible, because we've had recent international tournaments that have taken place in qatar and in russia, much more difficult for fans to get to now. it is a tournament within easy reach. so given that there will be a significant british policing presence, the biggest deployment of british officers in germany for about a decade, according to policing leaders . i according to policing leaders. i spoke earlier to chief constable mark roberts, who is the national lead for football policing. this is what he told me. >> positive. you know, england fans got a great record at recent tournaments. we know when any number of that people travel. there's always potential for issues, but i think the german authorities are really well prepared and i think one of the positives, particularly thinking about our fans , thinking about our fans, germany's a beer drinking culture. so the police are well aware of dealing with people in the night time economy. they deal with plenty of big festivals. so i think we're going to a place that is well

suhed going to a place that is well suited to work with us, to keep everyone safe and make sure there's no issues . there's no issues. >> well, of course, international england and scotland fans have been pretty well behaved of late , but the well behaved of late, but the issue really comes against a backdrop here in england of disorder around football grounds and arrests related to that being at a nine year high. so that, of course, gives authorities some concern and there will be some concerns back here in the uk as well. there will be some concerns back here in the uk as well . so it's here in the uk as well. so it's not just out in germany. there will be significant numbers heading out to bars, to pubs that will be open late during the tournament and always the potential for disorder back home. >> thank you mark. and as you say, the british fans have been very well behaved in recent years. let's hope the east european counterparts can say the same during this tournament. thank you mike wife joining us.

always a pleasure. now a former irish prime minister has said a unhed irish prime minister has said a united ireland will be the most desirable outcome for people and communities across ireland. well i'm going to speak to an author who says unification is inevitable. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel.

welcome back. and viewers on gb news can now see live pictures on your screens from the house of commons. and later this afternoon, grant shapps, the defence secretary will make a statement about a huge data breach affecting british army personnel. and will the government blame china for the government blame china for the latest cyber attack ? and now the latest cyber attack? and now some very controversial comments from the former irish taoiseach, bertie ahern. he's claimed that a united ireland would be the most desirable outcome for people and communities across ireland, while ahern said it is

not a short term goal, all of those who believe in change must be committed to putting in the hard yards to build a prospectus that reaches across traditional divides, and demonstrates that our unionist neighbours that they will be respected, their traditions will be cherished and their children will be at home in the new ireland that we build together. well, on the face of it , that's stirring, cohesive it, that's stirring, cohesive stuff. and i'm joined now by kevin maher , who is the author kevin maher, who is the author of a book called a united ireland. why unification is inevitable and how it will come about. kev, welcome to the show. always a delight to have your company. so this must be music to your ears. they respect and former premier saying this is now inevitable . but is he right? now inevitable. but is he right? >> yes he is. »- >> yes he is. >> i've obviously written a book with that as a title, so i can't i can hardly resile from from what i've written, i suspect. but i think the weight of evidence is starting to bear down in this debate.

>> it's a debate , clearly, >> it's a debate, clearly, that's gone on for a very long time. >> certainly in ireland, and it's a debate that's going to i think, i think impact probably in the next british parliament or certainly the one after that, in the next sort of 5 to 10 years, are we likely to have to make some big decisions about what we do about northern ireland? >> and of course, a lot, a lot of the agreement about this is already there in the good friday agreement from 1998, 25 years ago, 26 years ago, and the good friday agreement creates a created a mechanism for having what's colloquially known as a border poll, a referendum on northern ireland's constitutional future. >> if it looks likely that people would like to join and become part of a united ireland. >> so it's different from the situation we have with scotland , situation we have with scotland, for example, there is no mechanism there for scotland to leave the united kingdom . there leave the united kingdom. there is a mechanism, an agreed mechanism, with the british and irish governments in the good friday agreement, which is an international treaty, as well as a political deal to transfer sovereignty peacefully. if it looks as though majority of people would like to do that.

and we're inching towards that point, and i think that's what bertie ahern is talking about in dubun bertie ahern is talking about in dublin today. okay kevin, there are, however, two flies in the ointment of this debate. >> first, lee, the polling, the polling, when you ask people certainly in northern ireland is against it at most 39% are in favour, 49% against, 11% don't know. so of course it's all to play know. so of course it's all to play for. and kevin, we've had a huge conversation these past couple of weeks, but even yesterday we've seen a massive protest in dublin. a poll out just yesterday showing that a record number of people, 50% of those polled in the south, the liberal, moderate, welcoming european union member open borders living south, saying they want tougher controls on they want tougher controls on the border coming from northern ireland because of a massive influx of asylum seekers. something you and i talk about very , very often, people feeling very, very often, people feeling it's getting totally out of hand.the it's getting totally out of

hand. the population varne has been boosted by 1 hand. the population varne has been boosted by1 million, in been boosted by 1 million, in out of 6 million, 5 million. a huge, huge difference. so kevin, does that put a different spin on this ? on this? >> i think actually it does the reverse. i think what it does is to show to people in the south and to the southern political establishment in dublin that actually the partition of the island of ireland just keeps creating problems for us. it's created problems in the post—brexit era. and of course, that's led to the suspension of the northern ireland assembly for two years. so we've got that problem fixed. and along comes another problem with asylum seekers. so i think what it starts to show to voters and politicians in the south is, is thatis politicians in the south is, is that is that on this small island of 7 million people. so there's more people living in there's more people living in the north—west of england than live on the entire island of ireland. the amount of political energy that's that's spent deaung energy that's that's spent dealing with these recurrent problems , all because we've got problems, all because we've got two jurisdictions on the island of ireland and actually, a lot

of ireland and actually, a lot of the energy all the demographics, the electoral evidence and a lot of the polling as well is suggesting that we're getting closer to the point where the people in northern ireland and the people in the republic of ireland will have that referendum and will vote to unite this, this country once for and all. and it's not just for historical reasons or anything like that. it's for good, hard, practical reasons as well, which we're seeing, of course, with this issue with asylum seekers at the moment . asylum seekers at the moment. but, you know, the economic benefits potentially of these two jurisdictions working together is absolutely enormous . together is absolutely enormous. northern ireland, you know, is reliant on a £10 billion, subsidy from the british taxpayer every single year because it doesn't wash its face financially. it never has, and it never will. so the closer we can get these two jurisdictions to work together, the better it will be economically. now, it's difficult if you're a unionist. it's difficult . there's a lot of it's difficult. there's a lot of emotion. there's a lot of history there. absolutely. get that. but the economic benefits of this are absolutely enormous for everybody.

>> okay, kevin. but we must remember northern ireland of course is a member of the uk. the eu is a member of the european union in ireland. so a massive massive unpicking process will come ahead. kevin. more fascinating stuff. always a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you very much. now the mother of a victim of the manchester arena bombing has begun a 200 mile walk to downing street to demand stronger protections against terrorism in pubuc protections against terrorism in public places. figen murray's son, martyn hett, was one of 22 people who were killed in may 2017 and gb news, northwest of england reporter sophie reaper has this report . has this report. >> on the 22nd of may 2017, 22 people went to a concert at manchester arena but never returned home. one of those people was martyn hett, murdered by suicide bomber salman abedi . by suicide bomber salman abedi. >> it's seven years nearly and i still can't go to bed before

about 11 ish because i feel so ashamed and guilty as a mum because i was fast asleep in bed when he died and i can't reconcile that. i've got a martin shaped hole in my soul somewhere and that will always be there. >> after the attack, the manchester arena inquiry found serious failings in security on the night, which could have prevented it from happening . as prevented it from happening. as a result, for the past five years, fegan has worked tirelessly to try and improve security at uk venues. >> about 18 months after martin died, we went to a theatre in manchester and there was absolutely no security and that completely floored me . then completely floored me. then i looked into it and realised there's no legislation for security at all and i wanted to change that. i just want venues and places, public places , to and places, public places, to have a legal obligation to put security on and keep people safe. thank you, thank you. >> this morning, fegan began the

walk from the spot where her son lost his life, which will take her all the way to downing street. >> a lot of experience at the start, mayor of greater manchester andy burnham told her everyone in the country was behind her. >> i just feel on this seventh anniversary, if we get that cross—party commitment, if we get that date, if it is made clear that it will get passed before the general election , before the general election, that is, in the end, the best way we can mark that , that seven way we can mark that, that seven year milestone and make sure that forever, everyone else will have a greater safety as they as they go out and about with 186 miles to cover , fegan and her miles to cover, fegan and her team will arrive on the seventh anniversary of the attack, and until then , she wants as many until then, she wants as many people to get involved as possible . possible. >> sophie reaper gb news. >> sophie reaper gb news. >> march with a mission. fantastic stuff. now loads of you have been getting in touch

with your essays and the topic that's really got you going are those 21,700 missing migrants? paula said this my street, my town, my country and my culture are being destroyed by governments who are inflicting mass , uncontrolled immigration mass, uncontrolled immigration upon me. janet quickly adds this i thought the migrants were fingerprinted then, given their pocket money. and why isn't their dna taken and id cards given? we have to make this country as tight as we can. thank you for those comments, paul and janet and the rest of you, please keep them coming in now. defence secretary grant shappsis now. defence secretary grant shapps is about to make a major statement on a major cyber attack on the ministry of defence. the big question is this will he blame china will cross lie to the house of commons for that as it comes live. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel now it's your weather with alex biryukov. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. on today's show, the british armed forces community is majorly hacked off after the chinese were accused of hacking their personal details of up to 270,000 personnel, reservists and even veterans . and shortly and even veterans. and shortly we'll cross the defence secretary, grant shapps, who's due to give a full statement in the house of commons next lit by freedom of information request, has revealed that an astonishing 21,107 asylum seekers have simply vanished into thin air in five years, and most of them have no right whatsoever to be in britain . yet experts fear the in britain. yet experts fear the true figure could be much, much higher. how on earth did this disaster happen ? and prince disaster happen? and prince harry's in the uk this week, but he won't be meeting his father. spokesperson for harry says it's because of his majesty's full program. it doesn't exactly reflect well on the duke, now does it? that's all to come

