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a working mother. jen psaki, the last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts right now. tonight, defendant trump is held in contempt again. 's latest penalty and the new threat of jail time from the judge. with no agreement on a cease-fire, israel resumes strikes in southern gaza. is a deal still possible? atop georgia republican says his vote for joe biden. what that could mean in a crucial swing state. good evening once again. i am stephanie ruhle. we are 183 days away from the election, and in a new york city courtroom, judge merchan got tough with donald trump about the gag order in his election interference trial. the judge find him another 1000 bucks and threatened him that he would throw him in joyal if

there were more violations. the day continued with testimony from former trump employees about how the money flowed from donald trump to his former fixer michael cohen. here is my colleague vaughn hillyard with more. >> reporter: tonight, former president trump facing a new threat of jail time at his hush money trial after his 10th violation of the judge's gag order. >> he has taken away my constitutional right to speak. >> reporter: the judge addressing the possibility of putting him behind bars over future violations. the magnitude of such a decision is not lost on me. you are the former president of the united states and possibly the next president as well. adding, smudges i do not want to impose a jail sanction, i will, if necessary and appropriate. >> frankly, our constitution is more important than jail. it's not even close. i'll do that sacrifice any day. >> reporter: the judge finding him an additional $1000 for -- the jury in deep blue manhattan

saying it's 95% democrat. the judge said the former president wrongfully called into question the integrity of the jury. mr. trump has pleaded not guilty to low-level felony charges for allegedly disguising reimbursements to michael cohen for hush money payments to stormy daniels has legal expenses in his company's internal business records. if convicted, mr. trump could face anywhere from four years in prison to just probation. taking the stand, jeffrey, who oversaw the accounting department. her to the prosecution's case of falsifying business records. testifying about invoices, describing the reimbursements as legal expenses saying he was ordered by another trump organization executive to reimburse cohen for the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels. most from trump's personal account from and cross exam he said he had not spoken to mr. trump directly about the

business records. another trump employee, deborah, testifying about the process of signing checks including two cohen which were shown to the jury saying if he did not want to sign it, he did not sign it. it was signed in sharpie and it was black and that's what he uses. >> let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff panel. a staff writer at the atlantic and in smb contributor. political investigation reported for the guardian and this guy has been in the courtroom day in and day out. we are blessed to use a week of former new york prosecutors civil-rights attorney. you go, because you were in the room or the courthouse may have been in the overflow room. what stuck out to you today. when you saw the judge look squarely at donald trump and schooled him like a schoolboy for violating the gag order, what was that like?

>> it's surreal when you see judges school defendants. it was clear from the judge to say if you continue to violate the gag order, we will consider putting you in jail. it couldn't have been said a more clear terms and the look on todd blanche and the defense lawyers for trump, they were not pretty. in terms of the trial, it was significant because the first part of the morning, today we have gone into the testimony that moved the caisson. >> will talk about that in a second. i want to talk about the gag order. charles, the judge looked at trump and said if you do that again, he knows trumble violated again. is it that big of a threat we are facing? >> it is in the reason why is because when you're talking about the clock ticking and donald trump, the estimation is two more weeks. donald trump does not have a

whole lot of leeway he has to walk on. it's important that judge merchan laid it out this way because once you cross that threshold, you do not go back. once you say, now i'm putting you in jail, every other offense pass that is jail or more jail. you do go back to fines. judge merchan in his calculus around how this will land and how disruptive it could be to the proceedings and he is thought to tried to give him as many warnings so once the threshold has been crossed, there's no excuse. >> i warned you. mckay, the judge laid it out. he acknowledged what he called the magnitude of jailing a former possibly future president. what was your reaction when the judge lays it out there. i realize the impact this could have on the election, on the campaign and maybe on himself one day. >> that was the thing that

struck me. i am not a legal expert and i am a political expert and i cover the country. when you look at polls around the trial, they are what you would expect. roughly half the country thinks trump did something illegal and the others does not think he did. have the country said they think it's fair and the other half says it's not. give or take a few points in a breaks along partisan lines. to me the most important number, there was a poll last week, and found that 55% of americans are not following this trial. what could change that? more than anything else, a jail sanction. in some ways, it's kind of remarkable we are in a presidential election year and most of the country is not paying attention to a criminal trial for one of the major nominees. that said, i think that would change and in a lot of

