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they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former white house staffer, hope hicks and sarah sanders, about an extension of mcdougal's hush money contract on a call with the white house. what do you think the jury took from all of that? >> well, i think that the jury can very easily take the fact that this was an organized scheme. this wasn't just the national enquirer, for example, acting on its own, buying stories that they just didn't want published in competitive -- in competitor's news publications, they were doing this for the purpose, for donald trump, to give him a benefit, a presidential benefit, a campaign benefit that. is
they tried with his -- the fact that david pecker himself entered into a non pros. cushion agreement, but that doesn't mean that he's lying on the stand. it seems to be very credible. >> now, pecker also detailed making a payout to former playmate karen mcdougal to silence her account of an alleged affair with trump. yesterday trump's longtime assistant said that information for both mcdougal and stormy daniels were in trump's contact list, and pecker testified that he spoke with former...
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. >> but the bulk of this week's testimony came from david pecker. >> that's the former publisher of the national enquirer, who described how his publications suppress negative stories about trump as he was running for the presidency in 2016. john dean served as white house counsel during the nixon administration, and he joins us now john, always lovely to see you. thanks for coming on on this saturday. i'm curious, just first of all, what you've taken away from this first week where do you don't win or lose a case on on a week? you actually could lose it if you fumbled too badly, but this case has shown this prosecuting team knows what they're doing. they're telling you a story they've said an overview. they've sort of laid the basis of the broad conspiracy phoe to influence the election. and they're now getting down into some of the details for the jury. so it's just a stage setter at this point, pecker was a good witness the publisher of the national enquirer and it's been an attention grabbing week for the jury and the public and it's a case that likely is largely going to hinge
. >> but the bulk of this week's testimony came from david pecker. >> that's the former publisher of the national enquirer, who described how his publications suppress negative stories about trump as he was running for the presidency in 2016. john dean served as white house counsel during the nixon administration, and he joins us now john, always lovely to see you. thanks for coming on on this saturday. i'm curious, just first of all, what you've taken away from this first week...
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on that key issue of the purpose of the payments, the prosecution was able to get in through david pecker that this was about the campaign, not protecting trump's family how can trump get into evidence? his side of that unless he testifies good morning. and then say it's a privilege to be ali, sir, i'm a fan from a lot day that on television so you want to know the easy way, the easy way is at the end of people's case, donald trump takes the stand and he looks at the jury with the first question was of course, i didn't want bonnie to know about this. of course i didn't want my kids to know about this yeah. was there a part of it that i was running for president? >> yeah. >> but i didn't think i need these problems at home. it's enough of a headache to run for president united states. i don't need my wife hit me over the head with a bat. that's the easiest way to do it now tuesday this week, the judge made some rulings we call a new york's sandoval rulings, which is what the government or the people i can ask him, the prosecutors and asked him if he testified. and for a for a defendant who
on that key issue of the purpose of the payments, the prosecution was able to get in through david pecker that this was about the campaign, not protecting trump's family how can trump get into evidence? his side of that unless he testifies good morning. and then say it's a privilege to be ali, sir, i'm a fan from a lot day that on television so you want to know the easy way, the easy way is at the end of people's case, donald trump takes the stand and he looks at the jury with the first...
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pecker testified, they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's opponents. pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and hillary clinton prior to the 20 trump tower meeting we're in agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two additional witnesses. >> the first was trump's long time assistants, rhona, let me add to call split's rhona graff was a fixture in trump's office for decades. >> she testified how before trump became president, she was his gatekeeper keeping close track of his contacts, emails, phone calls, and meetings. she told the jury it was a very stimulating exciting fascinating place to be there is no court on monday, so on tuesday they'll likely wrap up with michael cohen's a banker, and then it's not clear who the next big witness will be. they have not said a publicly. >> we're also waiting earned for the j
pecker testified, they also tried to show how pecker had other reasons beyond just helping trump win the white house for running negative stories about trump's opponents. pecker testified that his magazine ran stories about bill and hillary clinton prior to the 20 trump tower meeting we're in agreement to help trump was allegedly breached running those stories was beneficial to ami pecker testified after his testimony wrapped up, prosecutors used the last few hours of the de to call two...