between now and 6:00. well, the show always a delight to have your company grant shapps. the defence secretary is about to address the commons. we'll we'll cross live to that. how on earth can the chinese hack their way into the ministry of defence database? 270,000 people. well, including. and this is the bit that's really concerned me, including addresses of some of our servicemen, servicewomen, reservists and veterans. there are all number of reasons that the addresses of our armed forces should be sacrosanct, sacred and protected to the very, very highest degree . in very, very highest degree. in technical terms, possible. that hasn't happened . we're about to hasn't happened. we're about to find out who did it or will we not find out? will they bottle it? we're going to cross the commons to find out. what's your take on that? are our servicemen and servicewomen details safe in the hands of our government or

as it's been a major, major lapse? let me know what you think and also your thoughts on other topics, including 21,000 missing migrants and unifying ireland. is that inevitable? loads of you got in touch saying that you don't want that to happen. you're proudly northern irish and want to remain british. get in touch the usual ways. plus the new way it's gbnews.com/yoursay send your opinions over. i'll read them out before the end of the show. but first it's your headlines andifs but first it's your headlines and it's sam francis . and it's sam francis. >> martin, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. it's just coming up to 4:03, and we start with some breaking news coming to us out of scotland this afternoon, where john swinney has become the new first minister there after humza yousaf resigned from that post. if you're watching on television, you can see here live pictures coming to us from the scottish parliament, where john swinney is currently speaking. that's after he won the backing of 64 of his colleagues. well, it's after

humza yousaf delivered an emotional speech earlier and he said his heart would forever belong to scotland and that leading his country had given him the opportunity to defy those he called racist bigots . those he called racist bigots. in other news, the shadow chancellor claims the government's optimism about the uk economy. is she says, deluded and out of touch. speaking in london earlier , rachel reeves london earlier, rachel reeves said the conservatives aren't being honest with voters . being honest with voters. >> the conservatives are gaslighting the british public. they say we've turned a corner and they ask people to stick with the conservative party, but it is those very conservatives who are set to leave the average household and £870 worse off through stealth, taxes and increases in council tax. the prime minister claims that he is delivering for the country , but delivering for the country, but the british people did not order

what this prime minister is delivering . delivering. >> rachel reeves there. china has strongly denied reports that it's behind a cyber attack on the ministry of defence, calling those accusations completely fabricated. bank details of service personnel and veterans have potentially been compromised, and it's claimed a small number of addresses could have also been accessed. the defence secretary, grant shapps , defence secretary, grant shapps, is due to give a statement to the commons this afternoon . the commons this afternoon. rishi sunak has so far refused to blame china for the hack . to blame china for the hack. >> there are indications that a malign actor has compromised the armed forces payment network, but i do want to reassure people that ministry of defence has already taken action and removing the network offline, taking it offline and making sure that people affected are supported in the right way. now there's a limit to what i can say about this now, but the defence secretary will be making a full statement to parliament later today . later today. >> in royal news, it has been confirmed this afternoon that prince harry will not meet the king while he's in the uk this

week. harry landed in london this morning ahead of an event marking ten years since the invictus games launched . invictus games launched. however, a spokesperson for the duke of sussex has told gb news it's unfortunately not possible for them to meet due to his majesty's full programme, adding that the prince is understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him soon. more than 2000 football banning orders have been issued to england fans ahead of euro 2024, which is due to kick off in germany next month . fans who were banned must month. fans who were banned must hand over their passports for the duration of the tournament. it comes as football related arrests in england and wales are at a nine year high. german police say they are working well with british officers to plan for a safe event for supporters . for a safe event for supporters. house prices have largely plateaued for the first part of this year. that's according to a new report from halifax. the price of an average british home rose by 0.1% in april, after falling by 0.9% in march. the

lender says the data reflects a housing market finding its feet in an era of high interest rates . we've heard today that children in scotland who question their gender are being referred to identity clinics because doctors are fearful of what's been described as toxic debate . doctor hilary cass was debate. doctor hilary cass was speaking at the scottish parliament's health committee this morning after her study into gender services in england. she said there was fearfulness among doctors who don't know how to treat the gender issues that some children are facing. she told the committee that the toxic nature of the gender debate means that medical professionals are afraid of doing or saying the wrong thing, leaving many young people with inadequate care . israel's inadequate care. israel's military says it does now have operational control over the gaza side of the rafah border crossing, with egypt . it's crossing, with egypt. it's pushing ahead with its offensive on the city in a move that international leaders are calling a dangerous escalation in the conflict . it's after in the conflict. it's after benjamin netanyahu said the

terms of the latest ceasefire deal were far from meeting israel's core demands. deal were far from meeting israel's core demands . a israel's core demands. a spokesperson from the us state department, though, insists a dealis department, though, insists a deal is still absolutely achievable . and ukraine's achievable. and ukraine's security service says it's caught russian agents within the state guard service who were plotting the assassination of president zelenskyy. ukraine says russia's fsb had planned to eliminate the president of ukraine and other top military and political leaders . when it and political leaders. when it comes on the day that the russian president was inaugurated for a fifth term following elections widely seen as illegitimate . those are the as illegitimate. those are the latest headlines. i'll be back in half an hour with another update. until then, you can sign update. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts . to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you sam. now we start

with a huge data breach at the ministry of defence that is widely being blamed on china and details of armed forces personnel were on a database that was targeted by a cyber attack and soon will, of course, hear live from defence secretary grant shapps very shortly. he's about to give a major speech in the commons. this is just the build up to that now. grant shappsis build up to that now. grant shapps is expected to talk soon, and we spoke to the prime minister earlier on. when pressed on this, he said it was a malign actor. he said he couldn't go into any more details. he wouldn't blame the chinese outright at that point. this, this morning, perhaps mr shapps will go a stage further and actually give us some more detail, but just some reference to the allegations here. the ministry of defence was hacked, apparently 2 or 3 times, and the details of 270,000 armed forces personnel , reservists and even personnel, reservists and even army veterans, were hacked. it

was mostly their names, then their bank account details. that's bad enough. who would want their bank details known by the chinese or indeed anybody? but here's the thing that really , really concerns me. apparently, amongst that information were the addresses, the home addresses of armed service personnel, present and past. now, for a great number of reasons, that it's hugely , reasons, that it's hugely, hugely concerning. if people are served in northern ireland, if people have served in afghanistan in, in bosnia, anywhere, particularly with the heightened sense of security we have on british streets at the moment around the middle eastern situation, the notion that british armed forces home addresses could be circulating out there on the internet, to me, is a cause of massive concern, but they have said that all salaries will be paid this month because this was a payroll

that was hacked . now, the prime that was hacked. now, the prime minister did speak earlier about that cyber attack. as i mentioned, rishi sunak says he's taking the matter seriously and is acting to ensure that britain's security interest isn't at risk from hostile state. >> more indications that a malign actor has compromised the armed forces payment network. but i do want to reassure people that ministry of defence has already taken action and removing the network for offline, taking it offline and making sure that people affected are supported in the right way. now there's a limit to what i can say about this now, but the defence secretary will be making a full statement to parliament later today . later today. >> well, i'm joined now by our political correspondent, olivia utley . olivia, welcome to the utley. olivia, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. another hostile attack, another huge embarrassment . the prime embarrassment. the prime minister, rishi sunak, stopping short there of directly blaming the chinese. of course we're about to hear from grant shapps the defence secretary, quite soon. but the sensitivity of

this data, olivia, particularly pertaining to armed service personnel, this is the massive embarrassment . embarrassment. >> absolutely. and from what we're hearing in a small number of cases, the personal home addresses of some of these army veterans and serving personnel have been compromised. this is really, really embarrassing for britain and obviously raises lots of questions for the prime minister. one of those questions is about how the uk organises its procurement. so this company, which has been breached was a third party company which was a third party company which was given the contract to, to do the sort of hr systems for military personnel. was that company the right one because it security seems to be pretty lax as this was allowed to happen. of course. another huge question for the government is where does this, where does this put the government's relationship with china? so far , rishi sunak has china? so far, rishi sunak has been pretty dovish on china. dufing been pretty dovish on china. during the 2022 leadership race, liz truss said that she wanted to designate china as a threat,

but rishi sunak stopped short of doing that and has continued to say that china is a challenge rather than a threat. obviously at this stage, ministers are unable to actually say that it was china. all of the indications point in that direction. but for ministers to actually point the finger of blame to a specific hostile state, the level of evidence has to be very, very high. and that could take months to obtain. so the statement that we're expecting from grant shapps in a few minutes will be will be about the dangers of cyber security in general, rather than the dangers posed by china. but i doubt that will satisfy concern of backbenchers. there are plenty of backbenchers, including some very, very senior tories, who are really worried about the threat from china and this will have just got them even more agitated. >> yeah . and olivia, >> yeah. and olivia, strategically, you can see why this would hold a great deal of importance for the chinese or any malign actor, because we're always talking about how seriously we need to take our defence in terms of gdp, in terms of nuclear armaments. and

if we can't even protect payroll databases, it sends out a message of a ramshackle organisation. but, olivia, here's the point . what always here's the point. what always happensin here's the point. what always happens in these situations is that we summons a minister or a foreign diplomat. we make them a cup of tea. we tell them not to do it again, and nothing ever seems to happen . seems to happen. >> well, exactly. which is why lots of conservative backbenchers would like to see much, much tougher action taken. but rishi sunak is really wary of doing that because he says china is very important for britain's economy . britain's economy. unfortunately, we aren't very self—reliant as a country and over the last 20, 30 years, and especially since the days of david cameron and the golden era of relationships with beijing, britain has been pretty reliant on china for all sorts of imports. so that's a really big problem . another problem, which problem. another problem, which sunak has talked about time and again, is the importance of keeping strategic relationships with china open for the climate.

and that's something which really annoys his backbenchers . really annoys his backbenchers. those are the reasons why rishi sunak wants to keep that dialogue open with china, wants to stop short of calling them a threat . he keeps calling it to stop short of calling them a threat. he keeps calling it an epoch defining challenge, which is slightly different from a threat. the semantics are really important here, but as you say, there will be plenty of both conservative backbenchers and voters out in the country who get a bit frustrated that when this happens, all that seems to the only retribution seems to be a bit of a slap on the wrist. is that really enough? >> and it's fair to say that at some point in the last few decades, olivia the red dragon has wrapped itself around the world. it's hoovered up most of the resources we need the lithium to make batteries , to lithium to make batteries, to make superconductors, and it can act with reckless abandon because we've offshored our manufacturing of surrendered our steel industry in the name of net zero. we'd rather import everything than manufacture anything. and that gives the chinese a huge amount of power.