unpredictable ways. the judge was acknowledging that. he understands this would be a seismic event in american political history, and i don't think anybody who tells you they know how that will play out, what the consequences would be, is telling the truth. i don't think any of us know but it would be moment is. i don't think the judge will make decisions based on the politics of this. i think he must be aware that the world is watching. this will be a historic moment if he ends up putting a major party presidential nominee in jail, even if just for a few hours. >> i'm not sure i believe half the country does not believe trump did anything wrong. i think a whole lot of him think he did something wrong and they do not care. charles, what would jail time look like. it could be rikers or this holding cell in the

courtroom, which i've never seen it, but in my mind, it's like the naughty roman church where the crying babies have to go if they cannot behave. >> escalation. he would be put in the back and he would be by himself for a specified amount of time. maybe not a full day. maybe a few hours. that's the type of escalation. i don't know the first time that judge merchan takes the step that is putting him on a d.o.c. bus and sending him to rikers island. i think it's important to know? >> where did he wear a jumpsuit? >> it would depend how long he was there. >> and he would have secret service within. i should not laugh. >> he would have secret service. prosecutors have not asked for that as a penalty because they understand that they themselves could be as two of her recommendation, and that puts them in a difficult position of, do we want to ask for what we would for any other

defendant? do we want to ask you something later? how will that make us look. there's a calculation with that as well. everyone is trying to answer the question which is once we get to the point where jail is involved, what does that mean? i think it starts in the back in that small room where he would sit for a few hours and it would escalate from there with increased amount of time if we get to the point, if we ever get to the point, that he were sent to rikers. >> if you were judge merchan or alvin bragg or alvin bragg's team, would you be afraid if he comes for you if he wins? >> i think the calculation has long since been done. you have to have made that decision and be all in. that your job as a prosecutor. if you bring this case way back before you go in front of the grand jury, you know what the potential implications are, because you are aware of how popular this man is and you are aware of how rapid and insane

his followers are and the extent they will go to to protect this man. >> and what he will do. >> and what he will do to stoke the fears and keep the fire fanned. by the time you brought the indictment, you know what you are up against and you made that decision to be all in. >> let's talk about the testimony. two former trump employees and they were not low-level employees. long time, strategic partners in the small organization. what stuck out? >> jeffrey mcconney for sure. jeffrey mcconney was the x controller at the trump organization. he was on the 26 floor which is where trump has his office a michael cohen once had his office. the kids are on the 25th floor. to give an idea of how one side he is and the whole operation, it's a small family business. it's run by a small family business. it's important to understand

that. he was involved in facilitating the repayments to michael cohen. he ran through two big things. one was explaining the handwriting of allen weisselberg on the bank statement from michael cohen's shell company he used to pay stormy daniels' lawyer. that was interesting. if you only have michael cohen describing the handwriting, you might say you don't know that allen weisselberg's handwriting. >> they are backing it up. >> when mcconney says it, there is a degree of credibility that any on the witness could bring in this case. it kind of shows there is this -- two times for tax. this is fascinating because he is basically saying that these legal expenses were treated as legal expenses.

the prosecutor has elicited from mcconney a key piece of testimony which was have you and your 35 years of service at the trump organization scene is where you have dealt with expenses like this? and he goes no. >> to me, learning about all of that only underscores the criminality of the trump business. donald trump made his political career by saying he is not a politician. he is a real businessman with real business experience, and he could run the country like he did the trump organization. so we should talk about the trump organization because at this point this guy will have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in civil fraud, a verdict from a civil fraud case. we know key witnesses now, michael cohen was a trump organization vp before he spent two years in jail for tax evasion and other crimes. and the former cfo allen weisselberg who was in the trump organization for decades and decades is now in jail for the second time. with all the conduct tied to

what he did working for trump. mckay, is there anything left of the trump business reputation at this point for those out there who say, i'm into him because he's a great business guy? >> yeah, i don't think so. i have to admit i have always been skeptical of hard-core trump supporters who say they support him because they want a president, ceo. i believe there are a lot of people in america who feel that way. i have heard that for decades. >> those are people who supported mitt romney, actual super successful businessman. >> writes. i think what donald trump is actually doing with this trial, because i think you're right, if there is anyone left who is thinking of trump is a great businessman, if they're paying attention, and all the investigations, they will see the kind of a side of trump the