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david pecker may have done. to they're trying to attribute david's packers knowledgeinance of campaign finance violations to donald trump. there shouldn' vdonaldt been a e instruction right then and there by the court there tht cannot assume that because david pecker knew something that donal that d trump knew its but this is this is the kind of case that an inexperienced political operative is trying ae in manhattan. and let me just say one more thing. thisin m gag order. the gag order was to make sureti that the president did not make or direct others to make o a public statement. when donald trump repeats untruths. i so so what other people have said he is not makinnot makig oe directing them to make public statements. and that's why he is not h holding him in contempt yet because it is so written. these people are so incensed, so full of hatl of hate that tho anything to keep this man down. and ye anyt he goes outside, he talks to construction workers, he goes to a bodega, they cheer him. he goes to kentucky
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witness, david pecker, largely stood his ground despite trump's legal team attempting to undermine his testimony by claiming the deals to bury stories like karen mcdougal and stormy daniels were standard operating procedure. the second witness, donald trump's former executive assistant, monograph, provided testimony that she entered karen mcdougal's and stormy daniels contact information to the trump organization database. third, we had gary ferro, former manager at first republic bank, which prosecutors say michael: used to obtain a $130,000 home equity loan which michael cohen later funneled to stormy daniels through a shell company. friday, he authenticated bank records which prosecutors showed to jurors. that testimony will continue in trial resumes tuesday morning. prosecutors are using his testimony to authenticate documents related to the transaction. that testimony continues when the trial resumes tuesday morning. judge merchan announced a gag order hearing will take place thursday, to hear new arguments about all of the alleged violations that donald trump has committed this w
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let's go back to the idea of david pecker. the defense team, the trump team was trying to make this come across as standard. this catch and kill idea is standard, happens to a lot of people. and pecker was saying this was actually in furtherance of something more serious. this wasn't the typical catch a story and kill it. there are probably reasons why you would take on a story, pay somebody for it and kill it, but pecker said the unfinished part and this was in furtherance of what donald trump was trying to achieve. >> absolutely and that came across on redirect examination. what happened was the defense attorney has presented what one would call the casablanca defense. there is gambling. ami does this over and over again, that they by people stories. not unusual. in the prosecutor on redirect honed in on the differences. that there has never, even though they have, ami has quashed stories of celebrities and even political figures in the past, they have never been the eyes and ears of a presidential campaign. they have never
let's go back to the idea of david pecker. the defense team, the trump team was trying to make this come across as standard. this catch and kill idea is standard, happens to a lot of people. and pecker was saying this was actually in furtherance of something more serious. this wasn't the typical catch a story and kill it. there are probably reasons why you would take on a story, pay somebody for it and kill it, but pecker said the unfinished part and this was in furtherance of what donald trump...
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>> the testimony of david pecker was fascinating. mine, you know, i lived in and worked in new york for 16 years. i work a at the new york daily news. the "new york post" was a competitor. so i know this world. so david peck sore not -- the is not foreign to me. what he's talk talking -- talk about is not foreign to me. but for the public to hear what's gone won that kind of tabloid newspaper is fascinate. let's not forget we're talk about a former president who is in court over particular hush money payment who is -- has been found liable for fraud and sexual assault who couldn't be in washington for the immunity hearing from when he was president this. guy is going spend -- has been spending more time in court than on the campaign trail to run for re-election. i think what makes this week and the case so fascinating is that we're watching this guy be held accountable for at least a sliver of what he's -- allegedly done. >> and meanwhile in the new york case has now violated the gag order a total of 15 times and count. >> and counti
>> the testimony of david pecker was fascinating. mine, you know, i lived in and worked in new york for 16 years. i work a at the new york daily news. the "new york post" was a competitor. so i know this world. so david peck sore not -- the is not foreign to me. what he's talk talking -- talk about is not foreign to me. but for the public to hear what's gone won that kind of tabloid newspaper is fascinate. let's not forget we're talk about a former president who is in court over...
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so, david pecker testified. he consulted with an election attorney, a special attorney who does election law. and then he ran the karen mcdougal agreement by his own company's general counsel, their top lawyer. now, both of those are privileged conversations between attorney and client so david pecker didn't go into details. but, a prosecutor asked him based on that conversation, did you come to the decision you no longer wanted to be reimbursed for the money that ami had laid out to acquire karen mcdougal's lifetime rate ? david pecker responded, "yes, that is correct." "i called michael cohen, i said the agreement, the assignment deal is off. i'm not going forward. it is a bad idea. i want you to rip up the agreement. " in other words, david pecker had a brush with this in the past, campaign finance law and how it is located in a catch and kill scheme for a candidate, thought about them doing the same thing here, had a talk with his lawyer, decided receiving the money for the express purpose of paying off trum
so, david pecker testified. he consulted with an election attorney, a special attorney who does election law. and then he ran the karen mcdougal agreement by his own company's general counsel, their top lawyer. now, both of those are privileged conversations between attorney and client so david pecker didn't go into details. but, a prosecutor asked him based on that conversation, did you come to the decision you no longer wanted to be reimbursed for the money that ami had laid out to acquire...
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helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all together. s
helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so...
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and after the election, pecker told the jury trump thanked him. on cross examination, trump's lawyer, susan necheles, suggested stormy daniels visited trump tower because she was being considered for a role on the apprentice. graff said there was office chatter about that, adding "i vaguely recall hearing trump say that daniels may be one of the interesting people who could be on the show." but no ambiguity on one point, when trump's lawyer asked graff if she wanted to be there in court, her one word answer, "no." and as she left the stand, donald trump rose up out of his chair to greet her, whispering some words and extending his hand. >> reporter: the first week of testimony ended with a banter of testimony. the jury heard the granular details about the shell company, michael cohen used to pay stormy daniels her hush money. remember, prosecutors have to prove that when trump paid cohen back, he falsified business
and after the election, pecker told the jury trump thanked him. on cross examination, trump's lawyer, susan necheles, suggested stormy daniels visited trump tower because she was being considered for a role on the apprentice. graff said there was office chatter about that, adding "i vaguely recall hearing trump say that daniels may be one of the interesting people who could be on the show." but no ambiguity on one point, when trump's lawyer asked graff if she wanted to be there in...
