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hello and welcome to cross stock. were all things are considered. i'm peter levelland, french president, emmanuel. the ground says he's advocating strategic ambiguity when it comes to ukraine. this includes funding western military personnel to fight for kids. this is not strategic ambiguity, but rather strategic confusion. the cross section ukraine, i'm joined by my guess over desires in geneva. he is an author and former un independent expert on international order in brussels. we turn to appear emmanuel to a month. he is a lecturer at leon university. and in niece we crossed to alex become well rich. he is a veteran reporter and foreign affairs analyst. a gentleman comstock rose in effect . that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. i'll let me go to you 1st and nice because you're in france, so nice. so i started out with the french president here. he says he's advocating

a form of strategic ambiguity. and then he says under the conditions in which he will send troops, his troops, they told troop, somebody's troops, i don't know of. and those conditions, are it kids lines break or they a request is made, prized zalinski. so it, i don't see that is m b and, and beauty. i find it confusing and certainly very dangerous. go ahead, alex, find the beauty, right. it's one of 2 things. either you don't know what you're talking about. really funny because you see like it's, it's, it's that simple going along the lines. you can say he's going to send troops and if libraries or if you create, makes a request. so i think you create would have already made that requested that i had a chance to meet and request these me. these are, you'll find the sky ideas. and i felt like little napoleon here, he's, he's pushing out all these ideas to, to need while they don't really not even bathroom on it. you talk any st politician . nobody wants to go until you create efficiently. now the other side of that coin is, we know that since 2014, they couldn't use the americans, the french, the british,

everybody sit on the ground in ukraine officially. so what does this make of what the process i think what makes a big difference actually when you're looking at the maddox for your face, when you say you're basically on the ground. well, that takes place of a level and that's what people are sick and tired. we need to stop this type of rhetoric. we should be pulling back. we know what the situation is on the ground. wines have been broken time and time again because you created a body off, their backing off, their mind is being broken very quickly and solidly in the past few months. so why would background say this pastor, i mean you have germany, which is the economic engine of europe. and then you have france, which is the most hardcore military, let's say the troops or existence or the military gear in europe. they, they are trucks. we know that about france, but that does not mean that you shouldn't be rattling that. so. ready it as much as like around one you'd, i hope that the president, she told them that they are to about the call to actually run these days. because i

need to sometimes how the adults in the room and we know when macro met with them. we all know who looks like the adult in the room. so let's pull back, let's start playing these uh, you know, to slow your games with one another. let's get some solution. yeah, i agree. i offered, you know, the but if you look at the, the, the predicate of the crown statements and he's got his all over the place. he actually was very conciliatory in the beginning of all of this. now he just wants to be the pocket. uh, uh, in nato. um, but you know, the, the, the way, the conditions that he said, you know, if the lines break and the silence he makes the call, doesn't that tell you that the ukraine is losing and maybe they should try a different strategy. alfred as well obviously a plan is losing and they know what they're putting themselves on under pressure. and this makes me think of another price. napoleon,

i fully understood who did not stop provoking the impressions and his arrogance. uh, watched them eventually just to say face to declare war on prussia, which he lost in 6 months now. um, we don't ones that we have no clear states that can destroy not only themselves but the rest of humanity. so you need to break that gridlock, you would need to break the pretest. you need to accept the fact that the whether we like it or not, we live on only one land and we cannot afford continue with escalation. what is not only mat crohn whose mad it is, joe biden, and anthony blankets and all of shots, and his foreign minister, and recei. uh, so like this for minutes or um, uh,

david camera on there. oh. using very belligerent rhetoric. well, i mean, okay, now, now that you brought up a camera on, i'll go to appear menu. well, i mean, he very, um, uh, loosely said, you know, that ukraine can use whatever british weapons they want and wherever they want, even against russia, i brush you a proper. and then the, the, the, the response to that is that the russians are saying, well, they will respond to any use of weapons that use against rush are used by the ukrainians. if it's use in ukraine or even beyond ukraine. now that is getting serious business here. go ahead peer emanuel. yes. that your looks like and not chief of for our western states and we tried so. so trying to take the lead, know of the and not cheap for underlying got to are you create