genius businessman is collapsing. what he is doing is setting himself up as a murder. this is what he has always done so well is saying that people who are coming after me are really coming after you. the prosecutors who were hounding me, it's because they want to get to you. you even saw him today and his comments after the trial or the court proceedings, he said i am willing to sacrifice myself for the sake of the constitution. he is acting like he is the man standing between these extremely political, nefarious forces and the prosecution and the american people. that is what the signal he is sending with this posturing around the trial. i do not think anybody could sincerely still believe that he is a genius businessman and that's why they are supporting him. >> posturing is generous. charles, and this mcconney

testimony, he said most of the money used to repay michael cohen came from trump's personal account, not the business. how significant is that? >> extremely. everything we have heard has the ring of michael cohen at the center of everything at donald trump has been separated as much as they can. the defense love that because they would like to posit a situation where they could say, michael cohen acted on his own volition without instruction from donald trump. the significance of that testimony that this came from donald trump's account were donald trump was the one who had signing power and he signed those checks. he wasn't always signing checks. he reviewed things and would send things back, and that makes him invested in connected to the actual crime. we finally got here and it connects them in a way that has not occurred before such very big for the prosecution.

>> he's the guy with the shortest alligator arms in the history of humanity. the fact that he is digging deep in his pocket, i'll go with -- thank you well. he never pays for anything. the fact he was paying out of his personal account? red flag. thank you all for starting us off. i want to check in with the dj. trump media stock, lucky him, it ended just over 49 bucks a share, up over 2.5% to start the week. i have to tell you this because it's a company that does absolutely nothing. there is no value yet the stock is trading at almost 50 bucks. today, they made the announcement that did not hurt the stock. they announced the company fired the firm that was handling their audits. you know why they did that? because the sec just charge the firm of massive fraud and imposed $12 million in fines.

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we are develop -- the story out of the middle east. hamas announced and accepted a cease-fire proposal from egypt. israel said the two parties are far apart. richard engel has those details. >> reporter: in gaza, they are celebrating their salvation after hamas announced it had accepted a sweeping cease-fire. it seems they are celebrating too soon. israel says there's no deal yet. that the terms hamas accepted afar from israel's necessary requirements, and are not the original offer israel had on the table. israel is dispatching a delegation to negotiate. while it's war cabinet is also unanimously approved a targeted operation against hamas in the southern city of rafah. power crew capturing the start this morning. >> there has been a response

from hamas to the hostage deal. we are reviewing that response. >> reporter: while details remain unclear, senior arab negotiator directly involved in the talks tells nbc news that hamas's position is shifted greatly over the past 48 hours. the deal hamas says it accepts would see it free 33 hostages in exchange for roughly 40 days cease-fire followed by further hostage releases and the freeing of more than 1000 palestinian prisoners held in israeli jails. the source notes, with israel and not at the most recent negotiations, hamas agreed to its own terms using its own interpretation of the offer. israel believes 93 hostages captured on october 7 is still alive in gaza, and many of them are being held in rafah. the only remaining city where israel has not yet conducted major ground operations. israel this morning ordered roughly 100,000 palestinians to

evacuate from part of rafah using leaflets to announce that intense counterterrorism operations were about to begin. president biden opposes a full- scale assault on rafah because it's packed with more than 1 million civilians who fled there for their safety. >> for more let's bring in jeremy, former chief of staff at the cia and pentagon a former editor in chief of the jerusalem post. he's a senior fellow with the jewish people policy institute and author of three books on the israeli military. jeremy, walk us through what we need to know. what are besides thinking tonight? >> these have been inconsequential couple of days. israel dropped its demand that more than 40 hostages be release. it said it would be willing to accept 33 hostages including a mix of living hostages and the remains of those weapon killed by hamas. that was a major concession by israel.

the ball was in hamas's corridor we heard that from secretary blinken and from other u.s. officials. it took several days for the head of hamas living in the tunnels to actually give his response. we heard, apparently today, yes, but maybe. not exactly an agreement to his israel's conditions but some since they did want to move forward. israel has responded now with a full-scale invasion of rafah as some media outlets have been reporting but a limited targeted operation on the outskirts of rafah to establish a security corydon to cut off the flow of goods that have been going in and resupplying hamas leaders at the rafah border crossing. they are holding back, israel is, until they understand what hamas's responses to the latest offer. >> what's your reaction to this development. what are people in israel saying? >> people want the hostages back.