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pecker says he now believes he violated federal election law while suppressing macdougall's story. trump's long-time executive ronna graph also took the stand today describing the former president as a formal and respectable boss for 34 years. maintained contacts including those of mcdo you go and adult film actress stormy daniels. graph vaguely testified she remembered see daniels at the trump tower before the election. court is not in session on monday, so the trial will resume on tuesday of next week. but, before that, former president donald trump will be headed back to florida to celebrate former first lady melania trump's birthday. mike? >> mike: nate foy live in new york city. nate, thank you very much. um stocks were you present. the dow gained 154, the s&p 500 finished ahead 52. nasdaq surged 318. for the week dow up two thirds of a percentage point. the s&p 500 gained two and two thirds. nasdaq jumped four and a quarter. house republicans going after fax -- forming teams toe address the impact of losing those breaks. here is fox business correspondent grady trimble. >> at
pecker says he now believes he violated federal election law while suppressing macdougall's story. trump's long-time executive ronna graph also took the stand today describing the former president as a formal and respectable boss for 34 years. maintained contacts including those of mcdo you go and adult film actress stormy daniels. graph vaguely testified she remembered see daniels at the trump tower before the election. court is not in session on monday, so the trial will resume on tuesday of...
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david pecker is not foreign to me. what he's talking about is not foreign to me, but i think for the larger public, to hear what really goes on, particularly with that kind of tabloid newspaper i think is fascinating. also, let's not forget, we are talking about a former president who is in court over hush-money payments, who has been found liable for fraud and for sexual assault, who could it be in washington for the immunity hearing from when he was president. this guy is going to -- has been spending more time in court than on the campaign trail to run for reelection. i think what makes this week and this case so fascinating is that we are watching this guy be held accountable for at least a sliver of what he has allegedly done. amna: in the new york case, he is now violated the gag order a total of 15 times. jonathan: and counting. amna: is there any way for president trump to be reigned in on that front? david: i think his entire administration tried to do that for four years and it didn't work. jonathan: no. amna
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they focused on a key august 2015 meeting at trump tower with pecker& trump and cohen were pecker said he agreed to be the eyes and ears for the trump campaign, flagging any negative stories about trump to michael cohen the defense asked, did you ever are specifically use the term catch and kill in the meeting and pecker replied, no, i did not but then under redirect questioning from the prosecution, pecker reiterated the contents of the 2015 meeting, saying my understanding is those stories that come up, i would speak to michael cohen and tell them these are the stories that are going to be for sale that if we don't buy them somebody else will and then michael cohen would handle by them or trying to make sure that they don't ever get published unquote. so even if the term catch and kill wasn't used you wrote a book called catch and kill. is that not catching gill that is the definition of this colloquial term that has emerged around this catch and kill, which was a term that i and other journalists around this first started during from ami employees it was something of what's called a
they focused on a key august 2015 meeting at trump tower with pecker& trump and cohen were pecker said he agreed to be the eyes and ears for the trump campaign, flagging any negative stories about trump to michael cohen the defense asked, did you ever are specifically use the term catch and kill in the meeting and pecker replied, no, i did not but then under redirect questioning from the prosecution, pecker reiterated the contents of the 2015 meeting, saying my understanding is those...
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trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that he wanted nothing to do with the stormy daniels allegations and the defense made sure to spell out for the jurors that the karen mcdougal deal was reviewed by an election law attorney, jim. do any of these standout to you as important? bits of information for the defense of donald trump for the defense, i would say, you know, in hopefully you set this up an opening statement, but you need to just kinda pound home that were not fighting every single fact that moves in this case, we're not fighting whether or not i wouldn't be fighting the relationships doesn't matter. it's no more than the doorma
trump pecker acknowledged that negative press for trump's foes was generally good for business pecker said that if the false door man allegations had been true, he would have run the story after the election beauvais elicited from pecker that catch and kill. the term catch and kill buying a story in order to not run it so that it doesn't run anywhere else to protect mr. trump in this case, allegedly, tkatchenko was not discussed at the august 2015 meeting? the defense elicited from packer that...