a new will be the winnings along. russia should lose football. and this is not the up thing on the grounds. so regarding the public opinion or in the very lies there being a doctor misinterpreting re so crises from the beginning paper, notice they understand more, more about or or if it's not, the less fate. and the imaging mccormick, overall wisdom, the just been, don't know what to do more to, to steal up your us credit or andrew are in the way the filed is to increase or the, your ok, she's not chief like crew putting troops on the wrong, the beating the size or hitching your territory of russia, or vote from the french, fun of you, your good or so these are in town or the debate in france. we'd be

a mixed and said you have been part of an approaching wherever the push the car brought to be money written by cool is very, it is gonna lose the butter because or how somebody on this renada these main or position be for you still by the on nothing look than, oh is no but dollar dollars votes expected from the bought to you have made money very much. okay. so the money and my co liked great falsities, not cheap of being very strongly international. they don't pay very many. well, let me ask the question, do young uh french soldiers want to go fight in ukraine? apparently they're already there. some of them. i mean, i, it would be the, the, the general staff of france will allow them across to make that decision. i mean, or even the people make a decision here the same, this the stikes, the mistakes are so high for someone pastoring. yes, that's right. of each center was because,

or it looks like your use narrative is increasing and the rising mistakes on in the end. we don't know because to look pretty border or imaging about home might to be your feel obliged to do something to do. it was in to really troops officially. we don't know, but or many general are seen for us. experts say she's, she's, she's, are, you will be a disaster or because for us as not because i really teach with strategic, i'm big. you cheat your need, the your sure military company beatitude behind on for us as is not ready for i entered city war and this is why it is so denture was renewal, but we also already some instruct jobs on the grounds and of it tried to hide this fact, and the question is, would it become office charge with troops on the bronze and the, even though we've been minimum reverse of troops or each would be a disaster un, under most a french deeper does that really. but the main part of the card parties of position

does that really? but, but it would be smart tv student going on a think on to the end of for you pay that extra estimate maybe. well, i mean, you know, is it, let me go to alex back and needs it, or it's pretty pathetic if you're doing this kind of calculation based on europe and elections that the stakes are much higher then these electrons coming up here. you know the problem, alex here is that the chrome keeps saying russia should not be allowed to win. is that a strategy? and what about ukraine? go ahead. no. i mean that that's a big question. and what are the say the rest of wants to take over? all of you create that has never been the, the, the idea. if anything, the 1st move is a key was to do the exact same thing that the americans did announce the cool governments. and basically put somebody, the charts with a little bit more common sense of the people that are running the show at the top 5 for russian to take over. you crazy. again, that, that's not a strategic value to reference goals of all the, to the hand. they're holding the lance, the russian speakers with their that lost their rights to speak. their language ross bought their rights to teach their, their kids,

russian. the was the rights to how they're signed up in russian. i mean, these are, these are things that we see happen around the world when you are either ethnic cleansing or you're pushing people out of an area. so what russia did was defending against people of people that could identify themselves as russia does rush. i have an a, a, basically some sort of idea of going to the very end of your credit of inquiry about missiles pointing out at your brushing missiles. don't have to go up to the border of the youtube to hit their target. just like western business don't have to go up to the board or resume, but for some reason they thought it would be a good idea to expand the needle, you credit, which is the biggest level of land next to russia all the way up to the border and we all know, i think we all know that we're sitting here and the people that are watching this. we know how this started. we know that there were negotiations on the table that this never had to happen. and they all came from the west. the us and friends, and in the have, you know, people have been talking more forever. obviously the you went of see all of this is

the 99 is, is money. that's the bottom line. we have special interest groups, the united states. and beyond that, we're making a lot of cash with this. and at the same time, a lot of people are dying and they don't have to send americans in when they can use you could use as content bought or in those course abilities are going through this for absolutely no reason this can't stop. well, alex, so they can say to you, before i say with you before we go to the break here, what happens if french troops start dying? what is background going to do then? well, they say that there's a written friction mercenaries of what? well, the power in lead time, they say, is already there, they say the forwarding legion's already there. the form is ever again j. c. up to the canadian aspects of horses or wherever they are in 2014. and i'm sure they're, they're there to, to some degree right now just like probably alrighty. i'm still going to have to jump in here. we're going to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion about you can stay with our team,