we can puff our chests up and shout and stamp our feet all we like, but the chinese know they hold all the cards . hold all the cards. >> well, it is very difficult for britain as we know our energy security is pretty poor at the moment. the government is sort of moving vaguely in the right direction with this , right direction with this, talking about nuclear power at last, talking about, making our own micro conductors , talking own micro conductors, talking about carrying on, doing drilling in the north sea, giving those hundred new licences for north sea oil drilling . but for lots of drilling. but for lots of people, it feels like too little, too late. as you say , little, too late. as you say, china and other perhaps hostile states have got their claws into britain. we are hugely, hugely reliant on beijing. so cutting those ties now would be really painful for the uk, which is why, obviously the prime minister wants to tread very carefully indeed, but i think that'll be cold comfort to the serving military personnel whose details have now been compromised. >> olivia utley excellent as ever. >> olivia utley excellent as ever . thanks for >> olivia utley excellent as ever. thanks forjoining us. and

i'm now joined by evan fowler, who's a consultant to the inter—parliamentary alliance on china . welcome to the show. china. welcome to the show. always a pleasure to have your company . we were just discussing company. we were just discussing there with olivia utley. isn't that the point? china basically has taken over the world without firing a shot. it's hoovered up all of the all of the elements and the minerals that we need to make mobile phones, to make batteries , to make cars. and it batteries, to make cars. and it can hack our details and this manner with impunity. we can summon a foreign dignitary, we can make them a cup of tea and give them a slap on the wrist. but nothing will happen, will it? the red dragon rules and we're merely lap dogs in this equation. >> well, i've got a little bit more faith, actually. in, in, you know, both the uk and i think our allies as well. >> i mean, i don't think , i >> i mean, i don't think, i don't think we're quite sort of lap dogs, but what is concerning though is of course, you know, this, this, this hack really sort of comes, as part of a, a broader sort of campaign to, to, you know, sort of infiltrate,

you know, sort of infiltrate, you know, sort of infiltrate, you know, sort of sort of open societies and, and democratic systems around the world. and, you know, it's certainly part of a broader thrust by the chinese to assert themselves . and, you to assert themselves. and, you know, that that is, of course, concerning . concerning. >> evan, it's one thing to blindly be disruptive, to be a kind of wasp at a picnic, if you like. but this is very, very different to have the home addresses of active and veteran servicemen and servicewomen is deeply, deeply concerned. that's highly, highly sensitive information, information that should be guarded and protected at the very, very highest level. is that why this happens? it's deliberately designed to show that we're not protecting our closest assets. we're not really in control , closest assets. we're not really in control, and all the time we're vulnerable . we're vulnerable. >> i don't think we know at the moment i mean, the reality is, you know, there's only a very

limited amount of information that's actually been been sort of put out there. but, you know, certainly, again, what we can say is that, you know, if indeed sort of china is responsible which, which, you know, seems seems likely, you know , it does seems likely, you know, it does sort of follow a wider pattern and, you know, i don't necessarily sort of think that they're, they're trying to signal anything. i mean, i think an important thing we have to understand here is for, you know, for china and, and for the chinese communist party, this is actually part of competing . this actually part of competing. this is the way, you know, they don't see this as hybrid warfare. they see this as hybrid warfare. they see this as just sort of a, you know, something you do when you are competing with with your competition. so but i don't think our servicemen and servicewomen will feel that. >> they will feel this is so desperately secretive information, sensitive information, sensitive information, and which should never be put out there. we're about to cross to the house of commons. the defence secretary, grant shapps, is about to deliver a speech. evan, what do you think he'll say? do you

think he'll verge on the side of diplomacy, or would he get on the front foot and say this must stop? well i mean, i think for first of all, the question we should be asking is whether he's going to come out and actually say, you know, who who did this? >> so, you know, i think it's almost certain that he's going to sort of come out and say, you know, this was the action of a state, whether he chooses to name the state, i think will actually say a lot about our relationship with whoever, you know, whoever, we, we believe has done this, but but you're absolutely right. i mean, the thing is, you know, this is important data. this is very personal data. you know, i think people who join the armed forces should, should, have an expectation that the government will be be protecting this data. and for me, one of the key things would be to sort of say, well, you know, we have a foreign influence registration scheme. there's only two tiers on that scheme, why is china not in the enhanced tier, okay. superb sir. thanks forjoining

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from the house of commons. and grant shapps is about to make a major statement about a huge data breach affecting british army personnel. up to 270,000 have been affected. and will the government blame china for that cyber attack? will cross lie to that as , as and when it happens that as, as and when it happens now labour has accused rishi sunak of gaslighting britain over the economy. shadow chancellor rachel reeves made the claim to business leaders earlier today, saying that the government is deluded over the success of its economic plans. well gb news business and economics editor liam halligan was at the speech earlier and he joins me now with on the money . joins me now with on the money. liam, always a pleasure to have your company. we learnt me a new word today gaslighting, which means telling a lie until when people actually believe it. rachel reeves coming out fighting, saying that the tories are deluding people on the

economy. but there are some good numbers coming up on the gdp figures. liam, sir, of the labour party, just trying to undermine the tories in any way possible . possible. >> yeah, i think what the press conference is about today, the shadow chancellor called the economics editors a lot of political editors came to the city of london, but there wasn't actually any kind of economic policy announcement. it was all really just position ing, the shadow chancellor used this phrase gaslighting, as in the tories are gaslighting the british public on the economy. you know, i guess it's a decent spin tactic. you get people asking each other in the office and in places of work if they actually know what gaslighting means, because lots of people don't. it comes from a 1930s film. it's a phrase that lots of young people use when they feel they're being put under pressure, trying to be fool ed by somebody else. misinformation and so on. and what rachel reevesis and so on. and what rachel reeves is basic accusation was,

was that if any conservative government, any conservative minister or mp or shall we say , minister or mp or shall we say, election campaigner tells you that the economy is getting better , they're not speaking the better, they're not speaking the truth. they're out of touch. they don't realise , in the words they don't realise, in the words of rachel reeves, that for working people, recovery is still a long way off. and on the one hand, she's got a point in the sense that the cost of living crisis is still with us. the impact of the cost of living crisis has been felt unevenly in an uneven way. you know, inflation always hits the poor hardest inflation for the necessities like food, shelter, fuel, household utilities has been much , much higher than been much, much higher than inflation across the economy as a whole. so, of course, less well—off households disproportionately spend on those necessities. so inflation has been higher for them. on the other hand, it is the case that on friday we're going to get a gdp number, a number of about

national income , the size of the national income, the size of the economy from the office for national statistics and it's more than likely going to show that the uk is actually escaped recession during the first three months of this year, having shrank, been in recession during the last six months of last year . so rather than allowing the government , rishi sunak, government, rishi sunak, chancellor jeremy government, rishi sunak, chancellorjeremy hunt government, rishi sunak, chancellor jeremy hunt the chance to say , hey, the economy chance to say, hey, the economy is growing, we're out of recession , interest rate cuts recession, interest rate cuts are coming. and by the way, the bank of england on thursday is likely to say that there will be more. there will be interest rate cuts coming, even if we don't actually see those interest rate cuts on thursday , interest rate cuts on thursday, when the monetary policy committee next meets labour are getting out ahead of that and they're trying to kind of queer they're trying to kind of queer the government's pitch, if you like , be the blot on the like, be the blot on the landscape because the tories only real hope now in this election, or at least the basis of the strategy to the extent that they have one, is to wait for interest rate cuts to fall, wait for tax cuts to come in,

wait for tax cuts to come in, wait for tax cuts to come in, wait for house prices to tick up a little bit, which of course won't please lots of young people. but does generally mean more consumer spending . rachel more consumer spending. rachel reevesis more consumer spending. rachel reeves is telling us that if the government says the economy is improving, they're not telling you the truth and they're out of touch. and that apparently is gaslighting . gaslighting. >> i am liam halligan that is precisely why you've been predicting for many months. mystic liam . you generally get mystic liam. you generally get it right all the time. a later election will help the conservatives because it will allow those green shoots to come through and they can say, see, we told you so. you can trust us on the economy. >> that's true. but even that is backfiring. as i've been writing in the sunday telegraph in recent weeks, because if there is going to be an interest rate cut before a november election , cut before a november election, it may only be one two at the most, certainly not three. as the conservative strategists were hoping when they decided in

the sort of february march this year to go long. if you like to keep us away from a general election until october november rather than going for a general election in april or may, the interest rate cuts that the government's banking on that lots of households are banking on, that lots of firms are banking on that. lots of people with debt in general are banking on. they may not come as quickly as has previously been the case. why do i say that inflation in america is actually going up? the next move in interest rates in the united states could even be up. certainly there is a delay in interest rates coming down all prices, gas prices have been trending upwards off the back of geopolitical angst. again, people will be screaming at the telly. but what does the bank of england got to do with oil prices? how will higher interest rates harming my family finances mean that oil prices come down? they they it doesn't, of course. they're completely unrelated . covid. but when there

unrelated. covid. but when there is higher oil prices, there will be more inflation, which means it's harder for the bank of england to cut interest rates when inflation is moving away from the government's 2% target. it's currently at 3.2. rather than moving towards it. look, no one says that central banking is easy. it isn't easy, and no one says that. politics always has to be straightforward either . to be straightforward either. the mpc has got a tough job. i don't think there's going to be an interest rate cut on thursday. i do think the economy is going to show growth on friday, and there will be lots of mood music about interest rate cuts coming soon. labour doesn't want the government to have a free hit on that mood. music come at the end of the week, and that's why rachel reeves called economics and business editors and political editors to the city today this morning, to tell them that the pubucis morning, to tell them that the public is being gaslit. whatever. fascinating stuff, as eve r. >> even >> brilliant. liam halligan. and we've taught us all a newword, thank you very much. now, still lots more to come between now

and 5:00 and following dire local election results , is it local election results, is it time for the conservatives to call a general election? but first, it's your headlines and it's sam francis. >> 432 i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom . a recap of the newsroom. a recap of the headunes newsroom. a recap of the headlines this hour. john swinney has become scotland's new first minister, calling it an extraordinary privilege to accept the post. in the last few minutes, mr swinney has been addressing the scottish parliament after winning the backing of 64 of his colleagues. he replaces humza yousaf , who he replaces humza yousaf, who formally resigned from the position earlier. speaking from holyrood frontbench for the final time in the role, mr yousaf said his heart would forever belong to scotland and that leading his country had given him the opportunity to defy those he called racist bigots . the shadow chancellor bigots. the shadow chancellor says britain's economy is in a worse state than many people think. in a speech in london earlier, rachel reeves said the

government isn't being honest with voters, citing the prime minister's claims that britain has turned a corner. she said voters need to ask themselves whether they really feel better off after 14 years of the tories . in royal news, it's been confirmed that prince harry will not meet the king while he's in the uk. this week harry landed in london this morning ahead of an event marking ten years since the invictus games launched. however, a spokesperson for the duke of sussex told gb news it's unfortunately not possible for them to .meet due to his majesty's full program , adding majesty's full program, adding that the prince is understanding of his father's commitments and hopes to see him soon. in the us , stormy daniels has told a court that donald trump was wearing satin pyjamas when he welcomed her to his hotel suite at a celebrity golf tournament in 2006. the former adult film star is on the stand today at the former president's criminal trial. prosecutors say mr trump covered up a $130,000 hush money payment that his former lawyer