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about david pecker is testimony about here comes the defendant himself watching, walking up to the to the cameras it is friday afternoon, 4:30 p.m. let's listen in thank you very much. this is eight days that we've all sitting in this courthouse this is biden indictment. it's an order to try and win an election. political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days you know. >> the economy is falling apart down. now you saying it very little growth, it's going to get worse. oil prices are going up. >> you have the college campuses all over, glows our country is going to hell. >> and we sit here day after, day after day, which is their plan. let's they think they might be able to eat, got an election. but i as the bulk numbers are very good for us, i just want to say that i've invited biden to debate a can do it anytime you want, including tonight. ready? do we find it up to the courthouse and he has tied up in the distillation hoping that through washington it's a well related attack on a political opponent. >> but here, i'm ready, willing, and able, and to be once i'll bu
about david pecker is testimony about here comes the defendant himself watching, walking up to the to the cameras it is friday afternoon, 4:30 p.m. let's listen in thank you very much. this is eight days that we've all sitting in this courthouse this is biden indictment. it's an order to try and win an election. political opponent nothing like this has ever happened eight days you know. >> the economy is falling apart down. now you saying it very little growth, it's going to get worse....
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let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was donald trump's pick not prosecutor's pick. we are seeing this process that defense lawyer goes through in cross-examination. as vaughn said, they can't argue the evidence when they are cross-examining the witness. they are collecting coins that they hope will turn out to be valuable in closing argument when they can go back and argue to the jury. you can't really believe these people, they are not credible. >> the other thing, catherine, is this gag order hearing. judge merchan set it for next thursday. that's another week before dealing with the
let's talk about the role of david pecker. his credibility, once it's evaluated by the jurors -- he was the first witness and the feature witness of the trial so far -- is to take some of the burden to of michael cohen, who is obviously -- has damage connected to him being convicted and having admitted to perjury in the past and served time for that. >> right. that's baked into the calculation with michael cohen. he is a difficult witness. the government can't hug him too hard. he was...
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pecker? >> mr. pecker was a solid first witness for the government on direct. but on cross, you sometimes learn a little bit more about a witness. the approach yesterday, as far as it got, was pretty soft. there wasn't any effort to, you know, go hard with this witness, and there may ultimately not be. this is a witness who says he considers the president a friend. trump has been remarkably restrained about talking about david pecker in public. it may be the cross-examination strategy will be to expose the limits of this witness' testimony. he tells a lot of the story about catch and kill to elect the president, but what he doesn't do, necessarily, is put trump in the room or know what was inside of trump's mind. so what we may see on cross-examination today is more of an effort to reign in the impact that his testimony has on the jury when it comes to donald trump and what he thought, knew, and did. >> we will be watching. former u.s. attorney joyce vance, thank you so much, as always. >>> susan glasser, getting back to your piece about "king donald's day at t
pecker? >> mr. pecker was a solid first witness for the government on direct. but on cross, you sometimes learn a little bit more about a witness. the approach yesterday, as far as it got, was pretty soft. there wasn't any effort to, you know, go hard with this witness, and there may ultimately not be. this is a witness who says he considers the president a friend. trump has been remarkably restrained about talking about david pecker in public. it may be the cross-examination strategy...
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>> there is a feeling that pecker is a strong witness. there is also a lot of apprehension about some of the witnesses. michael cohen is at is at some point going to have to takes the stand and prosecutors are looking at positioning that midway through next month. there is a mounting sense of anxiety, particularly over the course of this week about how noisy michael cohen is and how he is a loose cannon. i have had contact with him over the years and i think i understand and empathize with all of the reasons he is in a stressful position right now. to his credit, he did at a certain point this week after a lot of tense conversations between prosecutors and his legal team, finally amount i am going to stop going on tv and talking about this. i'm going to stop going on my podcast. he was just spouting vulgarities all of the time about trump. he had started a fundraising campaign. these were all things that made prosecutors nervous about positioning him as a meaningful witness in this case. >> as we await this testimony, this was the new yor
>> there is a feeling that pecker is a strong witness. there is also a lot of apprehension about some of the witnesses. michael cohen is at is at some point going to have to takes the stand and prosecutors are looking at positioning that midway through next month. there is a mounting sense of anxiety, particularly over the course of this week about how noisy michael cohen is and how he is a loose cannon. i have had contact with him over the years and i think i understand and empathize...
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and pecker said the campaign. and as to elaborate on that, because as to his personal opinion why did he think that, trump never spoke about ivanka, ever spoke about melania. he spoke about the campaign over and over again. and we heard an earful about the campaign, mostly through michael cohen constantly worrying about what the bosses thinking. when the transcript came, there are more than a dozen mentions of the boss. typically the boss will be very angry if you let karen mcdougal speak. the boss will be very angry if you release her from the nondisclosure deal. or this will please the boss. as to the general tenor of the things. and if trump's defense is that essentially he didn't know what was going on, he had more important things to worry about, having the jury hear the boss again and again and again, a dozen times, doesn't help his case. there was a fascinating moment when the jury saw after trump was elected, trump in the white house with david pecker , at trump's invitation. his dinner, trump put it. and
and pecker said the campaign. and as to elaborate on that, because as to his personal opinion why did he think that, trump never spoke about ivanka, ever spoke about melania. he spoke about the campaign over and over again. and we heard an earful about the campaign, mostly through michael cohen constantly worrying about what the bosses thinking. when the transcript came, there are more than a dozen mentions of the boss. typically the boss will be very angry if you let karen mcdougal speak. the...