the the, what is part of the, the employee would post that isn't the defense you of us entered in the word? or is it something deeper, more complex might be present? good. let's stop without pieces. let's go products. welcome back to the prospect where all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. true mind you were discussing. you create the . okay, let's go back to l for it in geneva. which is just for every action there is an

equal reaction in the reaction build this loose rhetoric that we have heard of, particularly over the last few new cycles or rushes decided to a start exercise is a, a new killer drills for them. cooper as a precaution because of the very provocative language coming out of western capital's irresponsible language. i would say, i think we would all agree, but say there is a reaction and this is an escalation. don't western leaders understand that this is a reaction to their loose rhetoric? alfred. i know they do not want to understand. i mean, they live in their power level world, their power and reality, and the public. the masses are subject to re land plus brain washing. i mean, and it's not only new york times, washington post, and then frank without divine and so i don't even hear it. switzerland. you re nonsense in there? no,

i have to over to the title and organizations like mine. i'm in the dba. international piece research institute, the get rate, we have pulled out a blueprint for peas and ukraine. we have sent it to the are all ca for the whole in burn. and of course, you know that we in switzerland. i was was, was that and we are going to have uh in may and do this so called peace conference. i said brother getting stuck on lakeland south now they are going to be a lot of blueprints for piece the 10 point plan off. uh sure. landscape is delusional. absolutely. uh, disconnected, uh, from reality. but the truck point point uh, plan of the chinese is good. the 10 point blind. all the africans is good. uh,

the international progress organization has put off a very good plan. also, both frances had put out a plan, so uh there are ideas out there and my hope is that if enough states participate, obviously russia is not going to participate. that's clear. but uh, if uh, say the presence of china and india and south africa and brazil and mexico etc, might lead to the conference to discard the 10 point applying of isolated scale. it's totally unrealistic. i start to look for possibilities of a compromise. well, it is, it's interesting now for that, you mentioned a number of the countries around the world, the energy individual, the pope, in organizations that have a blueprint to start the process of ending this complex here. i'm going to go to appear menu. all right. now, um, but no western leader does that no western lead,

no one in nato. does that and putting into nausea, right. hang on, hang on, hang on, i'm putting. so now you ration, he said russia remains open to dialogue and it's up to the other side to decide how to move forward. it appears the menu. well, i mean, where is the, the, the piece plan from the biden. people from cameron from sergeant schultz. where is it? they never use that language of, of ending this conflict and maintaining a security for all players. they never talk that language. go ahead in brussels. yeah. so unfortunately for extinction, european member states of natal. i'm not sure where the silver ran anymore. as we speak or are they your i think they this feeling more or while you are g 2 up to you are awesome. or why are to be 0 authentic system and with a run? can we'd be nate to lunch with an independent voters. and this is like, you're the, you're

a pencil competing to be the best artist of washington. and you're trying to, oh, so at the same time, true she to, of, of, back to you in case of for trump will be elected because they seem to the united states really less um, less it'd be present in europe enough. s. but that's the same time, very your, the photo, the main, your part of the car objectives of, of washington. and it's likely we want to find a nation to be sure or a, it's a money of washington in europe and to, to, to found available own leadership weaving, or vis systemic or the west on the dominus, we've out to try to find any, your end of this conflict between visual here menu. well i, i don't want to, i don't want to be to, um, um, insulting here, but is there any leadership in europe at all?

i mean, you know, you see this background. he is, he's is channeling his inner to gall. he can't find it. cameron is no churchill. i mean, where is leadership in europe? i mean, they're all replaced. well, you could take the prime minister from finland and put them in italy. it wouldn't. no one would notice. go ahead go. exactly. oh, because or the product you kind of trust easily are afraid. very, your low quality to be frank. those seems the departure of the board and for us on more more use bins. seeing prison on the front, small more lines on the i would say are under sex on the water, we go to bed every or independent voice and or image even more. oh, sure doesn't the experience of the read crises of law for instruction on whether last president with experience in war and or they use it. they don't understand

this new merchant put on war because they come from in the ideal g. carter butler, a francis should do it takes the lead was your project. but the v e u is dependent on a tool and west of the maintenance and the the can be done on the stand up to position them serve in this new emergency. put out well emerging, we're actually you is losing power on the left side only. uh, and hardwood cvt. close the speaking of the aggressive out of the weight. we have the polish official them wanting to host the american nucular missiles on their soil. i mean, what country in the world is we don't we want, we want to be a target for in a new killer war i, i just, i can't understand that whatsoever. why would you want to do that? unless you want to just curry favor, you want to, you want it, you're giving a nod to washington. you. where are you?