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and when the defence secretary pops up . now moving on, and when the defence secretary pops up. now moving on, is it is it time to call a general election? well, the tories suffered historic losses in local elections of course, last week , experiencing their worst week, experiencing their worst electoral results in many , many electoral results in many, many years. but in the wake of dire results, the work and pensions secretary has ruled out a snap summer general election, with prime minister rishi sunak saying he's absolutely determined to fight on, well, gb news. the people's channel has been out and about asking what you think . you think. >> i don't think there should be a general election at the moment because obviously due to the current situation around the world, due to the conflicts in gaza, everything we should focus on the humanity around the world and helping out the world. so obviously we should focus on these things first. >> 100. >> 100. >> it's an absolute nightmare. that's what i've got to say. like, it just needs to stop, isn't it? >> yes, i do, because everything's so uncertain at the moment . just get it sorted. moment. just get it sorted. whoever's in power give them a chance and see how it goes, well

, i do think there should be a general election. definitely it's difficult to say who to vote for, but it certainly wouldn't be the tories. >> yes, i do, i think there should be a general election, because i don't think there's been a, a, >> a elected prime minister in a long time . long time. >> well, jo—anne nadler aukus, this is the former labour mp, stephen pound. stephen, welcome to the show. always a delight, as brenda from bristol would say. oh, god , not another one. say. oh, god, not another one. but stephen, we have to have one. sooner or later. the question is when? >> well, in all honesty, martin, there's a case to be made for merciful killing on this particular case because you've got a zombie government mired in sleaze and scandal, staggering from one horror show to another . from one horror show to another. >> but you know and i know it ain't going to happen at the moment. you know what the thing lbj said, lyndon johnson said the first lesson you learn in

politics is how to add up. and the maths just don't make it happen. first of all, the prime minister, he's in his mr micawber road. remember mr micawber road. remember mr micawber from david copperfield, whose motto was, well, something might turn up if you actually look at parliamentary arithmetic. the dup, their former leader, was in court last week. the last thing they want is an election. the snp are all over the shop , you know, there's over the shop, you know, there's no way they're going to want an election. the one green. well, you know, they've got their own issues with. on the one hand you've got people shouting allah akbar when they get elected. on the other hand, they're calling for the ban on halal meat, which is going to be a tricky one. george galloway certainly doesn't want one because he'll be out the door come the next election. so as what it leaves down to is the tory mps. now, look, a lot of them know in all honesty, they're not total fools. they know that there's over 100 of them are going to lose their seats at the next election. are they going to give up six months of salary? because don't forget, we all think in politics that we should put country first, you know, constituency second and party third. well, a fair few people on those green benches actually put the wallet first. and i don't honestly think they're going to give that up. so the

reality is the maths just don't make sense. we can't have an election now because as we come into the summer season, we can't have an election. so we have to have an election. so we have to have an election before next january . now have an election before next january. now it ain't going to be in january, ain't going to be over christmas. therefore i think as ever, liam halligan has put his, slide rule right where it needs to go, and he's indicated november round, about november the 14th. that is, i think the most likely date. >> yeah, i think the smart money is on that . let the hullabaloo is on that. let the hullabaloo of the american presidential election get out the way first. of course, that is november the 5th. literally fireworks night. of course, ed davey is stamping his feet today demanding a general election, but there's more chance of that happening than me becoming an astronaut. stephen. and it wasn't it interesting how you said that an astronaut . astronaut. >> let's be let's be honest about that. look, i mean, ed davey, i have to say, if he spent half as much time actually trying to do some good for the country as he does in creating these ludicrous, ridiculous photo opportunities, smashing down blue brick walls and dressing people up as dinosaurs

and all that nonsense. you know, the liberal democrats don't need any help to be made stupid and risible, you know? but on the other hand, they're making a pretty damn good job of it. so, you know, i used to get on fine. well, with ed, ed and i were both in the house of commons when we were both inveterate secret smokers, and we didn't gather behind the bike sheds , gather behind the bike sheds, but we gathered behind any sheds we could find, you know, to puff on a fag from time to time. i like the bloke. he's a nice guy, but, you know, he's leading a party that doesn't know where it's going, tries to face both ways and, you know, it's like mr push me, pull you. the reality is that i think you're absolutely right, martin. not for the first time. i think we're looking at, november. but what the government is hoping for and, you know , liam said for and, you know, liam said earlier on, i think this friday we might have this the most smidgen of good news. it's not even good news. it's just not awful news. so it is less awful than it was. you know , we were than it was. you know, we were in recession. you know, we're the only european country, the only advanced economy in recession. we might be out of recession. we might be out of recession by 0.0, nought five of gdp. well, you know, bells and whistles, matey. i mean, that makes us worse off than poland ,

makes us worse off than poland, you know, and fair play to the plucky poles. but, you know, i don't actually think that they should be the comparator for our economy in this country. now stephen, i know that being charitable to the conservatives might come difficult to you, but let's try that for a moment, because not only is it drawing your salary for a few extra months to procrastinate, put the election later, but as you just said, there could be good news economically. >> those green shoots could come. we might actually see the boats slowing down. so therefore there's a good common sense reason to delay that general election date . election date. >> look, the only i mean, in reality, that isn't going to happen because there'd just be one crisis after another. and the chap who said, you know, when you look earlier on in your vox pop about what's happening in gaza, what's happening in ukraine, what's happening in south sudan, what's happening on the pakistan—afghanistan border, what's happening all over the flippin world at the moment. you know, we actually need a bit of stability, not necessarily the sort of, you know, the chaos that would occur. however, as a patriot first, and i genuinely i am, you know, i would actually desperately like to see this country doing better. at the moment, we do look a bit like a laughing stock. we've had.

what's it four prime ministers in and 5 or 6 years. it's a you know, it's a ridiculous situation. if there's any chance of the economy improving and if there's any chance of people's standard of living getting better . i standard of living getting better. i mean, i think in the long term it's going to be rachel reeves that does it. but in the meantime, if it does happen, then fair play. give the government a fair following wind because in all honesty, the poundin because in all honesty, the pound in people's pockets and the food on people's tables is a damn sight more important than party political advantage. i happen to believe that one party can deliver that food on the table. you know that i know that. however, i'd like to see if the government has got a plan and can do something about it. then, you know, let's back them and say in the next six months there's going to have to be an election anyway. so is it really the end of the world if we put it off till then, maybe, you know, after the euros, why not? we'll all be watching that, won't we? >> yeah. and if we win, there might be a feelgood factor. stephen pound always a great value. thanks for joining stephen pound always a great value. thanks forjoining us on value. thanks for joining us on the show. superb. now coming up, i'll be telling you why a british darts player refused to face her opponent in the denmark open quarter finals. transgenderism has hit the hockey. i'm martin daubney on gb

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welcome back. time is 449. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now. british darts player. deta hedman has pulled out of denmark open quarterfinals because she's refusing to face her transgender opponent , noah her transgender opponent, noah lynn van leuven. now hedman says she won't face a man in a women's event. she won't face a man in a women's event . she calls for women's event. she calls for tighter rules around women's sport . well, joining me now to sport. well, joining me now to discuss this is the director of campaigns at sex matters, helen mackinnon. thanks for joining us. fiona bazball. fiona. fiona i just want to get across to our viewers because i was confused about this , why a biological man about this, why a biological man might have an advantage at darts, not basketball or swimming or track and field.

here's what it says on the internet . it says men showed an internet. it says men showed an advantage in performance on tests of spatial cognition, block design and rotation , as block design and rotation, as well as dart throwing tasks that requires both motor skills and spatial cognition. so fiona , spatial cognition. so fiona, that clearly implies something which is probably a hate crime , which is probably a hate crime, that men and women have different brains and therefore it impacts their abilities to play it impacts their abilities to play even darts differently. so getting back to this case, fiona , presumably you think this is a great move in protecting women? >> well, you ask a great question about darts. >> should darts be segregated by sex? of course. the point here is that the darts authorities have made that decision when they have operated both mixed tournaments and women only tournaments. and so they've decided that there are good reasons to have women only darts. now, those could be social reasons , we can imagine social reasons, we can imagine that perhaps women who play darts don't get the same opportunities to practice, or

that it's intimidating or all sorts of things. but having made that decision, i think the deta hedman is saying, well, if i have entered a women only tournament, i don't expect to have to play a man. and i think she's quite within her rights to say that . i think there are say that. i think there are enough opportunities in darts because there are so many mixed tournaments that if it's female only, then that's what women should expect . should expect. >> and fiona, it's fair to say that dieter has been consistent on this. she spoke out a couple of years ago on this. she said, i wouldn't play a man in a ladies event and an astonishing thing happened. fiona, when she pulled out of this quarter final, she forfeited her match. she surrendered the right to win. supporters offered to pay her prize money for her. so clearly people in the audience, darts fans all seem to be behind this move. >> yeah, i think most people want to see fair sport and they know that men and women have different bodies and different