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david pecker described how he'd catch-and-kill stories. one involved a former playboy model who claimed she had an affair with trump. also today prosecutors said trump violated a gag order four more times. that brings the total to 15. the judge has not yet ruled on the matter. the u.s. and 17 other nations have issued a joint appeal for hamas to release the roughly 130 hostages, still believed to be held by the group. the statement insisted that "the deal on the table to release the hostages would bring an immediate and prolonged ceasefire in gaza." hamas said it would not be influenced by the appeal. it comes a day after hamas released an undated video of american-israeli hostage, hersh goldberg-polin. today, the state department said the video underscores the urgency of reaching an agreement. >> it is high time that every hostage be released, there has been a deal on the table that hamas continues to move the goal posts for. and so we would stress the dire circumstance and the dire importance for this to be done and to be done so immedia
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i introduce pecker and pecker comes on stage and he's a showman. he's a real showman. and then it brings out arnold crowd goes while and then he says, are and we're going to the end. congratulations on being governor and all that we're so thrilled you're still going to be connected, but with the magazines because we know so much a party you and as this competition shows that your life but you won't. we're not he's not going to pay an arnold says, i'm going to donate my salary to charity so the los angeles times does a deep dive into this relationship because ami, even though they weren't publicly traded stock, they were publicly traded bonds. so they had to do the same kind of reporting. and they found that a shell company and traced it back. and let's schwarzenegger. so he gets the money and then became obviously a major bone of contention in this piece to show the arnold was trying to make money off of being governor. the same way trump made money being president. so there was getting the goods on that was important. >> and so some of this came up, i mean, jeremy, yo
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trump, do you still like pecker? >> reporter: and then there was stormy daniels, the porn star at the heart of this case. trump charged with falsifying business records to conceal a hush money payment so voters wouldn't learn of their alleged affair. in the final weeks of the campaign, pecker said he told trump's fixer michael cohen daniels was shopping her story. he says cohen told him to buy it, but pecker refused, telling cohen, "i am not going to get involved with a porn star. i am not a bank." ultimately, cohen himself paid daniels $130,000 to keep quiet. prosecutors say trump paid cohen back, falsely labeling it as legal expenses. trump has denied both affairs. his lawyers claim any effort to bury salacious stories was to protect trump's family. but pecker testifying that's not what he thought. "i thought it was for the campaign," he told the jury. "his family was never mentioned," only "the impact it would have upon the election." david, pecker showed trump no hostility, in fact, even though it has been five y
trump, do you still like pecker? >> reporter: and then there was stormy daniels, the porn star at the heart of this case. trump charged with falsifying business records to conceal a hush money payment so voters wouldn't learn of their alleged affair. in the final weeks of the campaign, pecker said he told trump's fixer michael cohen daniels was shopping her story. he says cohen told him to buy it, but pecker refused, telling cohen, "i am not going to get involved with a porn star. i...
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trump, do you still like pecker? >> reporter: and then there was stormy daniels, the porn star at the heart of this case. trump charged with falsifying business records to conceal a hush money payment so voters wouldn't learn of their alleged affair. in the final weeks of the campaign, pecker said he told trump's fixer michael cohen daniels was shopping her story. he says cohen told him to buy it, but pecker refused, telling cohen, "i am not going to get involved with a porn star.
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had no idea what pecker was talking about. during today's morning session, the manhattan's d.a. was office submitted four more examples where prosecutors argued trump broke the judge's gag order. membermerchan will vote whethert to hold him in contempt of court. >> i am glad i was here it was a very interesting day in a certain way. >> there will be a hearing about the gag order on wednesday of next week. in the last hour of court today, the defense began its cross-examination of proximate o testified that he alerted trump of negative stories concerning him dating back to 1998. pecker said he hasn't spoken to trump since the winter of 2019. but still considers him a friend and a mentor. gillian? >> gillian: all right, nate foy outside that courthouse all day in new york for us. thank you. well, confrontations between police and anti-israel protesters are igniting at college campuses across the nation. correspondent steve harrigan is at columbia university in new york city. my alma mater right now. hi, steve. >> steve: gillian,
had no idea what pecker was talking about. during today's morning session, the manhattan's d.a. was office submitted four more examples where prosecutors argued trump broke the judge's gag order. membermerchan will vote whethert to hold him in contempt of court. >> i am glad i was here it was a very interesting day in a certain way. >> there will be a hearing about the gag order on wednesday of next week. in the last hour of court today, the defense began its cross-examination of...