the vast majority, or the public to a large extent, wants to prioritize the return of hostages and you get the sense from the government. even though there is the tough talk about the need for an offensive. the question the government is going to deal with it, at what point are they willing to compromise to make a deal with hamas? we saw it in the unilateral announcement by hamas. they want an end to the war in that's something the netanyahu government cannot give. they are willing to say we want to get back to hostages, but only then go into rafah if we decide and team that necessary. we cannot agree to call this an end to the war in its entirety. that's where we will hit a sticking point. for the time being, the government is sending the delegation to cairo to continue negotiations, but we are seeing a limited operation on the ground along with the philadelphia corridor. that's a strip of land between gaza and egypt will be no hamas

still has a series of tunnels that it is used, from what i hear, up until recently to smuggle advanced weaponry from egypt into the gaza strip. this is not just about the military purpose of the operation, but it puts more pressure on hamas and the world to show israel is serious if there's not going to be a deal. >> yaakov, what deal -- what pressure does is put on netanyahu? >> on the one hand, if he is seeing domestically that he is the guy who is scuttling the deal to get back hostages, he would see, unprecedented riots and protests on the streets. we are seeing a trickle of the mostly led by the hostage families themselves. you will see more people pouring out to the streets if it seems he is the one who stopped the deal from happening. on the other hand, if he goes ahead with the deal and it doesn't go into rafah, he is two parties in his coalition

led by the far right to offset if you don't go into rafah, you are -- we are pulling out of the government. then we go to a new election and that's not what he wants. he is down in the polls in his bleeding from the aftermath of the october 7 massacre and the failures a letter that. he has to thread a needle and make a balancing act. on the one hand retains his government, gets back to hostages, ensures the security interest by saying we will go into rafah and operate their leader, not a simple task. >> jeremy explain this. nbc news confirm the united states halted a shipment of offensive weapons to israel. as they are preparing for a ground operation in rafah. officials have said the move does not signal any shift in u.s. policy, but what do you think? >> a lot of the arms shipments have been years in the making. they were orders that were placed by israel many years

ago, and there's a constant flow of aid and weapons a go to our principal ally in the middle east. i think the administration is carefully reviewing how much of these munitions they want to be used in gaza. don't forget, israel is facing a major threat on its northern border from hezbollah and they have his stained 320 munitions from a run two weeks ago which the u.s. and a coalition helped defend. israel is under attack from multiple angles, and the last thing the u.s. wants to do is telegraph to hezbollah and iran that the u.s. is breaking with israel. that would only embolden them and potentially spark a wider war. don't forget, there are five americans still being held hostage in gaza that we believe are alive the two americans that appeared last week in the proof of life videos. it's a major, major imperative of the biden administration to put pressure on egypt, put pressure on catarrh and pressure hamas to release those americans, but this people go

free back to their families. these hostages have been in captivity for more than 200 days in it's time they be reunited with their loved ones. >> before we go, yaakov, striking the targets in eastern rafah, what can we expect after their? >> israel has dropped the leaflets to the people telling them they have to get out of a certain pocket of rafah. they americans have long been arguing to israel, instead of launching a large-scale offensive into rafah, do it in a pinpointed precision strike capacity. it seems that is what israel is doing at the moment. it's not a large-scale offensive that everyone has been waiting for. it is, on the one hand meant to show israel is serious. it's intention is to operate inside of rafah, but it's sending more of a message right now to hamas, the egyptians, the qatar race and also to washington that even despite

all the warnings, and we saw it coming from the uk, france yesterday, president mccrone had a phone call with the prime minister of israel to warn him against the consequences going into rafah. israel is communicating, we are not going to give up on this right to continue to take down hamas. let's remember, there are 50,000 hamas fighters who are still in rafah, two days ago. they fired rockets and mortars in israel killing israeli soldiers. the thought that the threat is gone, that is nowhere the case, and israel has to continue to weaken hamas infrastructure. >> gentlemen, thank you both for helping us. when we return, donald trump's dangerous rhetoric is escalating as some members of his own party is starting to turn on him. how they are rallying others to vote for president biden. vote for democracy over policy.