skills and, if a competition is meant to be women only, that's for a good reason. and so, people really don't want to see, you know, people taking advantage of whatever pressure they've been able to put on or whatever sympathy they've garnered, whatever the reason might be, the odd thing about the darts rules is they're, they've they've required testosterone suppression . now, testosterone suppression. now, that doesn't make any difference, really. but it's very odd because why would they expect someone to suppress their testosterone unless that person is male? >> yeah. and of course, that wouldn't impact the parts of the brain that we've talked about there because that's what you're born with and that is cemented at puberty. fiona quickly, do you think we're turning a corner? do you think we are embarking on an era of common sense? post cass report and individual examples like this of darts players, like dieter standing up. i think people are getting a little bit braver to say that we can accommodate people's identities and feelings in many walks of life, but sport is one where we can't do that

without compromising an awful lot of other people. >> so i think they're finding the courage to say that i think it's wrong. that data has to skip, has to. you know, drop out of a tournament. i think that's a, that's not fair to expect women to give up their own opportunity. so we will really have turned a corner when the authorities step in and say a transgender player is welcome, but a male player is not eligible for a women only event. that's when we know we've really got there. >> okay, fantastic . so thanks so >> okay, fantastic. so thanks so much for joining >> okay, fantastic. so thanks so much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. and that's fiona mackinnon, the director of campaigns at sex matters. now you've been sending in loads of your essays. i'm going to read out a couple now on a united ireland. dave says this as a veteran and spending in total two years of my military career pounding the streets of northern ireland, i can tell you a united ireland will never happen. paul adds this united ireland will require major changes in the republic of ireland. at the moment, a large percentage of the irish in the repubuc

percentage of the irish in the republic would refuse to change their flag and their national anthem to accommodate northern ireland into an all ireland state, and ian quickly adds this i was born and live in northern ireland, plus born british and british is how i wish to remain. huge amount of comments coming in there, please send them in. and of course anything else we're talking about in the show, get those views coming in now. defence secretary grant shapps is about to make a major statement about a huge data breach affecting british army personnel. as many as 270,000 were impacted. would he blame china for that cyber attack? we were crossing live to the house of commons to hear the defence secretary, grant shapps on that soon. i'm martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel. now it's time for your weather andifs now it's time for your weather and it's alex . burr. and it's alex. burr. >> with a brighter outlook, with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news.

on. gb news. >> hello again. here's your latest gb news weather from the met office. whilst there will be a bit of rain, particularly across northwestern scotland , across northwestern scotland, and in fact we are now crossing to the house of commons. >> defence secretary grant shappsis >> defence secretary grant shapps is making a statement about that major cyber attack on the ministry of defence. >> a specialist security review of the contractor and their operations is underway and appropriate steps will be taken . appropriate steps will be taken. >> the contractor the contractor operated system in question, is held and holds personal data, a regular and reserve personnel and some recently retired veterans. >> this includes names and bank details and in a smaller number of cases, addresses . of cases, addresses. >> in response to this incident, mr deputy speaker , we've mr deputy speaker, we've undertaken significant and immediate action enacting a multi—point response plan to support and protect our people, and i'd like to provide the house with details of this eight

point plan this afternoon . point plan this afternoon. >> first of all, we've immediately taken the system offline and this has secured it against similar future threats. >> secondly, we have launched a full investigation drawing on cabinet office support and specialist external expertise to examine the potential failings of the contractor and to minimise the risk of similar incidents in the future. >> three whilst our initial investigations have found no evidence that any data has been removed as a precaution, we have today alerted those service personnel affected through the chain of command. in addition , chain of command. in addition, we're also sending out letters to a small number of veterans who have retired and who may have been affected. >> as an additional precaution , >> as an additional precaution, the house will wish to note the vast majority of the uk veterans community are, however, unaffected . for specialist unaffected. for specialist advice and guidance on data .

advice and guidance on data. security has been shared and will be available on gov.uk later today. fifth, we have additionally set up a helpline to support individuals. the number for the helpline . is number for the helpline. is 01249 596665, and that helpline will be available from today six we are providing a commercial personal data protection service for all service personnel, and this facility will constantly monitor each individual's personal data and notify them if there are any irregularities. even though we don't believe that their information has been stolen, we intend to do this in order to bring further peace of mind . seven welfare and mind. seven welfare and financial advice is available where needed through each individual's chain of command and eight on becoming aware of the incident, mod stopped the processing of all payments and isolated the system and i want

to provide further detail on this particular step. we're making changes to the system to ensure it is secure before recommencing payments through it. of course , and i can it. of course, and i can confirm, though, that in the meantime, all april salaries have been paid. some service personnel will have experienced a slight delay in receiving some expense payments. however we expect this to be fully resolved today with the money in their accounts by friday. furthermore i can confirm that we are ensuring all high value payments remain unaffected. for example, all outstanding forces help to buy and terminal benefit payments have been facilitated by alternative secure transfer . by alternative secure transfer. as mentioned, salary payments and pensions for veterans have not been affected and we do not expect them to be in the future. mr deputy speaker , for reasons mr deputy speaker, for reasons of national security, we can't release further details of the suspected cyber activity behind

this incident. however, i can confirm to the house that we do have indications that this was the suspected work of a malign actor and we cannot rule out state involvement. this incident is further proof that the uk is facing rising and evolving threats . and as i set out in my threats. and as i set out in my speech in lancaster house in january, the world is, i'm afraid, becoming somewhat more dangerous. last month, the government therefore announced an increase in defence spending to meet these new threats, reaching 2.5% of gdp by the end of the decade . deputy speaker of the decade. deputy speaker the following this incident i can also announce today that although this incident is entirely unrelated to our own mod networks, we are also reviewing all personnel data to ensure our people's data is secure. this was the work, as i say, of a malign actor who

compromised a contractor run network entirely separate from the mod core system. however, as ihave the mod core system. however, as i have said, we cannot at this stage rule out state involvement from elsewhere. this eight point plan outlines the immediate and significant action we're taking to protect the most precious resource our people. and even though this has occurred on a contractor system with a malign actor involved, and we can't rule out that foreign state involvement, i want to apologise to the men and women who are affected by this. it should not have happened. and this eight point plan seeks to ensure that it has put right and that it cannot happen again . i commend cannot happen again. i commend the statement to the house. >> john healey. >> john healey. >> thank you, mr deputy speaker. >> thank you, mr deputy speaker. >> there is deep concern in this house about the grave security breach , and the house will breach, and the house will accept and note the defence

secretary's apology to armed forces personnel . so we welcome forces personnel. so we welcome the defence secretary's statement this afternoon and his multi—point plan and thank him for early sight of it. there will indeed be serious concern in the mod that news of this big data breach was splashed across the media before the defence secretary could set out the facts to parliament. and my overriding concern is for the safety of serving personnel and veterans affected . worried about veterans affected. worried about the risk to them and their families. hearing first about the data being hacked from the media and not from the mod , our media and not from the mod, our military put their own security at risk when they serve on the front line, and the very last thing they should have to worry aboutis thing they should have to worry about is their data security. back home. any such hostile action against our forces is utterly unacceptable , and their utterly unacceptable, and their protection must be the first order priority for the defence

secretary, whether on operations abroad or for their data at home. despite the defence secretary s statement, he still has many serious questions to answer on the breach itself. who held the data that was hacked? when was it discovered ? when when was it discovered? when were ministers told? how was it leaked to the press on the contractor ? defence business contractor? defence business services say shared services connected limited has the mod contract for core payroll and other business services . how other business services. how many contracts does scl or its parent company, sopra steria, have with the mod ? what action have with the mod? what action has been taken by other government departments with similar scl contracts on forces personnel? how many serving personnel? how many serving personnel and veterans have been

hit by the hack? has every serving full timer and reservist been affected , and what support been affected, and what support is being offered on last night's media reports. has a leak inquiry been launched ? mr deputy inquiry been launched? mr deputy speaken inquiry been launched? mr deputy speaker, the mod's data security record is getting worse. while threats against the uk continue to rise, there has been a threefold increase in mod data breaches in the last five years, with 35 separate mod breaches reported to the information commissioner's office and a £350,000 fine last december. subcontractors are well known as the soft underbelly of security , the soft underbelly of security, and this latest hack raises serious questions about how the mod manages its outsourced services . as mr deputy speaker, services. as mr deputy speaker, the media have clearly been briefed that china is behind the hack, but the defence secretary only tells us about a malign

actor. now the government rightly has a very rigorous system before official accusations or attributions are made. but if this data breach is found to be carried out by a hostile state, it would represent a very serious threat to our national security . and to our national security. and the government have been warned. the isc committee confirmed in its china report last year. cyber attacks by hostile states now happen daily, and our wider armed forces community are being targeted. but the committee also found that no cross—government china strategy complete . china strategy complete. inadequate resourcing and defence intelligence , with no defence intelligence, with no systematic record of resources focused on china . mr deputy focused on china. mr deputy speaken focused on china. mr deputy speaker, the defence secretary knows we are united in this house. we will not stand for any

such attacks and with threats increasing such flaws in our cyber security must be fixed. only then will we make britain secure at home and strong abroad i >> -- >> and that was the shadow defence secretary, john healey, reacting to a statement by grant shapps, the defence secretary, a few moments ago in the house of commons regarding this cyber attack, a data breach which impacted 270,000 serving regular, reserve and veteran members of the british armed forces. it was briefed to the press that this was china behind this attack, but grant shapps there notably stayed well shy of getting into that . he instead getting into that. he instead called it a malign foreign influence, stopped short of blaming the chinese . he came out blaming the chinese. he came out with an immediate eight point plan of taking the system

offline, a full inquiry alerting all impacted offering support, a helpline on, welfare advice. but helpline on, welfare advice. but he did stop well shy of actually saying it was the chinese behind this. and john heath , i think this. and john heath, i think with with some justification, said, well, how has this been leaked to the press? this is the this he said, this is the 34th, 35th leak now a three fold increase in mod breaches. he called that a soft underbelly. we have a problem. clearly and john ezedi doesn't think that grant shapps grasped the nettle there or lots to pick apart and discuss . and i'm joined now by discuss. and i'm joined now by the executive director of the henry jackson society, doctor alan mendoza, who joins me now. doctor mendoza, welcome to the show. always a delight to have your company. something of a mystery isn't it, that, it was leaked to the press, briefed to the press ? this was china. this