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former tabloid magnate david pecker is expected to be back on the stand. trump's defense team will continue their cross-examination. we're also still waiting on the judge's decision for a potential punishment for trump for allegedly violating the gag order that has been issued, telling him to not bad mouth or even discuss jurors, witnesses, and others tune in tonight to get up to speed on what played out in the case today, it's a special ac30 60 in which aac anderson cooper will go through the major moments in the hush money cover-up. the trial. that's tonight at eight only here on cnn until tomorrow, you can follow me on facebook, instagram, threads x, formerly known as twitter, on the tiktok, i take tapper you can follow the show on twitter at the leads semen. if you ever miss an episode of lead, you can
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pecker's in his 70s, et cetera. trump has his arms folded across his body watching pecker answer his attorneys questions specifically, he was poking holes in the memory of where trump was in august 2015 and you remember that's that consequential meeting between pecker and cohen and trump setting up the whole scheme and the defense here is clearly trying to say you're not quite remembering if trump was in town or not in town. just trying to bring in this cloud of suspicion around what he presented jury in the prosecution's time in pecker said earlier when presented with the fact that stormy daniels had this story out there, this adult film star in directors alleging that she had had an encounter with mr. trump. pecker testified, quote, i said, i don't want the national enquirer to be associated with porn star. >> he added that walmart was the main distributor of the magazine and it would be very bad for ami, the publishing company that produces the national enquirer, pecker also said, if anyone was going to buy it in
pecker's in his 70s, et cetera. trump has his arms folded across his body watching pecker answer his attorneys questions specifically, he was poking holes in the memory of where trump was in august 2015 and you remember that's that consequential meeting between pecker and cohen and trump setting up the whole scheme and the defense here is clearly trying to say you're not quite remembering if trump was in town or not in town. just trying to bring in this cloud of suspicion around what he...
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they've been so good, the pecker headlines. it's been amusing. but pecker back today. lisa rubin, the interesting point i think danny was building on, and your thoughts on what you expect today, you saw in the pecker testimony him really laying out plans for certain stories. even saying about a story that turned out not to be that -- not to really have legs was about the doorman and some baby, illegitimate child, and how he'd wait until after the election to put that story out if he could get more on it. showing really that they were framing everything they were doing around the election. >> he said it had to do with the election. it wasn't to protect trump personally, like they were saying. everything was timed for the election. >> exactly. lisa, with that in mind, what are you looking for today? >> i'm looking for more evidence, mika, of direct conversations between pecker and trump. he started in august 2015 at trump tower. he ended the other day starting to talk about a phone call they had in june 2016 when trump called him up to say michael cohen had informed him
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say about pecker's testimony. and that testimony is going to include all the details about the hush money payment to stormy daniels. pecker will be asked about it in detail when he's back in court tomorrow morning. >> and remember, pecker was the one who helped broker the deal between michael cohen, trump's fixer, and former attorney and stormy daniels. >> and this whole deal was about keeping daniel's quiet about an alleged affair with trump. here is the secret audio tape between michael cohen and trump himself. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all the info regarding friend david so that i'm going to do that right away. i've actually come up and i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up with where we are funding that yes and it's all the stuff i mean trump on tape. so what do we got to pay for this one 50. >> and our friend david, that they're referring to is david pecker. and tomorrow that friend because now i put that in quotes. apparently they're not speaking will b
say about pecker's testimony. and that testimony is going to include all the details about the hush money payment to stormy daniels. pecker will be asked about it in detail when he's back in court tomorrow morning. >> and remember, pecker was the one who helped broker the deal between michael cohen, trump's fixer, and former attorney and stormy daniels. >> and this whole deal was about keeping daniel's quiet about an alleged affair with trump. here is the secret audio tape between...
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for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate in business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or an awfully allegedly is what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not we were not able to confirm that story. in fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. it was very clear that what they were doing was about the election and at that point when you're paying, wasn't to protect melania trump. it was about the right if it was, then he wouldn't have released it after the election. he was doing these catch and kills fine. but when it was about the election, those when you're paying people, it's an in-kind donation and you have to declare that at a dangerous point, there and asked him whether y
for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate in business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or an awfully allegedly is what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not we were not able to...
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we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being eyes and the ears of a campaign and how they were going to find the stories that were negative about trump are salacious about trump, bury them and promote stories that were positive ahead of that campaign. they went into detail about that trump tower doorman who had a story about a woman who claimed that she fathered a child or he fathered a child of her and then before court wrapped up and david pecker was done for the day they got into the details of but another playboy playmate, karen mcdougal, who of course alleged affair a wi
we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being...
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as the star witness, everybody says michael cohen has, but pecker in terms of what he's revealing is pretty important. >> i agree. and i think he's i know he's going to have better credibility that michael cohen and here's a case in point. the southern district of new york spent a lot of time with both of them. the southern district of new york made a decision back to three years ago to give david pecker a non-profit because they believed him they did not make that decision. and they said to the contrary to michael cohen sentencing judge, he was not fully forth. >> how do you think that defense is going to handle david pecker? >> i think they're going to try a couple of things. one, they will attack that very non-profit, non-prosecution agreement that we've been talking about. they're going to argue this is unfair. why are you walking free when donald trump, they're trying to lock up donald trump and they're going to argue, you are trying to please the prosecutors. they gave you a sweetheart deal. you're on the palm of their hand. i think the other thing they're going to do and i don
as the star witness, everybody says michael cohen has, but pecker in terms of what he's revealing is pretty important. >> i agree. and i think he's i know he's going to have better credibility that michael cohen and here's a case in point. the southern district of new york spent a lot of time with both of them. the southern district of new york made a decision back to three years ago to give david pecker a non-profit because they believed him they did not make that decision. and they said...