donald trump is no stranger to dangerous rhetoric. this weekend, he took it to a another level. during his speech, he compared the biden white house to the gestapo police force in germany. the white house is quick to condemn those comments calling a, quote, the appalling rhetoric of fascist. for more let's bring in a veteran journalist and white house editor for political.

he cohost the weekend right here on msnbc. michael, it's not the first time donald trump has used language like this. in some ways, i'm the nazi, you are the nazi. >> it's his form of rejection -- projection. he has heard dashes throwing up back at biden. it's what little boys do on the schoolyard. that's how they play. you framed it right, if i am a nazi, you are a nazi. your mom wears combat boots. all that crazy. there's a level of seriousness too and that what donald trump, i think, is starting to do and we will see here in more this is set up what will ultimately

be the fascist form of american politics that donald trump wants to play with going into the full throated game of the campaign this fall. i think we should be prepared to hear more of this from him. he did this with donors. it will get louder. it will become more forceful and it will be more pointed and directed at biden. people in his administration, as a way to remind his voters exactly what is at stake for them. >> sam, there were big donors there but the right-wing all- stars were not. no matt gaetz, no marjorie taylor greene. these are trump loyalists to like the 10th degree and it's even reported that trump is mad at ntg. what is going on? >> loss over your mama wears combat boots lines.

i was not familiar there was an insult. >> i was not familiar with that one. if he said that in brooklyn, those are the coolest moms out there. >> back to your point. the report that trump is mad at ntg are valid. i'm not going to say this is an effort at -- he is no dummy. he recognizes any sort of chaos within the republican ranks if they were to go through another motion to vacate the speakership which marjorie taylor greene wants. anything like that to remind the chaos is not good for trump. fundamentally, as we know, trump's bottom line is what is good for trump. he wants to have a stable republican party heading into the election season. he hasn't done everything he can to make it happen. he does not want chaos.

he wants the focus to be squarely on biden and to the degree he can make it about that, better for him. >> the combat boots was icing on the cake. it was an unexpected treat you delivered. here is what i wanted you to join us. in an op-ed, the former lieutenant governor which you once were of the state of georgia, geoff duncan said he is voting for joe biden in november and he wants other republicans to join him. he writes his, quote, the gop will never be built until we move on from the trump era. unlike trump, i belong to the gop my entire life. this november, i am voting for a decent person i disagree with on policy over a criminal defendant without a moral compass. now, georgia is a crucial purple state. is duncan a republican with enough influence there to get people to listen?

>> yeah, i believe so. he served well. everything i have been able to gauge. people liked him. he did a good job as lieutenant governor. he is known in the state. former baseball player and athlete. he has sort of a gravitas with voters and people in the state that can be useful in helping to create the appropriate permissions structure for republicans and center-right independent voters who otherwise might mean toward trump because, well, you know, going back to mom, she would be mad at me to fight vote for a democrat. there are efforts underway, i'm involved and others are involved, and i applaud the lieutenant governor, for taking a bold stance in helping to frame and create the permissions structure to say it's okay.

we are facing a very clear choice between a decent man who has his shortcomings, but one of them is not wanting to be a dictator. one is not wanting to create concentration camps in texas. one is not trying to tear up the constitution. and one of them is not blaming everybody else for his failings. the more you were able to create the structure, the more republicans that are out there voicing that opinion that it's okay to do that, the more i think you will see numbers begin to move. in a state like georgia, that will matter, because georgia will be in play for republicans and democrats this november. i applaud the lieutenant governor. welcome him to the ranks of those of us who were going to vote for a decent man as opposed to a wannabe dictator. keep the country from falling further into decline. >> he doesn't talk about who is

going to vote for, he calls out chris sununu and bill barr saying their choice to support trump is dead wrong. why is it that duncan sees the light here and why this does make sense and the other significant republicans, despite trump, dumping on them, even after saying they will vote for him, why are they? >> it's a good question. chris sununu in particular was an interesting case study. he was in new hampshire campaigning for nikki haley, and making a case that trump was pure chaos. it would be irresponsible to bring him back to the white house. and then, you know what? i would still vote for him over biden. i had a chance to press on him. his logic was his biden and the people around biden were more radical than the people trump would surround himself with

which is an unconventional reason to support a candidate. i don't know why he calculated this. he has a future in republican politics, to michael's point, i don't think georgia voters will be geoff duncan is supporting biden so i should too. but he does gives people permission structure. that is what biden does it's okay to break with your party in this instance and vote for biden. >> nikki haley, brian kemp, biden is looking at you. thank you so much for joining. it's a new cycle that will not quit. between the first president to face criminal charges towards around the globe. how journalists are navigating this important moment when the 11th hour continues. ntinues.