the press? this was china. this was the chinese communist party and yet grant shapps stopped. well, short. he said it was a malign foreign impact. wouldn't rule out a foreign country, a state endorsed involvement. but stayed shy of actually fingering the chinese . what's your take on the chinese. what's your take on that? >> well, i think you know , the >> well, i think you know, the official line on this is that investigations take a long time before we can reveal who's actually behind things. >> and note, for example , that >> and note, for example, that the 2021 breaches of the electoral commission of mps emails took two years to come to fruition before the government was comfortable to say it was china. but clearly they know it's china because clearly they briefed it was china. so we're fully aware of what it's likely to be and who's likely to be behind it. and therefore , i behind it. and therefore, i think i have some sympathy for john healey's position to say if he's not in this way, shouldn't we being a little bit more circumspect about, you know, getting out there and saying, who's really responsible , even who's really responsible, even if we then caveat that by saying we don't have the final results, but we know whose modus operandi this is, it's you chinese

communist party. >> yeah. because clearly , alan, >> yeah. because clearly, alan, if grant shapps knew that it wasn't the chinese , he would say wasn't the chinese, he would say this wasn't the chinese. these leaks are simply untrue. as you say, most likely this has been briefed to be the chinese. and yet we have this this tap dance, this shadow box of who actually is responsible. my question is quite simple. does this show that britain is toothless to this? we know who's doing it, but we're afraid to point it out in case it ruffles feathers. >> well, i think there's certainly some truth to that. >> and we've seen that softly, softly approach. >> so many times now with the numerous, you know, breaches that china has done, whether it is on hacking, whether it is on industrial espionage, whether it is on any other of the many breaches that china has engaged in, our response has been to say, well , you know, we know say, well, you know, we know you've done a bad thing, but we're going to let it pass, frankly, because we're so worried about the impact of trade and economic , on saying something. >> but that's the wrong approach

to take. right now. china is in an economic slump, a slowdown of historic proportions. they need trade as much, if not more so, than we do right now. the idea that we're going to get punished for calling out chinese bad behaviour is really very sort of old fashioned thinking , very old fashioned thinking, very frightened thinking. and more so were we to come together with a coalition of other countries who have similarly been affected. it's not just us. there are cases every month of countries being hacked by china in various ways. if we all came together and said at this particular point in time, there's enough is enough, i think china would listen . listen. >> yeah, superb. so thanks for giving us your take on this , giving us your take on this, what appears to be another china crisis. but please don't go anywhere because i want to talk to you now about the migrant crisis, because it's emerged that more than 21,000 asylum seekers have now gone missing, completely missing in britain in the last five years alone, home office officials have been unable to locate at least 21,107 foreign nationals who claimed to

be refugees and, even more worryingly , the true figure worryingly, the true figure could be even much, much higher as the information often only covers the five years up to last september. so there's a missing eight months. i'm going back now to doctor alan mendoza for your take on this. it's an astonishing state of affairs. most people watching this wouldn't, wouldn't even be able to get their heads around the fact we can simply lose more than 21,000 people, people who've been refused asylum or their claims have been dismissed. they have no right to be in this country. presumably, they should be deported and they've simply vanished into thin air. >> well, one sense i'm sort of surprised the number is so low . surprised the number is so low. not so high, because what are the methods we're actually using to tracking people? once we've made these decisions, we're not putting them under any surveillance, not putting them under any ability to track them . under any ability to track them. if i was someone who was determined to stay in the country, i'd skip away. wouldn't i? i'd go and say, i've got no monitoring on me. i'll just melt away and see what happens. and so clearly there has been a

problem long in the making. we've you know, we should have understood that people aren't going to play by the rules. they're not going to sit back waiting to be deported. they will take matters into their own hands and try and flee. so the question is, what are we going to do about this going forwards? a how do we find the people who've already disappeared? but b how are we going to prevent future such examples from happening? that clearly needs a much tougher regime once a decision is made to make sure people cannot escape justice, as it were . it were. >> okay, doctor mendoza, let's drill into that a bit more, earlier on on the show, we spoke to hardeep singh bhangal. he's a human rights lawyer and he was astonished that we don't, for example, have dna profiles. and in austria at the moment, alan, in austria at the moment, alan, in austria, they are planning to do exactly that because a huge number of people claiming to have relatives in austria are coming under false pretences. they're often not related at all. so they're planning things like dna databases. we've heard about ankle tags, we've heard about ankle tags, we've heard about monitoring, about id cards

. but of course, every time this is mentioned, alan, we have a conversation about, oh, it's breaching their human rights. but if 22,000 people can simply vanish in a puff of smoke, we have to do something . have to do something. >> higher than that, because we don't actually know the full amount. and look, there are obviously going to be concerns about civil liberties or about human rights, about about any of these things. but the reality is we're not living in the 1950s anymore. we're living in a, you know, kind of age when people want to come to this country illegally, they've got no right to be here. they're going to make up reasons why they're coming. and while we're all in favour of people who are genuinely refugees and need to be housed in that way , we've be housed in that way, we've seen the system being abused and we currently look defenceless in the face of its abuse. so clearly there has to be something done to change that bafis something done to change that basis of how society acts in this way. and we're going to have to accept, i think that in 2024, we are going to require some more surveillance and some more techniques to make sure

that people do not abscond , that people do not abscond, because otherwise, the alternative is to say to people, we're you know, we're sitting ducks. it's open season. once you come here, doesn't matter if you come here, doesn't matter if you can legally stay or not. we're not going to stop you . we're not going to stop you. >> and that's precisely the case.i >> and that's precisely the case. i mean, let's be absolutely clear, alan. these are individuals who've been identified as having no claim, no right to remain in the uk. this is not inhumane. they've been through the system. they failed to meet the criteria. they don't have the right to belong in the united kingdom. cut and dried clear cases. deportation is the next step. then they go walkies and we have this conversation all the time, alan, about the human rights of these people. what about the human rights of britons who have noidea human rights of britons who have no idea who is walking amongst us? what about the human rights of britons who are saying enough is enough, we're paying for this ? >> well, absolutely. and here's the reality . we're saddled with the reality. we're saddled with huge costs, and it's a system that doesn't work. as you've identified and highlighted here.

the story tells us, i think, you know, one very obvious way this could be avoided is to make sure that the moment a judgement is reached, the person is not allowed at liberty. again, they're not at liberty. they've failed in their bid to stay in this country at that point in time, they should be removed, frankly, immediately. and if they're not removed immediately, they're not removed immediately, they should at least be placed in a in a holding zone where they can then be removed from because they've, you know, they've gone through the legal process. we've we've followed their human rights. we've gone through a system which gave them the opportunity to make their case in law. they had professional advice for it, and they were found wanting at that point. there is no more human rights concern as such. it's really a question of can we then fulfil the legal obligations we have to remove people who are not allowed to be here, and that does require, in my view, a very strict and swift system to make sure that happens . sure that happens. >> and many people will be crying in agreement with you, alan. but is that going to happen? we heard last week,

operation victor, 800 enforcement officers, 800 was 22,000 of these minimum plus eight months on top. and that's what we know about those who are actually in the system. there may be many, many more who aren't accounted for or aren't on any database . are we simply on any database. are we simply fighting peashooters with tanks ? fighting peashooters with tanks? >> well, clearly there's a big problem. we've got, you know, multiple thousands who are missing. we don't have that much resource. it seems, going into finding them. that said, look, i'm not a specialist in this area in the sense i don't know how you go about tracking these people. it may well be there are obvious modes that you will take to find to track them down. i mean, what's interesting is that there appears to be some confidence these people will be found. i mean, i'm, i'm less confident, but, you found. i mean, i'm, i'm less confident, but , you know, confident, but, you know, specialists appear to believe that there's confidence there. so i think what we've got to do is look at the remedy being proposed. we've got to look at how it works in the coming few months. and we'll soon know, won't we, if it's been successful or not, because we'll either find those people or we

won't. and if we won't, we'll know we didn't put enough resource in and that something desperately needs to be done to locate those who are missing, and the many who may go missing in the time between that moment and. and now . and. and now. >> fantastic. so, doctor alan mendoza, executive director of the henry jackson society, fabulous to have you on the show .thank fabulous to have you on the show . thank you very much for joining us. now, moving on. the green party is investigating a councillor who shouted allahu akbar as you do, which translates to god is the greatest in arabic after being elected. and the said that palestine had the right to fight back. palestine had the right to fight back . well, moeen ali won the back. well, moeen ali won the gipton and harehills ward in leeds with more than 3000 votes at last thursday's local elections . and let's have elections. and let's have a little listen to the voice of palestine. >> hello, hello . >> hello, hello. >> hello, hello. >> now this comes after labour was investigated for anti—semitism a few years back, and i've lost count of how many tory mps have lost their seats after various misdemeanours , after various misdemeanours, both sexual and financial. now

is it time for a political ombudsman? that's today's topic. and joining me now is a political commentator. stephen carlton—woods stephen, welcome to the show. always a pleasure to the show. always a pleasure to have your company. many, many people, stephen, looking at the state of british politics will be despairing, pulling out their hair. allahu akbar being screamed after an election in leeds, not in gaza, the bradford councillor shouting we will come and get you to anybody who disagrees. and as i've said, so many sexual misdemeanours and scandals going on in politics, many people believe politics is in the gutter. my question to you is do we need an ombudsman, somebody independent outside of parliament, not only looking over parliamentary candidates, but councillors? every elected representative in the land should they be overseen, and if they breach conduct, should they be booted out? >> well, there is actually a system in place at the moment,

similar to what you're saying, there's a standards committee that, meet within councils. >> so if a councillor does something wrong, they can be reported to that, organisation and they can be in hot water over it, but the situation is quite , dire at the moment. we've quite, dire at the moment. we've seen , even other things that seen, even other things that we've had the deputy leader of the manchester city council lose the manchester city council lose the seat to the independent groups that are of similar nature to this , where it's all nature to this, where it's all about, supporting hamas and, freeing palestine is their main thing. nothing to do with local politics. so it makes you wonder, really , how people vote wonder, really, how people vote in these people in all the time , in these people in all the time, and you see that, for just their section, you get a big turnout for for, them, for the independent. but mainly, though , independent. but mainly, though, independent. but mainly, though, in local elections we've seen some really low turnouts . and,