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. >> david pecker. the first witness in the new york case. >> all right, good morning, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." it's wednesday, april 24th. along with willie and me we have a member of the "the new york times" editorial board maya and sam stein. our top story has to do with pecker. >> i think you're enjoying saying his name. testimony in donald trump's hush money criminal trial is scheduled to resume tomorrow after several key developments in court yesterday. first, the judge held a hearing at the start of tuesday's proceedings on whether the former president had violated his gag order. prosecutors have asked the judge to fine him $1,000 for each violation. trump's attorney said he hasn't violated the order. he was, quote, being careful about complying with the order. but the judge expressed extreme frustration with that argument, telling his attorney saying, quote, losing all credibility with the court. any violation of the gag order in articles he repost to social media is unintentional. >
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and just once that pecker talks about that, pecker talks about for a campaign, why this issue of women could be important. steinglass asked, can you explain to the jury how the topic of women in particular came up pecker says well, in a presidential campaign, i was the person that thought there would be a number, a lot of women come out to try to sell their stories because mr. trump was well-known and the most eligible bachelor and date of the most beautiful women. and it was clear based on my past experience that when someone is running for public office like this, it is very common for these women to call up a magazine like the national enquirer and try to tell their stories and this was before this was before the access hollywood tape. >> so the actual, the importance of the access hollywood tape in this is that it sort of the the drumbeat got much louder about indiscretions, changed everything. because remember stormy daniels was shopping around her story and was essentially offering to sell it. >> and they argued that the price was too high and said no, that they weren't intereste
and just once that pecker talks about that, pecker talks about for a campaign, why this issue of women could be important. steinglass asked, can you explain to the jury how the topic of women in particular came up pecker says well, in a presidential campaign, i was the person that thought there would be a number, a lot of women come out to try to sell their stories because mr. trump was well-known and the most eligible bachelor and date of the most beautiful women. and it was clear based on my...
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pecker is going to be talked to. they're going to say, you know, you're just supporting the candidate you wanted. that's what magazines do, right? >> kaitlan, how do you think it did on this? i'm not sure that's what all magazines do not way if people would like to have a word, but i think it's watching all of play out. it's fascinating to see david pecker sitting there in testify in this way, and they're laying the groundwork to get to something bigger obviously, with all of this and with his relationship with trump. but he met marlow. he met trump visited mar-a-lago, met him in the 80s, worked with them in the 90s, worked with him when the apprentice became a show, trump would send him apprentice ratings and they would publish them in the national enquirer. and david pecker was kinda saying it was this mutually beneficial relationship between the two of them, this two-way street. and then you he was helping promote trump. and then when he got closer to the election, he was helping bury negative stories which he had
pecker is going to be talked to. they're going to say, you know, you're just supporting the candidate you wanted. that's what magazines do, right? >> kaitlan, how do you think it did on this? i'm not sure that's what all magazines do not way if people would like to have a word, but i think it's watching all of play out. it's fascinating to see david pecker sitting there in testify in this way, and they're laying the groundwork to get to something bigger obviously, with all of this and...
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pecker, that one point, mr. trump said in addition to the campaign millennials need to hear about this. it's only need is for that m&ms. yes, he was concerned about melannie. he was concerned about baron because it's gotta be that the expenditure is 100% for him to become president of the united states. i'm sorry, that's wrong. that's just not the law. it does not have to be 100%. i see jeffries agreeing with me. it does not have to be 100% campaign related. those campaigns should be both. >> i wanted to predict the campaign, but also i was worried about my wife. yes. >> the campaign has to be a substantial factor, does not but three, 100% and nobody would ever be able to prove that my view of david pecker today as he was a rock solid start for the prosecutors. you're not going to win your case that the first witness, it's a mistake to try to do that. i agree that if the case ended right now, we'd have no crime made out. >> so he's sort of setting the table exactly what i think he did. >> that was really the int
pecker, that one point, mr. trump said in addition to the campaign millennials need to hear about this. it's only need is for that m&ms. yes, he was concerned about melannie. he was concerned about baron because it's gotta be that the expenditure is 100% for him to become president of the united states. i'm sorry, that's wrong. that's just not the law. it does not have to be 100%. i see jeffries agreeing with me. it does not have to be 100% campaign related. those campaigns should be both....