where are your guys in europe to get differential get the germans. poland will stand with the, i mean, this is insanity red and the russians are not going to react to it. really go ahead and why don't we need to talk, suppose people, instead of the post politicians withdrawal, obviously. but i don't think the, if he talked anybody that's false anywhere here. you're of a big book. oh, you're very different story about their feelings to what's happened to ukraine. they're, they're still in some sense in the he, you added your but if you look at the end of the line, they're looking at the hungary, if you're looking into carissa, you listen to some of their politicians. these are people that have seen it, especially the creations i get outside of the utah the serve use you know, they, there's this whole. ready mythology, that serbia somehow attached to, to rush to like to buy them delicate court. it's, it's not there. there's people that are pro and anti rush and serbia as well as increases. but these are countries that see war, they know what it's about the they're politicians that are now leading. ready stations know exactly what happens and they know that it's, it's something to be avoided, go little bit north, the hungry that you just got

a politician there, a man running the show that seems out a lot more common sense that when you start from the west, well, alford, it seems to me with all this loose and dangerous rhetoric coming out of western capital's out of nato land here, their primary objective is to keep it going, in lieu of doing something out, they don't know what to do. so what, what's the option? keep it going until the last ukrainian is gone. alfred. as well as going to be back when the last 2 great end is gone. because what do you do at that particular point? i mean, sooner or later, you have to accept that this failed the same as a us incursions in vietnam, failed. same as that your was incursion in afghanistan failed the yours, does it very easily, just turns the page. nothing ever happened. we forget it. we leave a mess behind, but the europeans, they are in a very difficult position. there are intelligent people liked to meet to the fox,

who have uh said, very intelligent things you have in german. a guy falls on shore and blog, and several older politicians, but they're not in power. there is a total disconnect between the elite, between our so called democratically elected leaders, and the people as the masses of the people in spain or friends, or nearly they don't want war. nobody wants more, but their leaders are making money. their leaders are probably exec in the service of washington, or wait one day historian, full pallets, or if you're with lawyers, that can explain that to us today would be useful. but uh, we are just postponing uh, the moment of fruits. and i'm very concerned about miscalculations at

that time. when your credit has really been defeated. what they're yeah. well, it's interesting, perry, manual i, i, i've often said on this program. you know, you, you might, you often hear the phrase, future historians will explain to us how we got here, but i don't think we really need his story in the future. we're going to need psychologist what was wrong with these decision makers. why did they make the decisions the way they did? they're making decisions against their own invested interest, their own people's interest at their a security. because at the end of the day, for the russians, this is all about security and know your opinion leader is talking about security. it's amazing to me. go ahead, parent manuel. yes, it's we remember. let's remember, always fame was book the sleep woke up from christopher cock call. we arrive, oh, the 1st world war is tots. each and do each countries a different interest to be before it will be a little kind of war on venue. we came to with 1st of all because we were

miscalculations or a lot of properties on the from all sides. they were lying in the newspapers to what people are. that's no, actually the people are, they want to find the right information. we are to not keep sides, so need to and that's yukon and do mobile or people for example, for us very read the more more i tell not cheap p expos, whichever tools to what people are. and that's why the elections he's going to be already. it'd be good the surprise or, and also, or many military expos, actually would be lying on tv, on the rich situation because they've been paid to say that, that they don't know what to do. they don't know what to say anymore because what research is not happening and are very, very find only a growth cvt on the well large. and we're going to say that we're going to end the program on the same. you know that we started it. this is all strategic confusion

and we're all going to pay dearly for gentleman that's all the time we have a one, a think my guessing nice brussels and engineers. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time and remember across the rules, the

the, [000:00:00;00] the, in previous to us of duty, i often heard the phrase on tennessee is the god of war. soldiers were pieces and is often seen on military chaperones. i was stuck in my head. what did they mean really? i was wondering what the soldiers are like, what will they do and how they handle that powerful weapons that go down. yeah. there. yeah,