some really low turnouts. and, we're all scratching our heads wondering how this is happening. i would really say it's more important that people go out and vote and stop these, extremists from taking over. >> yeah, stephen, let's just be clear that, supporting palestine and the situation over there isn't the same as supporting hamas. two separate things. they are quite different things. but my point being, you may say that there's a system in place already to report councillors, but what kind of teeth does it have? we've seen so many times where of council , of local where of council, of local authorities, of politicians, of police forces turning a blind eye to problems in case they're embarrassing. we've seen it with grooming gang scandals and now we we've very much, i believe, have a repeat of that situation now around what's happening around palestine , the politics around palestine, the politics of that. how on earth can you scream allah akbar at a green council ? what scream allah akbar at a green council? what on earth does a council election in, in a suburb

of leeds have to do with gaza ? of leeds have to do with gaza? and surely if you're getting on a front foot like that, there needs to be an independent oversee to say we don't need this in british politics, it has no place in british politics. and if parties themselves won't take action, an independent outsider should . outsider should. >> yeah, well, while we're all saying this is an outrage , saying this is an outrage, there's many people supporting this line of, of, of behaviour that's going on. >> and you see this, going to the very top people within the civil service, people within the court systems that upheld things in their favour. if if actions trying to be done, the government have had a very , government have had a very, very, hard task here and the appetite needed to overcome this would take lots of legislation to go through. i agree we could do a, of an ombudsman system with regards to politicians lie—ins, but it's, it's

implementing that there's so many problems with the country at the moment. and every time even like getting rid of, immigrants, like what we've just seen before in the previous, clips , all the obstacles we've clips, all the obstacles we've had to overcome, they're just to get flights off the ground to go to rwanda. so so the government or whoever's going to be looking at this in the future , have got at this in the future, have got all these other organisations that are hell bent on giving these people the power and the say , yeah. say, yeah. >> and of course, just to be clear, that item was about getting people track people down who have been not granted the right to remain because they've been through the system, not getting rid of all immigrants. now. stephen carlton—woods, thanks for joining us now. stephen carlton—woods, thanks forjoining us on the thanks for joining us on the show . always a delight to have show. always a delight to have your insight . now it's time for your insight. now it's time for the latest great british giveaway now and your chance to win the biggest cash prize of the year so far. a whopping £20,000 tax free. imagine what you could do with all that extra cash. well here's how you could win a lot of it. >> it's the biggest cash prize

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welcome back. it's 526. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, later this hour, i get reaction to the news that prince harry won't meet the king while he's back in the uk this week. now the mother of a victim of the manchester arena bombing has begun a 200 mile walk to downing street to demand stronger protections against terrorism in pubuc protections against terrorism in public places. protections against terrorism in public places . figen murray's public places. figen murray's son, martyn hett, was one of 22 people who were killed in may 2017, in gb news, north—west of england . reporter sophie reaper england. reporter sophie reaper has this report . has this report. >> on the 22nd of may 2017, 22 people went to a concert at

manchester arena but never returned home. one of those people was martyn hett, murdered by suicide bomber salman abedi . by suicide bomber salman abedi. >> it's seven years nearly and i still can't go to bed before about 11 ish because i feel so ashamed and guilty as a mum because i was fast asleep in bed when he died and i can't reconcile that . i've got reconcile that. i've got a martin shaped hole in my soul somewhere and that will always be there. >> after the attack, the manchester arena inquiry found serious failings in security on the night, which could have prevented it from happening . as prevented it from happening. as a result, for the past five years, fegan has worked tirelessly to try and improve security at uk venues. >> about 18 months after martin died, we went to a theatre in manchester and there was absolutely no security and that completely floored me. then i looked into it and realised there's no legislation for security at all, and i wanted to

change that. i just want venues and places, public places to have a legal obligation to put security on and keep people safe .thank security on and keep people safe . thank you, thank you. >> this morning, fegan began the walk from the spot where her son lost his life, which will take her all the way to downing street . street. >> a lot of experience at the start. >> mayor of greater manchester andy burnham told her everyone in the country was behind her. >> i just feel on this seventh anniversary, if we get that cross—party commitment, if we get that date, if it is made clear that it will get passed before the general election, thatis before the general election, that is in the end, the best way we can mark that, that seven year milestone and make sure that forever , everyone else will that forever, everyone else will have a greater safety as they as they go out and about with 186 miles to cover , fegan and her miles to cover, fegan and her team will arrive on the seventh anniversary of the attack and until then , she wants as many

until then, she wants as many people to get involved as possible . possible. >> sophie reaper gb news. >> sophie reaper gb news. >> magnificent stuff and good luck to you. fegan, now you've been sending in your views throughout the show. in fact, hundreds of you. and as you probably imagine, the topic of 21,000 missing migrants has really got you hot under the collar. stephen says this the days have gone when britain was safe enough to not bother with tight controls on people . there tight controls on people. there is no nice way of dealing with the problem anymore other than raiding places, tagging people, taking dna and imposing id cards. a strong arm approach there from stephen and antonio as this shock horror. thousands of migrants are missing and this comes as a surprise to the government or indeed to anybody. the conservative are clearly living within a parallel universe . thanks for those universe. thanks for those comments, and please keep them coming in before the end of the show, because there's loads more still to come between now and

6:00, i'll talk about the shocking incident that saw pro—palestinian protesters disrupt a remembrance march at the site of the auschwitz concentration camp. unbelievable but first, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's sam francis. >> very good evening to you. it's just gone 530. let's take a look at the top story this afternoon . the defence secretary afternoon. the defence secretary has stopped short of blaming china for a hack on the ministry of defence, but says the involvement of a foreign state cannot be ruled out. china has strongly denied reports that it was behind the cyber attack, calling the accusations completely fabricated. names and bank details of some army, royal navy and raf personnel as well as some veterans have potentially been compromised. speaking in the house of commons in the last half hour, grant shapps says it shows the world is becoming a more dangerous place for reasons of national security. >> we can't release further

details of the suspected cyber activity behind this incident. however, i can confirm to the house that we do have indications that this was the suspected work of a malign actor and we cannot rule out state involvement. this incident is further proof that the uk is facing rising and evolving threats. >> john swinney says he's over the moon to be voted in as scottish parliament's choice to be the next first minister. he was backed by 64 of his colleagues. his nearest rival, douglas ross, received 31 votes. mr swinney replaces humza yousaf, who says his heart will forever belong to scotland , and forever belong to scotland, and a five month old boy who suffered a cardiac arrest at legoland windsor is in in an alleged incident of child neglect, has died in hospital. a 27 year old woman from essex was arrested at the resort and has since been released on bail. police say they're not seeking

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financial report. >> thank you sam. now we've heard a lot about the impact of low traffic neighbourhoods have had on businesses, and some say that the zones limit vehicle access and reduce the number of customers. well, stan hems is a butcher in birmingham who claims that a ltn has cost his business around £30,000, while stan hems joins me now on gb news and is here to tell us more. stan welcome to the show. so can you explain to us where your shop is and when the ltn was introduced and when the ltn was introduced and how it's impacted you ? and how it's impacted you? >> the ltn was introduced three and a half years ago. >> i've been in kingsway since i was 19. i'm 81 years of age. i'm a butcher and our tray, our footfall has gone down 30. so 30% have gone down. >> and how much money would you say that's cost you, stan? >> oh, a lot of money.

>>— >> oh, a lot of money. >> a lot, probably six grand a week . week. >> six grand a week. okay. and so you've presumably. well, i know you've been having a long running beef. pardon the pun, with the local business improvement district in kings heath. what have you said to them? you've made your you made your case on facts. what do they said they would do? presumably they've ignored you. >> well, no one has done a consultation in three and a half years to ask the business how they're doing . not one person. they're doing. not one person. >> we've got lots of businesses closing. >> they've just put the today . >> they've just put the today. funny you phoned me today. they've just put the new plans out. they're closing all the roads off on the other side, which will make it three and a half more roads closing , three half more roads closing, three and a half times, more roads closing and all the shops are up in arms about it, that there's no traffic being allowed on york road. no traffic being allowed on york road . i don't know how they'll road. i don't know how they'll get the lorries down there and the beer to deliver . york road the beer to deliver. york road is a very good job. shop and

shopping centre, wendy bill from york road, who ran maurice robinson since 1947 with a father and mother. they've closed the shop down the sports shop and a lot of businesses as if they hadn't got long leases. they would just move out. they've told me this. i also chair king's heath business association, representing 190 businesses. so this is the problem we've got now. it's absolutely terrible what they're doing . doing. >> and stan, you clearly believe that these net zero policies, clean air policies, the politicians say that they're for good. you don't agree what do you like to say to them if they're listening, what would you like to be done about these hnsin you like to be done about these ltns in your area? >> well, all the businesses pay a lot of rates and the business is the district was the busiest best district out of birmingham. and anyway, they're all closing . and anyway, they're all closing. so i'd like them to say

reconsider and ask the businesses what they want, not just close these places down. it will be absolutely terrible for all the businesses you've got businesses wanting to move out. i had one phoned me last week. i went to see him. he's got a shop in york road, can't deliver anything. he does electrical repairs, can't carry televisions or anything to his shop. there's nowhere to park . they have to nowhere to park. they have to walk miles to it. they haven't got an ounce of common sense. you've got people. it hasn't even increased the footfall or the cycling. there's no increase in cycling or footfall . it's in cycling or footfall. it's just a matter of people thinking that they can do gooders consultation . that's all we consultation. that's all we want. and the bid's in king's heath. we've got councillors sitting who's who's putting this for forward the plan forward sitting on the bids committee . sitting on the bids committee. and they won't have a vote or a

consultation with any of the businesses. i was refused entry to the business improvement district and i'm a partner with my son in johnston's butchers, king's heath, a partner, he said, no, you're not allowed to come in. i was refused by the chairman. i am still waiting, for some answer. why i was refused when my son on the phone at the other end said to the chairman of the bids, my dad is a partner in the business. i was also carrying two proxy votes, and anybody can carry proxy votes in there. so, you know, and i was disallowed. so should i and i was disallowed. so should l pay and i was disallowed. so should i pay the business improvement district? >> okay, stan hams, we have to leave it there £6,000 a week. stan hems claims he is losing an astonishing impact on a small business. of course, the beating heart of britain. now, regarding the ltn in king's heath, birmingham city council have given us this statement . while given us this statement. while there has been local support for

there has been local support for the scheme, it is recognised that there have been issues with larger vehicles needing to reverse along sections of these residential streets. it proposed new arrangement of one way streets and diagonal modal filters would continue to ensure that through traffic is unable to cut through this area, while enabung to cut through this area, while enabling access to all properties without the need to turn around or reverse. hope you made sense of that . well, made sense of that. well, there's plenty more to bring you in just a moment. but first, there's a new way to get in touch with us here @gbnews. and here's bev turner with all the details. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views . now there's know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a know, we always love to hear your views . now there's a new your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us @gbnews cote d'ivoire . slash @gbnews cote d'ivoire. slash your say by commenting. you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can even talk to me, bev turner or any of the members of the gb news family. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay say

>> welcome back. the time is 542. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. pro—palestinian protesters disrupted a remembrance march to honour the victims of nazi atrocities at the site of the auschwitz concentration camp . concentration camp. demonstrators chanted slogans and displayed palestinian banners and flags reading stop genocide . and some even wore genocide. and some even wore yellow badges in the shape of stars, which appeared to resemble those of the nazi authorities forced jews to wear shorts . after the german shorts. after the german invasion of poland in 1939. an astonishing story. invasion of poland in 1939. an astonishing story . and now we astonishing story. and now we can speak with the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism . gideon. against anti—semitism. gideon. falter. gideon, welcome to the show . i cannot imagine how show. i cannot imagine how appalling this must be as a jewish person. where do you begin? what do you say to this?