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david-pecker, i would describe mr. trump is very knowledgeable. i would describe him as a very detail-oriented, i would describe him as an almost, as a micromanager from what i saw, that he looked at every all of the aspects of whatever the issue was. neal katyal , andrew weissman, adam klasfeld, back with us. he's not a micromanager. he doesn't know who is putting what memos on what checks. >> yes, this is the standard defense when you have a leader on trial into the mechanics of the crime, it is a defense in an organized crime case, i was not on the scene, it's the defense, saying i don't know what the paperwork was, it is a standard argument that is made. of course it doesn't help that this is a small family business. we are not talking about enron, or an organized crime family, although there are some analogies that could be made. it's small. he couldn't possibly know will be a tough one given how small the group is, but testimony from a long-time friend who is saying positive things about him, that he is micromanager, is to get evidence for y
david-pecker, i would describe mr. trump is very knowledgeable. i would describe him as a very detail-oriented, i would describe him as an almost, as a micromanager from what i saw, that he looked at every all of the aspects of whatever the issue was. neal katyal , andrew weissman, adam klasfeld, back with us. he's not a micromanager. he doesn't know who is putting what memos on what checks. >> yes, this is the standard defense when you have a leader on trial into the mechanics of the...
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pecker's testimony resumes thursday. trump today complaining he's stuck in court, while president biden is out on the campaign trail. >> they're keeping me in a courtroom that's freezing, by the way. he's out campaigning, and i'm here in a courtroom, sitting here, giving -- sitting up as straight as i can all day long, because, you know what? it's a very unfair situation. >> reporter: before today's testimony, prosecutors accused trump of repeatedly violating the judge's gag order, attacking witnesses, even potential jurors. and they said it's posing a very real threat to the trial. the defense insisted trump is complying but the judge interjected "you're losing credibi credibility." no immediate ruling from the judge but prosecutors said, david, it's almost as if trump is daring the judge to hold him in contempt and throw him in jail. and tonight, sources tell abc news the secret service is preparing for that possibility. david? >> david: aaron katersky leading us off here tonight. aaron, thank you. >>> we turn now to t
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so you were pecker's communications chief at ami, right? so you worked with them, you saw him, you know how all of this worked in intimate detail? so pass her testified today, he told trump he'd be as eyes and ears during the campaign. so as you're seeing the transcript of exactly what he said today, what stood out to you as you heard pecker describe the way catch and kill worked, which was pretty amazing. >> so until now, it's only been speculated how it really worked. >> but clear really outlined it under oath today, how it will play it out and the benefit to him. obviously, it was incurring goodwill with trump and having that access to him and vice-versa burring bad stories about trump highlighting his good stuff and bearing his enemies. so it was like a mutual in their minds, a win-win, i can help you. you helped me and that's pretty much how pecker operated all along. then why the inquirer has the reputation that it has. >> so stay seat to this. i know there was a key testimony for you about how trump to this agreement, this catch and
so you were pecker's communications chief at ami, right? so you worked with them, you saw him, you know how all of this worked in intimate detail? so pass her testified today, he told trump he'd be as eyes and ears during the campaign. so as you're seeing the transcript of exactly what he said today, what stood out to you as you heard pecker describe the way catch and kill worked, which was pretty amazing. >> so until now, it's only been speculated how it really worked. >> but clear...
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pecker's testimony resumes thursday. trump today complaining he's stuck in court while president biden is out on the campaign trail. >> they're keeping me in a courtroom, that's freezing, by the way, he's out campaigning and i'm here in a courtroom sitting here, sitting up as straight as i can all day long, because you know what, it's a very unfair situation. >> reporter: before today's testimony, prosecutors accused trump of repeatedly violating the judge's gag order, attacking witnesses, even potential jurors. defense attorneys insisted trump is complying, but the judge interjected, you're losing credibility. there was no immediate ruling from the judge, but david, prosecutors said it's almost as if trump is trying to force the judge to throw him in jail, and tonight, sources told abc news the secret service is actually
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. >> former american media ceo and president david pecker testified today. he made a secret agreement to benefit former president donald trump's 2016 campaign. pecker testified, quote: i would be the eyes and ears, working with trump's former lawyer michael cohen to suppress negative stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. including former president bill clinton and former secretary of state then presidential candidate hillary clinton. trump says this trial is benefiting his current political adversary, president joe biden. >> it's very unfair situation. we're locked up in a courtroom and this guy is out there campaigning. >> pecker testified he and cohen identified and suppressed stories from former playboy model karen macdougall and a false story from a trump tower door man. today judge juan merchan reserved his decision about whether or not trump violated the court's gag order by sharing articles online about witnesses in the case. >> names mentioned in the article. and i end up in violation of a gag order. i think it's a dis
. >> former american media ceo and president david pecker testified today. he made a secret agreement to benefit former president donald trump's 2016 campaign. pecker testified, quote: i would be the eyes and ears, working with trump's former lawyer michael cohen to suppress negative stories about trump and publish negative stories about his opponents. including former president bill clinton and former secretary of state then presidential candidate hillary clinton. trump says this trial...