all across america, newsrooms are facing the same challenge. how do recover this moment in our country's history when no one has gotten more criticism for its work than the good old "new york times". calling out the paper seems one of the only things the left and the right can agree on. my next gusts at, the top editor to respond to those who say the times is getting it wrong. i want to welcome my friend ben

smith, cofounder and editor of chief in former times media columnist. his book traffic, genius rivalry and the dilution in the billion-dollar mystical viral is out in paperback tomorrow. talk about why it was important right now to speak to the "new york times" top editor? >> it's a moment when particularly, times readers who tend to be democrats and people who are nervous about donald trump getting elected again feel panicked the media somehow is screwing this up and not getting it right. in some people's view covering it with a sense of catastrophe that they feel. it's a moment when the times -- going the opposite direction. what joe kahn told me as he thinks the times went too far in 2020. progressive politics, a sense they were part of an anti-trump movement, and they're trying to regain their independence and pull back.

they are someways running in the opposite direction of their biggest fans. >> right and wrong in both side is him. you asked if an alien were to read the "new york times" today, hopefully they would think i do, word all is the best part. what what they take away from it? >> the question was would an alien think biden is doing a good job as president? he said he thought he would read the president and thought biden would do a good job on foreign-policy. >> that's it. >> that's what he said. >> you asked about ivy league grads. hiring ivy league grads. he gave an answer that was something like, i would want them to know the "new york times" is not a safe space. that was almost a thinly veiled way to say no crybabies here without getting in trouble. >> i think he on the publisher spent the last year trying to make that point strongly.

kind of in coded language, thumb in the eye to some people and a sense that the times does not buy the generation of politics. to some degree, this is kind of like gen x is re-taking control of this institution. >> put "new york times" aside. how difficult is it for everyone to cover this moment in time when donald trump first came on the scene, we were debt amount -- ready for the amount of lies that came out. we are desensitized to them. >> there is a question of how much, what can the media do? people are desperate for the "new york times", cable news to turn the ship around. i think there was a sense in the beginning of trump of people who hated him and feared him the people figured out. pack check the lies. if people could see through what was happening, they would turn it around.

they did not like him. there is now a recognition, people really like him. people know who he is and voting for him. i think there's a limit to the notion that the "new york times" is going to change the outcome of the election. >> it's not up to any media outlet but it is up to us to cover the truth and tell the truth every day. >> yeah, but the thing joe kahn is wrestling with his at some point if you see yourself as trying to stop donald trump or trying to save democracy, do you want of compromising the journalistic values that are baked into your role in a democracy? that's what he feels he is wrestling with. >> i think covering the truth is covering the truth and you should not worry whether donald trump gets his feelings hurt or yells at you. that's my thought. >> people are more upset when joe biden gets his feelings hurt. >> people are more upset when joe biden gets his feelings are.

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commencement canceled. columbia university became the latest school to cancel its main commencement ceremony. the news coming after weeks of pro-palestinian protest on their campus. the decision was made the security risk was too high. the university wide commencement ceremony will be replaced by smaller scale school-based celebrations. a serious case of dij@ vu for college seniors who just a few years ago had high school graduations canceled or scaled

down because of covid. columbia senior alexis had this to say about her class of 2024. >> i think will be remembered as an interesting class at columbia. >> that's for sure. >> we came in a hard time and left in a hard time. hopefully, this has made us more thoughtful and empathetic. i'm hopeful we can do great things in the world after all of this. >> more thoughtful and empathetic people doing great things in the world? sounds like a good thing to me. congratulations on your congratulate -- graduation. >> i wish you a good night. from all the colleagues across the network of nbc news, have a great night. t.