>> i mean, martin, you're absolutely right. >> i mean, we are still in living memory of the holocaust, and there would have been. >> and there were holocaust survivors on that march, the march of the living is something that takes place every year on yom hashoah , which is yom hashoah, which is a holocaust memorial day marked by jews around the world. and on that march , you simply walk that march, you simply walk through the death camp, through auschwitz and you say defiantly , auschwitz and you say defiantly, we are still alive. we have not perished . we will continue to perished. we will continue to live even long after the nazi regime is gone. and you remember what took place on that site where so many people were killed as part of the nazi extermination of over 6 million jewish men, women and children, and many others . and for her and many others. and for her protesters to come along and protesters to come along and protest against that, you've got to ask , what were they to ask, what were they protesting against if they

oppose the march of the living, what must they be saying? >> they must be saying one assumes that they have some kind of a problem with the fact that jews are doing this , for the jews are doing this, for the fact that jews have survived and are continuing in this way, and you just wonder what on earth was going through their minds when they not only decided to go to this thing, but they decided to this thing, but they decided to go and start wearing yellow stars and imagine what holocaust survivors were thinking . survivors were thinking. >> having lived long enough to see the site that they were liberated from by allied troops . liberated from by allied troops. finding that now there are people there protesting, almost using the holocaust as a weapon with which to beat jews. it's horrific , absolutely horrific. horrific, absolutely horrific. >> and gideon , i have a comment >> and gideon, i have a comment here from a canadian living in london who attended that march, a jules kaufman who said, it really shows that they're here to continue what hitler set out

to continue what hitler set out to do, that hamas stands on the shoulders of the nazi regime. we will never let that happen, gideon. this is sacred ground, a sacrosanct moment to address the evils of history, to ensure that it never happens again . why, oh it never happens again. why, oh why, oh why would they choose to target something so sensitively? do you think it may be grotesquely deliberate ? it. grotesquely deliberate? it. >> i mean, it can only be deliberate. >> you don't go to auschwitz for any other reason than that . it any other reason than that. it was auschwitz. it was the site of this death camp. and for these people to turn up not only in living memory of the holocaust, but let's not forget, we're only a few months now, since october 7th, when the genocidal hamas terrorists went and committed the worst massacre of jews in living memory since the holocaust. and those people then turned up, these protesters have turned up in order to sort of go the jews on the march. and

i think it's the inevitable conclusion of two things, really . one is that for a for a number of years now, people have been trying to universalise holocaust remembrance. the you may remember jeremy corbyn, tried signing a an early day motion in parliament change holocaust memorial day to genocide memorial day to genocide memorial day to genocide memorial day . there's this memorial day. there's this constant attempt to sort of universalise the holocaust , to universalise the holocaust, to take its lessons, to take it essentially and say it's not just jews, but the holocaust was very much about the obliteration and the annihilation of the jewish people . so that's one jewish people. so that's one thing. the other thing that's happening, of course, is this very deliberate attempt by people in pro—palestinian circles to try to try to say that jews are, in fact, the successors of the nazis, that the israelis are the new nazis, that israel is committing some kind of a genocide. all of this language is very deliberate. it's designed to invert the lessons of the holocaust. and so when we say as a society , the

when we say as a society, the big lesson from the holocaust was never again , how can we say was never again, how can we say that we are learning that lesson when we have not only allowed this sort of universalisation of the holocaust , when we've not the holocaust, when we've not only allowed israel to be equated with nazis, but we now actually have people in the grounds of auschwitz protesting against the march of the living as holocaust survivors marched to remember what happened there . to remember what happened there. it's horrendous . it's horrendous. >> so, yes, gideon falter, the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism, thank you so much for sharing those thoughts with us here on gb news. now, don't go anywhere because up next, we'll be discussing how the king's full program means he won't be able to see prince harry, who's now on his on his visit to the uk and martin daubney on gb news,

welcome back. it's 551. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. prince harry has arrived back in the

uk. hurrah! but he won't meet u.k. hurrah! but he won't meet his father while he's here. well, joining me now to discuss this is a former royal correspondent , this is a former royal correspondent, michael cole, this is a former royal correspondent , michael cole, the correspondent, michael cole, the legend. michael, welcome to the show. so it's the coronation week, and it seems that, harry's got the old royal brush off martin, this is a right royal flea in the ear. >> from the king to his younger son, fifth in line to the throne, prince harry, extraordinary. >> in royal terms, this is big medicine for the king to say. >> well, my diary is too full to see you, son, i mean, that's what the sort of thing you you say to people you don't hardly know. and the king says, we hope. >> i hope to see you sometime in the future. >> well, that's what you say to people you meet on holiday . people you meet on holiday. >> you never want to see again. you say, i'll see you sometime. but that's what's happened. >> but in this world, martin, words have consequences.

>> and the things that prince harry and his lovely wife meghan have been saying over the years have been saying over the years have gone home, not just with the king, but with queen camilla and, kate. princess of wales, who is battling her own cancer. very very bravely. >> and it will come as no surprise is that the popularity of harry and meghan has dropped this week. is this full diary excuse is the genuine thing, or is it simply just doesn't want anything to do with it? it's too difficult. >> well, i think the king is busy . he was >> well, i think the king is busy. he was seeing the, prime minister of fiji today , wasn't he? >> he'll be seeing the prime minister tomorrow. >> and he's having a garden party. but my goodness , this soh. 5011. >> son. >> and there we see him in all his glory has flown 5000 miles for this service at saint paul's cathedral tomorrow the two men will be three and 0.3 miles apart . apart. >> i would have imagined in a normal family, father and son, having not seen each other since february, would get together.

>> but we have to accept what's come out of buckingham palace that the king's diary is too full. well, i'm quite sure it is pretty full, but i think prince harry will have got the message. >> he was never the sharpest sword in the household cavalry, but even he will get the message that he's got the brush off, and, a lot of people will say about time , too, and rightly so. about time, too, and rightly so. >> well, michael cole, you certainly don't seem to be crying into your royal cup of tea this evening. it's always a pleasure to have you on the show . a delight as ever. and i've got time for one quick email before we go. are you all say mike says this on the on the topic of 21,700 missing migrants , mike says this why aren't the people at the home office responsible for apparently losing migrants being sacked ? losing migrants being sacked? and gb news viewer here says we must change the law that grants the right to remain. if you go undetected in the uk for over four years, it is a massive

loophole . okay, thanks for all loophole. okay, thanks for all those comments. keep them coming in throughout the show because of course they do get read out. i've read out a bunch today and that's all from me for now. i'll be back at 3:00 tomorrow, but dewbs& co is up next. of course, that runs six till seven. don't forget to join us from 6 am. tomorrow morning as breakfast with eamonn and isabel, tomorrow morning as breakfast with eamonn and isabel , followed with eamonn and isabel, followed by britain's newsroom at 930, of course, with andrew and bev. and then it's all the drama with pmqs. that's gloria de piero and tom harwood tomorrow, then live at midday , tom harwood and emily at midday, tom harwood and emily with good afternoon britain. of course , my mush will be back on course, my mush will be back on your screens at 3 pm. tomorrow. i'm martin daubney and this has been gb news. thanks for your company. it's always a delight. have a fantastic evening. now your weather and it's alex burkill . burkill. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello again. here's your

latest gb news weather from the met office. whilst there will be a bit of rain, particularly across northwestern scotland this week for many it's looking largely dry. that's because we have high pressure currently to the southwest of us, but this is going to build and dominate the weather across the uk as we go through this week. that being said, there are a few showers around at the moment. most of those will ease as we go through the end of the day, taking us into a pretty dry night. the end of the day, taking us into a pretty dry night . there into a pretty dry night. there will be some clear skies developing, allowing for a few mist and fog patches to develop both inland where we get the clear skies , and also around clear skies, and also around some more coastal parts too. but temperatures aren't going to drop a huge amount, most places staying in low double figures or perhaps high single figures in some areas as we go through wednesday itself. then a bit of rain, then pushing into parts of northwestern scotland, perhaps fringing the far north—west of northern ireland too, otherwise staying dry apart from 1 or 2 showers around and we are going to see some decent bright sunny weather too. it may not be wall to wall blue skies, but most of us will see some sunshine at

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green party counsellor that was elected on, let's face it, quite a gaza ticket has today apologised, though he does basically add that anyone that seems to have an issue with what he said is basically islamophobic. your thoughts on that? and in the first of its kind mass of resorted to a private prosecution for theft after the police basically turned a blind eye. what do you think to this? is it the start of a brand new trend and should it be also? speaking of the police, do you think there should be allowed to wear that thin blue line pat patch on their jackets used to commemorate their fallen officers? because over in the states, that symbol is apparently associated with some less than desirable causes. what do you think to that? also, let me ask you this what on earth is going on when it comes to this chinese data hack? are we tough enough on china or not? and last but not least, should you be fined £1,000 of you, your kids or your grandkids help themselves to some shells or pebbles from the beach?